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Originally posted by Azadok
So let's get to the real truth for all you people that have bought into islams lie , the Koran the Islam is allegedly compelled to follow is VERY VERY CLEAR ON WHO THE LAND BELONGS TO , THAT IS ISRAEL.
The verses in the Koran that pore this is 5:20 and 5:21 amongst others .
S why not ask the question lets. Relocat all the ARABS
March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese.
Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.
In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here’s what he said:
“Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by zabarjad
What right did Britain have to give you somebody elses country?
What right did Hadrian Caesar have giving Israel to the Arabs and renaming it Syriac Palestina? That land didn;t belong to him, he just claimed it by force of might of the Roman Empire.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by rigel4
If you love the Arabs so much how about they move right in to your neighborhood?
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese.
Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism."[/x]
Zahir Muhsein, PLO executive committeeedit on 8-3-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by rigel4
Isn't about time for the sake of world peace,and the lives of millions in the Middle East, that Israel is relocated to somewhere a lot less hostile and volatile. Egypt, Iran, Hamas, Hezzbollah, Syria, the list is endless, the magnitude of the possable computations that would lead to Israel being destroyed along with other countries is mind bogglingly complex. Today there seems no way out, sooner or later, the inevitable will come to pass
Originally posted by DerekJR321
Ah yes.. there it is. Anyone who mentions the word "Israel" or "Jew" in a negative light, and immediately "Anti-Semite" and "Racist" come right along with it. Sigh....
Let's get some facts straight OK? A few rich guys in Britain made a mandate and said "Hey, we control Palestine, we'll put the Jews there." One of those rich guys was Lord Rothschild. Ahem....
Anyway.. the Jews began immigrating to Palestine. Once there they began to create their own rules, and government. In 1933 the Nazi's sent over 50,000 Jews along with $100 million to Palestine (Ha'avara Agreement). They (Jews) began to assert rights to the West Wall, which pissed off the Arabs and caused the 1929 riots. But the British didn't care. They kept pouring money and time into the Zionist movement. This further pissed off the Arabs who demanded an end to the British Mandate. This in turn caused the British to form the Peel Commission which formed an "exclusive" Jewish zone in Galilee and along the west coast. This action forced the removal of over 200,000 Arabs from their homes.
After WW2, the UN formed UNSCOP (United Nations Special Committee on Palestine). The UN basically split Palestine in two. One part for Jews, one part for Arabs, with the UN controlling Jerusalem. In 1948, once the last of the British forces left, "The Jewish Agency" declared the Jewish State. Something that today would have to be passed through the UN and voted on by other member nations. But they just simply said "Hey we're a nation now". The Arab league refused to accept this partition plan by the UN. Pretty much because it was decided without them. So the Arab nations attacked. And we all know how that went. After the war in 1948, with Israel winning, they began the land grab. And it continues to this day.
So the moral of my story? There is no "Israel". The modern day "Israel" was formed by a few rich Brit's who decided to give the Zionists some land. And once they got that land, they exerted whatever rights they wanted. To hell with who was already there. The lands of Palestine are now reduced to the prison camp known as the Gaza strip.
So that is how Israel came to be. No "God" came down and gave the Zionists a deed to the property. It wasn't "chosen" for them. No magical book gave them divine rights to the land. The land was taken by the British, and handed to the Zionists.
Now if you ask me, should the Jews leave Israel? I will say no. They fought and they won. So it's theirs now. However, I think that Israel should declare its borders once and for all and STOP their land grabs and aggression towards Palestinians. Just as "Israel" has a right to exist, so does Palestine.
Originally posted by openyourmind1262
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
Ask the people in around Israel about your view. Do yourself a favor and read up on the USS Liberty. Israel let's other fight their battles. They stir the pot. get the shat to stinking, then tell others how odorous it is and why do'nt YOU ALL take care of that. AS stated before. MUCK EM.