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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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that one i do know is a lie women arent allowed in the lodges
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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by gdmfs2200
should i join them just to be a spy


That's about the worst reason to join I've ever heard. The reason to join the Masons at all is to become a better person, one with good character. Your statement reveals the exact opposite.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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My apologies. I will be sure to quote the post next time to be sure it's not edited out to completely change it's context. have a nice day.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Lulzaroonie
Are women allowed in Masonic Lodges? Cuz a friend of mine just told me she's been to two of them, and she is a known liar


A woman can be "in" a lodge, just not in an "open" lodge or during a meeting. We have many public events, and women are welcome, and we have many wives, mothers, and daughters that help out around the Lodgees.

For "regular" Masonry, such as Free and Accepted Masons we do not allow women to become members of the fraternity, but there are other "irregular" or "clandestine" forms of Masonry that do allow women, so your cousin isn't necessarily a liar in this regard. She may have visited a Lodge, and she may even be a member of an irregular lodge.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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I can't testify as to whether your friend is lying or not, but women are allowed to take a tour of any Lodge room while not at work. Many Lodges have open house receptions so that the public can satisfy their curiosity and learn about Freemasonry. If you would like to visit a Lodge to see the interior, again call the Grand Lodge and make arrangements.

Now if you are asking if women can petition to JOIN a Masonic Lodge, the answer is tricky. There are Masonic Obediences such as mine that do allow women members, they aren't recognized by mainstream Freemasonry under the UGLE and the US state GLs but this is of little consequence.

Edited to add:

There are Obediences that my Order is in Amity with that are exclusively male or exclusively female, the Amity agreement allows for visitation between them but usually the Work must be called off in order for the Brother or Sister to be received by the Lodge.

These Orders all have a presence throughout the world but are more common in Europe.
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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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Thanks for the answers. It's never anyone closely related to her that in involved in these fantastic tales. I shall quietly reserve judgement on her statement regarding this I think, but I appreciate your time answering my question, thanks



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Freemasonry also doesn't own the rights to Freemasonry. There are a lot of "clandestine" lodges, some of which do allow women to join as actual members. They call themselves Freemasons and use a close approximate of our degrees, they are just not considered "regular" (that is "real" Masons don't consider them "real" Masons)

But seeing as your friend is a known liar I doubt that is the case.

Liars suck by the way, why be friends with a known liar lol?



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Liars suck by the way, why be friends with a known liar lol?


Who else are you going to beat the crap out of when you get tabbed for Real Housewives of Above Top Secret?



posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
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Liars suck by the way, why be friends with a known liar lol?


You know how sometimes it's easier to just nod and play along than argue every little thing, just for a quiet life? That.

She's an outer circle friend if that makes sense. We don't go out of our ways to see or talk to each other, but if we're in the same place, we'll have a chat kinda thing.



posted on Mar, 9 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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Join~



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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I don't think you should join for the sake of your grandfather. If your interested and think it would suit you and your lifestyle, then why not.

Just wanted to ask the masons here about the issue of morals. It's said here one must be of high moral standing to join, and I have heard the most important thing is to not do harm to others. I have also heard, some things that are not considered immoral by many (such as a vibrant sex life or recreational drug use) is frouned apon. Can anyone explain how the standards for new members are set? Do the standards change to suit the society?

Thx



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:17 PM
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It's funny but Masons are forbidden from asking someone to join,,,you have to approach them,,,ever seen the bumper stickers"2 B 1 ask 1" with the Masonic symbol?
They stick
Pretty close to that stuff



posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 12:37 AM
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I forgot about this thread.

Edited you say? I'm not going to lie, I'm an edit whore, my post count will verify, typos and everything else in between, but come on...


Never once did I say in this thread that I was a Freemason. I clearly stated that my close friends are Freemasons and how they became Mason's was relevant to this thread. I get your a Freemason and that you're really protective of the order, especially from ignorant non Mason's on a conspiracy site, and because you're a Mason you clearly know more about Freemasons than me and the other non Freemasons. In that respect, you clearly win. /golfclap

Oh joy, an edit! I did some back reading and I see where it all went wrong. You are responding to a post that I was responding too, a post whose poster is a mason, who I didn't know was a mason, and you got upset because you viewed as a non mason telling a mason about mason things.

Here's my post and I stand by what I said, what mattered to you was that I was telling it to a mason, so to you it almost appears as if I am talking down to him, right? It wasn't until I noticed his avatar was masonic like & that I realized he's probably a mason.



Either way, whatever your point is, I wanted to bring that up. Not all Masons that join the club aspire to educate themselves in the ways of the Masons through study. My best friend, & his brother, who both became Mason's are the type that rarely go to meetings and definitely don't study Freemasonry, while their Uncle was the complete opposite.


Btw, there is no such thing as a high level mason? I mean, there are levels, right? I'm sure you guys don't address others as high level masons or view each other differently because of said levels, but you can understand how us non masons would, right? Anyway, my friends father is a 33 degree, last I asked, and to me that's high level. Now do I think 33 degree masons are some elite group or something? No, but I do recognize to get to the next degree you have to work for it, and my 3 friends aren't working for it but their uncle/father is.
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posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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I as well, believe it or not, I was haveing breakfast at a Country Buffet, and I saw a older man with a Free mason Jacket. Believe me when I tell you it was the real Mccoy. Now I know what you may be thinking, (A JACKET), like a Bikers Jacket or something??? Anyway, I decided to go over after getting another Glass of crappy O.J. and ask him about his jacket. He was very poliet but, freakingly DEAD SERIOUS, and I could tell, very quickly if he didnt take me serious he would have told me to F .. Off.So after a few sentences of dialog, I asked him how I could join, he responded, in a way that I thought I was just buying a car, at that point I decided to take my leave... True story.



posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Swills
Btw, there is no such thing as a high level mason? I mean, there are levels, right?
Nope.


I'm sure you guys don't address others as high level masons or view each other differently because of said levels, but you can understand how us non masons would, right? Anyway, my friends father is a 33 degree, last I asked, and to me that's high level. Now do I think 33 degree masons are some elite group or something? No, but I do recognize to get to the next degree you have to work for it, and my 3 friends aren't working for it but their uncle/father is.
33° is an honor given by the Scottish Rite to some of its members who have served Masonry for at least 8 years. It doesn't give them any extra power or privilege over any other Mason. There is no secret knowledge imparted in the 33° initiation ritual that isn't known to any other Mason (or any other person who's studied philosophy or theology for that matter…)



posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Masonic jackets are not uncommon, biker or otherwise.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by boncho


...should i join them just to be a spy and post my findings here so please let me know what i should do


Yes, join them.

But the only way you can be admitted into the secret order of freemasons (not the normal cover) is by pooping on the floor after they give you your regalia.

It's an old secret that only a few people know about. Unless your grandpa is in the secret, secret section of the freemasons he might not know about it either.

It's a one time shot though, you have to poop on the floor in front of everyone as soon as you get your threads.

If you wait a minute too long, you will never make it to the top.


Haha that is really strange. What is stranger is that I have heard about that before.
But it can not be that strange since everyone will see it? Or will the people not in on it, just think their new brother is having some stomach problems.
No matter what it is not that secret anymore since you said it on the interwebz
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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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I don not recall what your original post said, but I remember you changed the entire context of the post and it made my response look completely different. As I said, now that I know, I will be sure to quote anything I am responding to so there will be no confusion.

A 33rd degree Scottish Rite mason is a "high degree" mason. There is no higher degree in the Scottish Rite. But having obtained that degree doesn't make you anything more than a very dedicated person. You don't get any extra money, you don't get free dinners at fancy restaurants, and you don't get to shake hands with Obama or anything. You get to wear a white hat, and you are usually asked to help out with lots of things since you most likely have a lot of experience with charity stuff. Among masons, a 33rd degree mason will be respected because we know what kind of commitment it takes to get to that point. Just as a past master gets respect. But the one thing that is universal in all of masonry is that we meet on the level. Nobody is any better or worse than anyone else. Ever.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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You should join. It might have a positive impact on your life, you could make good connections. You shouldn't ingratiate yourself with the masons if you intend to exploit them. I think masons are probably perceptive enough to know what you're doing, and who knows their methods of punishment? They may do some archaic $&!% to you.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by metodex
you are never asked to join.They do not invite people in.It goes against some of the Freemasonry rules.You lie,go make a youtube video if you want attention
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Actually it happens all the time.

When I was young, I as repeatedly asked and pressured to join Demolay.

Later, as an adult I was asked by my best friend and his father for me to join at the same time his son (my best friend) did.

Later I was asked by my (at the time) future father-in-law to join because he wanted all his “sons” to be members with him. Not only that, but another member of that family was the head (grand master if I recall correctly?) of a very large lodge in a big city, and they took me to a bunch of their events so I would be comfortable that there was nothing sinister about it. They pressed me hard, and even teased me about my religious beliefs that prevented me from joining.

My church still holds that its an excommunication offense to join any secret organizations.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.





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