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What does the end of days have to do with the land the the Koran says belongs to Israel , the Arabs themselves have been lying to the world about this . There Koran is the final authority on all matters both personal , relic us and business . The Arabs know they are not suppose to be on that land according to their holy book and ignore it against Mohammed's teachings and Gods will . If they deny this they are worse than infidel dogs and should be beheaded for insulting Islam and Mohammed.
Even the bible teaches that the Jews would be scattered because of their sins.
So even from a jewish or a christian point of view, the jews dont deserve to be there.
It actually says they will be scattered TWICE. It also says they will be returned to the land TWICE.
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by daaskapital
You did steal their land, through armed aggression.
The armed aggression was enacted towards us. I suppose that in your opinion we should have just stood there and take it, while the Arabs are waging genocide and killing us all.
Well, we thought otherwise and we kept defending our tiny villages until enough was enough and we took the offense instead of defense.
Call it whatever you wish, that is the truth and there's nothing you can do about it.
it is palestinian land, not Jewish. Just because your Holy Book says so, doesn't make it true.
Actually, their holy book says so as well. Doesn't make it true, but you know what does?
The UN recognition of Israel.
...Now what?edit on 7-3-2012 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Clunky
I guess you are conveniently forgetting who started the conflict in 1948.
From 1920 to 1948 the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Mohammad Amin al-Husayni became the leader of the Palestinian Arab movement and played a key role in inciting religious riots against the Jewish population in Palestine. The Mufti stirred religious passions against Jews by alleging that Jews were seeking to rebuild the Jewish Temple on the site of the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa Mosque. He tried to gain control of the Western Wall (the Kotel), saying that it was sacred to the Muslims.
Originally posted by rigel4
With current developments spiraling out of control, and as usual Israel is the center
of the rhetoric, my question is: do you the members still think that Israel
would be better off in the Middle East or moving to a new location?
Originally posted by VelvetSplash
The fact that you're suggesting a relocation of Israel shows you have no understanding of it as a state in the first place.
Putting aside the fact that theocractic or religious states are ridiculous in and of themselves - you could move Israel to the moon, it wouldn't make a shread of difference - the entire religion is based around that scrub of land along the mediterranean - taking that specific piece of land out of the equation is like dropping the idea of a virgin birth and ressurrection from Christianity.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why do jews need their own country?
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by milominderbinder
So...does that mean you are going to give Arkansas back to the Choctaw and Natchez?
I am just one man, i have no say in that matter. I'm decendant of the cherokee nation, i'm here because we were forced into this area during the trail of tears and then when white people took the reservation they gave to us here we were moved to the rest of the tribe in Oklahoma, those who weren't allowed to stay in the south east.
Should everyones land be given back to them? Yes it should, but it will not happen so your arguement is weak. This is a circular arguement and will go nowhere.
Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by Azadok
Israel is breaking international laws by running the biggest concentration camp ever. Palestinians are subjected to abuse by Israel every day.
Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
What a pathetic and assanine OP!
How can anyone propose that we relocate 8 Million people? It is just your dream and it will never happen and its a pointless debate.
All I see on these regular threads are a place for 'Jew Hatred' and I just wish ATS would not entertain this ignorant scum who make comments like 'Israel should be relocated to the bottom of the ocean or Antartica' etc.
I was born a Jew, although I no longer believe in religion (any) however, I do realise that Buddhism has a lot of common sense and truth within.
Why can't people just hope that Jews and Muslims learn to live with each other and learn respect for themselves and those that are different.
People hoping for the destruction of Israel are as much of a problem as the leaders of Israel, Hamas, PLO and most Arab nations. We are all HUMAN and we do not have to make war so that some religious fanatics who believe in prophesies written hundred of years ago can be proved right!
Both peoples truly want peace in their hearts and it is the leaders who instigate the hatred on both sides, why? Because its profitable for them to do so! It's all about the money on both sides! What happened to all the wealth that Yasser Arafat amassed that was stolen from his people??? How much is Abbas worth now? The Arab nations that send vast wealth to the Palestinians cause should hold the leaders accountable. The funds sent should be used to create jobs, build up the infrastructure and build their country! When Palestinians have jobs and a good standard of living, they won't be thinking about fighting and blowing themselves up to get to a better place, will they?
Both sides need to engage and use the common sense they were born with and stupid OP's like this hopefully will cease to exist!edit on 8/3/12 by Hongkongphooey because: Typo erroredit on 8/3/12 by Hongkongphooey because: typo