$1B of TSA Nude Body Scanners Made Worthless By Blog

They should save the billions for scanners and just put a few cameras in the bathrooms. That's where the Terrorists probably go to hide all their weapons under their clothes anyway and video surveillance cameras are pretty cheap. Most people don't seem to mind being seen "nude," so what's the big problem?

reply to post by TrulyColorBlind


jackass

Good find! S+F

I am shocked if it is truly that easy to get metal thru the x-ray. It's as if they want it to be easy to get contraband onboard, I mean how could they overlook something this big (and expensive)?

I could speculate, but I won't.

A hahahahahaha!
I expected some hi tech jammer and then this guy with microphone started talking and ...
Idiots... Thank you for lol!

Pow! Right in the kisser, TSA!

Cheers!

Time to take away these Nanny State machines paid with our tax dollars to make these criminals richer and give us back our freedom.

reply to post by samkent


All I have to say to you is, "Bollocks"

I felt perfectly safe well before they instituted these Gestapo like Nanny State Machines which were installed in airports around the country, 9 years AFTER 911.

Even so, if a terrorist bombed one plane a year, I would still feel quite safe, because the odds of me being on a plane with a terrorist or 9 million to 1.

There are 9 million commercial flights a year.

I have a better chance of dying on a car crash than I do an airplane.

These TSA machines are not about protecting us from terrorist, but rather, it is all about slowly instituting gestapo like tactics across the country, where in this case, these machines are spreading, outside of airports

which means BIG $$$ for the criminal enterprises that run it, off my dime!

This is extremely legit. Some are saying that if everyone refuses the scanners, they will have to revert to the metal detectors. That is just false. You must understand that you being able to fly is NOT a right, but a privilege. If you do not want to go through the scanners, then they can simply not allow you to get on an airplane.

The day that the Federal government holds a monopoly on the air transportation business is the day that we can, by right, force them to change it. But with a private company, nope. The TSA however IS a Federal organization. SO, what we need is pressure FROM the airlines themselves. THEY are the ones who should be worrying about the security in my opinion.

He is absolutely right that these scanners are an epic fail, and so is the TSA. But then again, I advocate a mild form of socialism, so you don't have to listen to me. NOT the socialism you have seen in the past though, lol...None of this proletariat suffrage and neglect to appease the owners of the means of production as we see now in modern republican democracies, nor a "people's republic" where the workers have little to no rights. Just clearing that up so no one thinks I'm absolutely insane.

Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
You must understand that you being able to fly is NOT a right, but a privilege. If you do not want to go through the scanners, then they can simply not allow you to get on an airplane.

Quit spreading lies and falsehoods. Seems the same lies have been spread about traveling in an automobile, which as it turns out is also a right.

We have a right to travel using the usual conveyances of the day - which air travel is today.



Collection of Legal Citations supporting the Right to Travel

"Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct." II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135

"The right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, is a common right which he has under the right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right, in so doing, to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day, and under the existing modes of travel, includes the right to drive a horse drawn carriage or wagon thereon or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purpose of life and business."

Thompson vs. Smith, supra.;
Teche Lines vs. Danforth, Miss., 12 S.2d 784

if u dont like it travel other ways boat/train/car/walk .. ... its for ure safety .. i think its a joke aww privacy .. do u react the same way when u goto have a xray .. ohh the inhumanity they can see my bones ,... id like to do a study on the people who have a problem with it, how many are body conscious? anyway like i said u dont like it dont get a plane . ....

I flew yesterday and refused the body scanner. I got a lot of strange looks from other passengers and they sent the biggest meanest black man over to search me. There was an Air Force Sr. Airman behind me who bypassed the scanner and went thru the Metal detector instead as my wife opted for the Scanner. When I questioned the guy searching me why the Air Force gentlemen got to use the metal detector and I did not he said because he is military in uniform and they are exempt, as are pilots, crew members and TSA... I then said I guess serving for 6 years was all in vain. When the guy searching me asked why I did not want to use the scanner I told him I have had enough radiation this year and did not need to add more to it as I was flying during a solar storm. I also told him while it might be safe for the casual user those people standing around that death trap 8 hours a day may have second thoughts in a few year when they start coming down with cancer from unknown origins.

Fine got it!!! But, it still works because they are paying me my salary!!!

I wouldn't be surprise if he was already facing criminal charges or being considered a terrorist for making such a revealing video! Such things can not be seen by the public! It cannot be allowed!

Originally posted by jacobe001
reply to post by samkent

 

All I have to say to you is, "Bollocks"

I felt perfectly safe well before they instituted these Gestapo like Nanny State Machines which were installed in airports around the country, 9 years AFTER 911.

Even so, if a terrorist bombed one plane a year, I would still feel quite safe, because the odds of me being on a plane with a terrorist or 9 million to 1.

Dude, the chances of 9 million to one are due in large part to exactly the fact that the terrorists know that there is an extensive interdiction effort. What you are saying is equivalent to "stop all vaccination of any kind because nobody I know died of infectious decease". Duh.

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Can't they just ask people to make a 360 degree turn with the arms out, or are they not real time?

Originally posted by modeselektor
reply to post by InsideYourMind

 

Can't they just ask people to make a 360 degree turn with the arms out, or are they not real time?

It would seem there is a small processing time, but even so, you can make a few shots from different angles. And by the way, I'm not convinced this is not done already. The "classic" picture they show may be just one projection they look at first.

reply to post by GrinchNoMore

Not one bomb going off on a plane EVER from any terrorist other than inside jobs ,, screams too me that NOONE thinks it is a good idea to pull off.

Oh how we forget our history.

1970 Four planes bound for NYC were hijacked and subsequently blown up. (insert Twilight Zone music)
Here

Are you thinking deja vu yet?

There's more

How about Pan Am 103 over Lockerby?
Here
It was December 23,1988
Start up the Twilight zone music again.
Guess what happened on December 22 a few years later??
That's right the idiot shoe bomber Richard Reid.
Here

But no one blows up planes do they?

Uhh yea they do. And yea it does work.
Better bone up on your history before you make hasty decisions.

reply to post by samkent


can you please explain the ratio of bombings to total flights?
can you please explain how body scanners are better at finding explosives than a chemical detector?

and then can you please explain how you can justify using these things regardless of the fact they have not been properly tested to determine long term effects?

thanks if you respond

Originally posted by samkent

1970 Four planes bound for NYC were hijacked and subsequently blown up. (insert Twilight Zone music)

How about Pan Am 103 over Lockerby?
It was December 23,1988

Your data proves how unlikely such occurrences are. 1970 is nearly a half a century ago, wow a nearly perfect record in any other industry.

911 could never occur again with or without the TSA scanners, because the cockpit cannot be breached. Anyone who believes otherwise is a government shill or just an ignorant sheeple.

Ok lets all take a step back in time to see what caused the vaunted TSA to insist on body scaners.

It was the underware bomber.

Now lets look at the FACTS on his case that is used for justification for this non-sence.

1. He flew from a known hostile/hot bed of terrorist activity.
2. Bought a ticket WITH CASH ONE WAY
3. Going to chicago without a coat in winter
4. No luggage checked in.

This set off enough red flags (even under the old system) to cause a security officers head to explode.

But the last item is in a whole another case of SUPER RED FLAG.

HIS OWN FATHER TURNED HIM INTO US ATHORITIES AS A RADICAL "NUT JOB" .

The first 4 are stupidity/failure to follow proceedure in a class that normally is criminal gross negligance (at the very least).

The last one alone trumps the other 4 together by a magnitue of 10.

Together it makes pearl harbor and 9/11 look like someone leaving the keys in their car by comparison.

Then it came out in main stream media these body scanners would not have detected this attack anyway.

Lastly the guy who made these things mandatory has a controlling interest in the company THAT MAKES THEM.

So given all the failures of following BASIC SECURITY PROCEEDURES how again do these things help us?