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Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by DJW001
Then why don't herbal medicine producers do their own double blind studies?
Well, case in point....the USDA allows GMO corporations to prove thier
products safe...no double checking, no peer reviews.
So....why should herbal remedies be subject to anything about what GMO
corporatons get away with?
Originally posted by Tecumte
LOL. I love posts like this. ummmm, I think natural remedies ALREADY aren't allowed to make specific claims without proof on botlles, the FDA is pretty clear on this, it send it's goons in often at the drop of corporate hat if it's corporate billion dollar symptom treating market faces any serious competition. Historical data can be found on most EVERY herb, people can decide for themseves the best approcah to treat themselves, they don't need BIg Nanny there to tell them what they can or can't put in their bodies,
''Without clarity as to the standards to be used, there is the potential for New Zealand's reputation to be harmed.''
He said health products regulations in Australia and Canada were highly prescriptive about acceptable levels of evidence.
''I would strongly recommend that regulations in New Zealand are equally robust.''
The only research which is permitted to be published in reputable scientific peer-reviewed journals are studies which have been pre-approved by Monsanto and the other industry GMO firms
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
Typical redirection of attention off the real problems. It sounds like more focus on the direction of making natural supplements and herbs to require a doctor's prescriptions, that old Codex Alimentarius agenda at it again.
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by DJW001
(Dried seahorse, anyone?)
I prefer gull bladder bile mixed with my colloidal silver shake thank you very much.
Originally posted by boncho
Peer Reviewed Publications on the Safety of GM Foods
1. Hammond BG, Vicini JL, Hartnell GF, Naylor MW, Knight CD, Robinson EH, Fuchs RL, Padgette SR. 1996 The feeding value of soybeans fed to rats, chickens, catfish and dairy cattle is not altered by genetic incorporation of glyphosate tolerance. J Nutr. 126:717-27.
2. Brake J, Vlachos D. 1998 Evaluation of transgenic event 176 "Bt" corn in broiler chickens. Poult Sci. 77:648-53.
3. Fares NH, El-Sayed AK. 1998 Fine structural changes in the ileum of mice fed on delta-endotoxin-treated potatoes and transgenic potatoes. Nat Toxins. 6:219-33.
4. Ewen SW, Pusztai A. 1999 Effect of diets containing genetically modified potatoes expressing Galanthus nivalis lectin on rat small intestine. Lancet. 354:1353-4.
5. Hashimoto W, Momma K, Yoon HJ, Ozawa S, Ohkawa Y, Ishige T, Kito M, Utsumi S, Murata K. 1999 Safety assessment of transgenic potatoes with soybean glycinin by feeding studies in rats. Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 63:1942-6.
6. Pusztai A, Bardocz GG, Alonso R, Chrispeels MJ, Schroeder HE, Tabe LM, Higgins TJ. 1999 Expression of the insecticidal bean alpha-amylase inhibitor transgene has minimal detrimental effect on the nutritional value of peas fed to rats at 30% of the diet. J Nutr. 129:1597-603.
7. Tutel'ian VA, Kravchenko LV, Lashneva NV, Avren'eva LI, Guseva GV, Sorokina EIu, Chernysheva ON 1999 [Medical and biological evaluation of safety of protein concentrate from genetically-modified soybeans. Biochemical studies] [Article in Russian]. Vopr Pitan. 68:9-12.
8. Momma K, Hashimoto W, Yoon HJ, Ozawa S, Fukuda Y, Kawai S, Takaiwa F, Utsumi S, Murata K. 2000 Safety assessment of rice genetically modified with soybean glycinin by feeding studies on rats. Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 64:1881-6.
9. Palombo JD, DeMichele SJ, Liu JW, Bistrian BR, Huang YS. 2000 Comparison of growth and fatty acid metabolism in rats fed diets containing equal levels of gamma-linolenic acid from high gamma-linolenic acid canola oil or borage oil. Lipids. 35:975-81
Originally posted by boncho
I don't think the FDA operates in New Zealand.
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by boncho
Peer Reviewed Publications on the Safety of GM Foods
Are you sure? Thats for humans?
Look again, a very misleading headline!!!
Chickens, rats mice....rats....
Not humans!!!
www.naturalnews.com...
(NaturalNews) At a biotech industry conference in January 1999, a representative from Arthur Anderson, LLP explained how they had helped Monsanto design their strategic plan. First, his team asked Monsanto executives what their ideal future looked like in 15 to 20 years. The executives described a world with 100 percent of all commercial seeds genetically modified and patented. Anderson consultants then worked backwards from that goal, and developed the strategy and tactics to achieve it. They presented Monsanto with the steps and procedures needed to obtain a place of industry dominance in a world in which natural seeds were virtually extinct......
.....A few months later he got another shock. A company scientist told him that Roundup Ready cotton plants contained new, unintended proteins that had resulted from the gene insertion process. No safety studies had been conducted on the proteins, none were planned, and the cotton plants, which were part of field trials near his home, were being fed to cattle. Azevedo "was afraid at that time that some of these proteins may be toxic."
He asked the PhD in charge of the test plot to destroy the cotton rather than feed it to cattle, arguing that until the protein had been evaluated, the cows' milk or meat could be harmful. The scientist refused. Azevedo approached everyone on his team at Monsanto to raise concerns about the unknown protein, but no one was interested. "I was somewhat ostracized," he said. "Once I started questioning things, people wanted to keep their distance from me. . . . Anything that interfered with advancing the commercialization of this technology was going to be pushed aside." Azevedo decided to leave Monsanto. He said, "I'm not going to be part of this disaster."
To get their genetically modified products approved, Monsanto has coerced, infiltrated, and paid off government officials around the globe. In Indonesia, Monsanto gave bribes and questionable payments to at least 140 officials, attempting to get their genetically modified (GM) cotton accepted.(2) In 1998, six Canadian government scientists testified before the Senate that they were being pressured by superiors to approve rbGH, that documents were stolen from a locked file cabinet in a government office, and that Monsanto offered them a bribe of $1-2 million to pass the drug without further test
Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by Tecumte
LOL. I love posts like this. ummmm, I think natural remedies ALREADY aren't allowed to make specific claims without proof on botlles, the FDA is pretty clear on this, it send it's goons in often at the drop of corporate hat if it's corporate billion dollar symptom treating market faces any serious competition. Historical data can be found on most EVERY herb, people can decide for themseves the best approcah to treat themselves, they don't need BIg Nanny there to tell them what they can or can't put in their bodies,
I don't think the FDA operates in New Zealand.
I suppose it helps to read the OP article though....
''Without clarity as to the standards to be used, there is the potential for New Zealand's reputation to be harmed.''
He said health products regulations in Australia and Canada were highly prescriptive about acceptable levels of evidence.
''I would strongly recommend that regulations in New Zealand are equally robust.''edit on 6-3-2012 by boncho because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by rickymouse
I've been studying some of the natural weeds and herbs and spices and comparing them to the chemistry of medicines. I've been also studying the medical industries recommended treatments for emergency situations. I can tell you that some of these things are very real. I mainly study what grows around here and those that are used for food antidotes And a few dozen others so far. The Pharmaceutical companies almost got us to forget these free and natural weeds and herbs. We can't let them down after all their years of hard work of trying to cover this up. I can't make a general statement addressing all supplements. That would not be wise. I research every thing separately. There are also genetic variations in humans and some of these give allergies. There are also different types of metabolisms. Many meds have much more serious problems than supplements.
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Well, the idea is that herbal health claims need be proved safe.
Natural health products should have labels outlining the level of evidence of any health claims...
Well, what if they were genetically modified herbs???
Prescription drugs taken as prescribed in hospitals are the fourth leading cause of death in the US and Canada,
Originally posted by marg6043
Wake up friends in the NZ, Mr. Sir Peter Gluckman is nothing but a whore in the pockets of big pharma,