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Study: Bt toxin in GM crops kills non-target species

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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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Study: Bt toxin in GM crops kills non-target species


www.naturalnews.com

(NaturalNews) A new study out of Switzerland confirms once again that Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) toxin, the nefarious pesticide produced by certain genetically-modified (GM) crops, is harming non-target species. Published in the journal Environmental Sciences Europe, the study reveals that two-spotted ladybird (Adalia bipunctata L.) larvae exposed to Bt toxin experience a much higher mortality rate than those not exposed (www.enveurope.com...).

Learn more: www.naturalnews.com...
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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Ok, so this woman Dr. Angelika Hilbeck and her colleagues were destroyed in 2009 working with these larvae. After obtaining funding from a non GMO company, maybe somebody will listen when this woman says "it's a poison, not an herbicide,Not a pesticide, but a poison." great links up at natural news. We need people like this. We need independent studies that can show what we are doing with these environmental abominations. I wish most environmentalists would put a hold on Co2 and focus on the stuff we eat. that may be too much to ask

But.. This is just another study that will soon be attacked. Funding to be cut, after all. check out the links, you are all eating (at least) trace amounts of BT regularly, it's important that you understand what it is. This isn't so much a surprise, after all, "it kills the roots, guaranteed."

www.naturalnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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Also important to remember, I bet a lot of people don't know about the bt resistant bugs, even today. Some that do haven't even heard about our response in 2007. Oh the irony. We just genetically engineered bt again, genius right?
www.biology-online.org...
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Hmmm,

Please don't get me wrong here, I don't mean to ask silly questions, but I feel as if you know much more of this subject than I do.

Exactly why are they poisoning the crops? Pesticides are poisonous enough.

Means of simply depopulating us? Or some other agenda I can't see? Maybe you can enlighten me to this.


Very scary, yet interesting findings though. I hope they do not cut their funds before they find out more information, but I am sure the government is on it's way right now to shut it down for finding such compelling information.

Thank you for this post.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Well, roundup is the most dangerous IMO because it binds to nutrients and prevents them from being absorbed by the root (save monsantos patented crops) only years after farmers started dousing their fields indiscriminately they found it wasn't biodegradable, as Monsanto claimed, and actually stayed in the soil for years afterward, still binding with nutrients in the soil. This actually causes a resistance in the weeds of fields continuously, like an animal adapting to less food. So now many farmers spray more roundup to compensate, it's an endless cycle

It's about power. They have the power, and they use it and protect it and can cut funding from anywhere it seems. When the president or prime minister gets pressured and calls a university, threatening to cut funding over and over, you know this company has power.

I do believe they are profiting from our medical issues as well. There are so many common diseases these days that all come from nutritional deficiencies, but they try to fix those with drugs. That's big business. But you know what would be the biggest business? Children

If you find a way to sterilize an unwitting population, you control who breeds and who doesn't. All of their gmos seem to hit fertility, nearly every time they study long term generational studies. They don't eat their own food, the scientists that tell the FDA to approve these products refuse treat anything but certified organics. Remember, not everyone cares what happens to the world once they have died. These people only want power while they are here. I fear they are the ones growing our food.
Hope it helps

That says it all, "it kills the roots, guaranteed"
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:02 PM
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This report will be attacked. I will explain why (in my opinion).

When it comes to the kind of news we need to hear about developments and discoveries regarding the commercial exploits of Monsanto, Dow, 3M, Bayer, and all the others in the Big Aggro, Big Pharma, Big Chemical industrial combines, Natural News regrettably pursues a campaign of releases which are typically sensationalistic and gravitate towards a degree of "fear mongering."

I do not disagree with their general estimations about the dangers of allowing industrialists and businessmen bent of obscene profit-taking to both disseminate untried and poorly-understood technologies as well as insert themselves into the regulatory process world-wide.

But on numerous occasions Natural News has zealously presented itself as a journalistic effort, rather than a blog. They have adopted the same techniques as modern 'faux-press' in that they routinely fail to clearly indicate where there is dissent from the point of view they hold, conflicting scientific data, and most unforgivably (in my book) they don't tell people when they are fretting over a "worst case" scenario. Such things are 'good for business' in that it confirms what many wish to hear...drawing an audience of willing people predisposed to hate big industry.... but journalism isn't about telling people what they want to hear, it's about telling them what we know.

I wish them well, as few are willing to handle the resistance of the brainwashed who trust the peddlers of synthetics as better than natural. But unless they begin to admit there are areas where they choose to expose only those studies and reports which confirm their concerns; I have to take everything they say with a grain of "reading this means my work is not done" salt - which is to say I must verify everything they report because I can't be sure they are not simply throwing anything bad they can find at the "bad guys."

It sort of breaks my heart because I think they are probably mostly 'on target'...

BT toxin is not what farmers are sold... they are sold the certainty of plentiful crops.

If (and perhaps when) farmers and their families begin to fall ill from continuous exposure to this unnatural creation, they will lament not paying attention to the many protests mounted by activists such as those in Natural News. But it will, in part, be because the product Natural News produced was so deeply biased as to make it certain to appear repugnant to those primary consumers on the front line.

At this point if you were to forbid Monsanto, for example, from distributing it's product, most farmers would be hard pressed to adjust... The monopoly is firmly in place; ask any farmer if he or she wants to cross them.... they will likely say "no" and not read - or pay any attention to - the likes of "those kooks" at Natural news.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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Oh, of course!
Our medical bills and such are indeed the profit they receive from doing such things. Thank you for enlightening me to this, as obvious as it is or should have been to me. D'oh!


They are hitting us in the once place we cannot afford to prosper without: Food.

We pay money for the food that gives us the diseases/injuries ----> Sent to the doctor for "treatment" of said diseases, which costs even more money -----> Prescribed medications to "treat" said disease, which costs more money -----> Medications do not heal the problem, they only make it more manageable so over time the disease festers which leads to -----> Hospitalization for the truly untreated, but simply masked disease, which costs yet even more money, or another route, Hospitalization for the long term effects of the medications prescribed such as bleeding of the stomach lining, kidney failure, etc etc.

They all go hand in hand
Hah.... >.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Exactly! It's always chasing the symptoms, never the cause.


reply to post by Maxmars
 

Unfortunately, I know you are right. Not many will actually read the study that it links to, they will attack the "source."
This doesn't matter to me, everyone uses the truth for their own reasons. Some like natural news use these tactics in a similar fashion to Alex jones, I understand that.

" piss em off, scare em, and they will research the info on their own." it's effective, I admit. But would I get more exposure from just posting the hard to understand study? Would people listen more if it came from someone other than natural news? I would hope the information is the important part, no matter who says it.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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It's sad because for years I thought I was being smart by self-medicating when I had a simple cold or such by eating lots of oranges and lemons for their vitamin C but it seems my fresh fruits and veggies could be the culprits of my bigger sicknesses.
I buy organic, but then again, who can trust how truly organic those products are :/
Monsanto may have put his tainted fingers into all of the food supplies by now, I may just be paying more for the same GM food.

I can't win, haha.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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this is why I fight

80% of our food. Find out what crops are if it's important to you. Your citrus should be fine honestly. It's the bigger ones that are scarier. Potatoes, corn, canola, soy, cotton. They are pushing toward the other crops also



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Actually, it is highly important to me.

And the more I read about it, the more I wish to fight aswell.

I get very sick when I consume too much meat, chicken, pork, anything. Especially red meat makes me sick, even in small quantities. I have been this way my entire life.

I am not a vegetarian, because I do enjoy my big juicy steak and my fried chicken here and there but I take it in moderation as I said, it does make me sick.

So that leaves me Seafood, Fruits, Veggies, and Nuts.

Seafood is sketchy a lot of the times because most of the waters are contaminated by the unintentional run off, and plain out intentional pollution so I have to be careful with that.

Soon, the pollution, intentional or not, will trickle down and full blown effect my veggies aswell. So what does that leave me with to eat?

Nothing?

Inorganic matter for nutrients?!

OR processed fake foods, which I will not eat either. This is very scary for me :/



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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Unfortunately, researchers and journalists going against the mainstream DO tend to sensationalize and dramatize, just to get media attention. Then it backfires.

But the good news is, any press is good press. Once information and ideas get "out" they create a market - and then, the good guys can do a rational and "objective" documentary.





S&F&



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:57 PM
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Well, even campbell soup is now owned by Monsanto. And I forgot this and got some chunky chicken noodle soup.

Now this must have been somewhat recent, when their soup became inedible. Because it used to be good.

I can't eat it, only dipped organic sprouted whole grain bread into the juice.

The noodles really upset me.

GMO is toxic, both to humans and the environment.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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Are you serious?!?! That's why their soup sucks now.... I used to love me some chunky chicken noodle when I was a kid....



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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If you own a majority of the shares in a company, you decide what business practices they implement, who they buy from, where they sell. This means you can " own" a company without technically having to buy the company. This is extremely easy for giants like Monsanto. It means buying multimillion dollar companies for pocket change. It also means crappier soup in this case
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Yes, that is why.

It makes shopping hard, they own so much. QUAKERS! Just about all the names we have used for years.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Monsanto Owned Companies & Products

And I accidentally ate some of the noodles and still have a stomach ache literally. I seem to be sensitive to their GMO noodles.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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Wow, I knew they were big, I had no idea they were that big. Damnit even bisquick? Argh



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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I have a rule of thumb that has served me well...

If you "have heard of the brand" on TV, Radio, Magazines, or Newspapers.... it's GMO.

It's that pervasive.

My greatest fear is that we discover later that these 'unique' molecular structures engender new "prion" ailments, since they are not a product of natural evolution.

Even the stuff we don't think about that's sort of 'background' ingredients... sugar beets, bell peppers, pomegranates, cinnamon, these strands of genetically engineered DNA are spreading EVERYWHERE... no one ... NO ONE ... can contain them once 'deployed.'

Trying to "control" any industrial crop's pollination is like trying shovel fleas. Most of them go 'elsewhere' before you even get halfway to tossing them wherever you want them.

Slightly off topic:

Thanks for keeping us up to speed with this. Even if it is only we here... someone has to bear witness to this... because otherwise only the corporate historians will know... and there's no telling how they will market their version of the past to our progeny.... "... it was a glorious solution to starvation..... "

... like people who use child pornography as an excuse to squelch free speech, they claim to fight starvation and poverty... and actually only succeed in getting richer.... is that comedic tragedy, or ironic satire?

but I ramble....



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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They are using their dirty corrupted money to buy many manufactures in the nation, remember people that anything that is produced in quantities and is not label "organic" is produced with GMOs.

Once people understand the great significance of this you will realized where our nation is heading.

Right now if you are used to eat mostly manufactured foods be aware that you are eating GMO poisons, on a daily basics and perhaps should start thinking what is happening to you and your health lately.


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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Well I for one like when peoples "ramblings" make perfect sense. Imagine once they start deploying their Mosquitos. There is no recall. Thats also bad news for cross pollination. Its a personal conspiracy of mine, but it always seemed like the terminator seeds were to keep their crops from Becoming Invasive. It's impossible to destroy every bit of genetically modified plant life right now. It's too widespread (and spreads too easily)

It's been shown that when you eat gmo's they find it in the bloodstream. This is why there is an immune response. Your body is trying to fight off the unnatural invader. What kind of world is it when you have to fight your food once you have eaten it?

Just imagine, if the gmo's get labelled people can compete with the monopoly again. Monsanto wouldn't get to dominate with the contracts and subsidies. Imagine if we actually had a choice. Organic farmers have to go through all the regulations that Monsanto gets lobbied, it strangles the competition because they can get anything passed. I haven't been able to find one gmo that has ever been denied.
I suppose you have to be able to safety test it for it to get denied right?

We really should do that if there is nothing to hide. Yet they spend millions a year throwing their weight around and destroying the ones speaking out against them. It's pathetic, they hit our wallet and we can't hit theirs. I mean why should it be illegal to label gmo's? Why are the shareholders so afraid of labeling? Usually shareholders are afraid of what's bad for business

Just my thoughts

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Originally posted by Maxmars
I have a rule of thumb that has served me well....

My greatest fear is that we discover later that these 'unique' molecular structures engender new "prion" ailments, since they are not a product of natural evolution.


I'm writing a book about this. A "human mad cow disease" you know, caused by the food. It honestly doesn't sound so far fetched with how much we tinker with genetics, of which we know nothing about. Yeah junk DNA my ass..what we do today messes with whole families of genes we thought were "junk"

It's like table salt lol. You break apart the chlorine and sodium and they are two of the most destructive things, but together they are salt. One truncated protein can have the same kind of effect
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posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by Monsatan
I would hope the information is the important part, no matter who says it.


It is, for the ones seeking to learn and are genuine, that is the important part!




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