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Globalisation has turned on its Western creators

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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Globalisation has turned on its Western creators




In real terms, Americans are on average no better off than they were 30 years ago; in Britain, the Institute for Fiscal Studies says that our real disposable incomes are in the midst of a 14-year freeze.

Vast tracts of gainful employment in textiles, potteries, shoe-making, machine tools and many other industries have disappeared, to be replaced by… well, not very much at all

Western business leaders embraced globalisation not just because it opens up new markets, introduces new ideas and weeds out unproductive, protected sectors, but because it allows for lower production costs and so bigger profits.

It doesn’t seem to have occurred to them that if you don’t provide Western consumers with jobs, they’ll be priced out of the market and the mother economy will wither and die.

...by opening up the global economy to Asia, Latin America and Eastern Europe, the West seems to have unleashed a doomsday machine which threatens ever-greater destruction of its own living standards.

After a brief number of years in which globalisation made everything seemingly cheaper, the terms of trade have moved badly against the West.

The Telegraph


It is hard to ignore the fact that Western manufacturing jobs have been exported overseas. Was that the plan of globalisation?

That ordinary Western people have to compete against a Chinese worker who will work for a fraction of the wages of an American?

That isn't an increase in wealth for all. It's lower wages for Americans or no jobs at all.




posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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It's a combination of things.

Corporate greed. (wnting more profits at the sacrifice of long-term plnning)
Union greed (making increasing demands)
And consumer greed (picking cheaper mass-produced items instead of highe price, quality items.)

We're all guilty.
*raises hand in shame*



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Nice find, the world was better off in 2007 than it is now, it was better in 2006 and even better in 2005 - common theme presented - every year things seem to get worse and worse from the economy to family life as people struggle to feed their kids and keep a roof over their heads. All we here is BS like yesterdays announcement that the economy is improving but yet more cuts and more taxes are coming down the pipe. Nice find! Thanks for sharing!



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Just remember, folks, today, right now, we're living in the "good old days". Pretty depressing, huh?



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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And the factories that we do have left, we have millions of illegal immigrants taking those jobs. We can't win.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
Just remember, folks, today, right now, we're living in the "good old days". Pretty depressing, huh?


Nice, years from now I'll look back hopefully from a better time period and say F the good ole days. Well there's hoping it gets better though the outlook is grim.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Where I live there are no unions to speak of except in large sector public jobs. They rarely strike.
Prices of most things from rent to food rise 5%-10% a year.
If you are lucky, you might get a 1% or 1.5% payrise per year. If you're lucky.

I think those figures could also be applied to many western countries. In any case, globalisation has not led to substantially cheaper prices or higher quality goods. That all magically stayed the same while a few CEO's and the stockholders got even richer.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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None of this is happening by accident, you fools. This was the plan all along.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
Just remember, folks, today, right now, we're living in the "good old days". Pretty depressing, huh?


When our ruling elite assure us that globalisation makes us better off, don't they really mean that it makes them even richer but the everyone else poorer?


Source: USATODAY
Those are 2002 figures. I kind of doubt things have got better since then.

How can we forget that today 45.3 million Americans are on food stamps.

Huffington Post


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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Absolutely.

We all must all look beyond the "oops, it just happened like that!" facade. Follow the money. Whose benefited? The people who pushed for globalization in the first place. They are not suffering whatsoever; it is the average citizen who suffers, and the psychopaths in power economically and politically, for the most part, couldnt give a damn.

America (and the West in general) has been destroyed by design. Many have predicted it, and many have raved that these days would come. Now they have arrived, and now *some* people are *just* *starting* to listen. Most still have their heads in the sand, or up their own bums.

But we are a day late, and dollar short on this one. Perhaps "years" late, and "trillions" short would be more apt.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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It wasn't intended to be increased wealth for all. It was intended to be increased corporate profit for multinationals.

Judged on that metric its a roaring success.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by PageAlaCearl

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
Just remember, folks, today, right now, we're living in the "good old days". Pretty depressing, huh?


Nice, years from now I'll look back hopefully from a better time period and say F the good ole days. Well there's hoping it gets better though the outlook is grim.

*sigh*

Remember when unemployment was JUST 15%?

Good times. . . . . . good times. . . . . .



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by CaptChaos
None of this is happening by accident, you fools. This was the plan all along.


The super rich are defining the political agenda ($$ talks), but it isn't an agenda designed to benefit the working or middle class.

The rise of the overclass


We’ve all heard of the 'underclass’: now its mirror image – a super-rich elite that is equally cut off from the rest of us – is defining the political debate


Even more than Britain, the United States has experienced the emergence of an arrogant and deracinated “overclass” of super-rich.

Economists say that the super-rich in the United States are now seven times better off than they were 30 years ago. Troublingly, this massive growth of wealth and power has come directly at the expense of ordinary people.

Statistics show that the income of the average working male in the United States has flatlined since the 1970s.

This sharp division of wealth has been accompanied by an even more troubling phenomenon: the ideals of the founding fathers have been shattered as class divisions in the US have widened beyond anything seen in Victorian Britain.

Social mobility is in the process of grinding to a halt, as the American sociologist Charles Murray has exposed in a brilliant new book, Coming Apart.

Murray exposes how the new United States upper class, which he labels a “cognitive elite”, has developed an hereditary stranglehold over the top professions and management positions.

The brightest people tend to marry each other, then ensure that their offspring get to the best schools and universities, with the result that, to quote Murray: “The parents of the upper-middle class now produce a disproportionate number of the smartest children.”

Half a century ago, young men and women were encouraged to escape from poverty through ambition and hard work: now they embrace welfare and helplessness as a way of life.

The Telegraph


The article also makes the point that these super rich, despite holding US or UK passports, hold no allegiance to those countries.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by CaptChaos
None of this is happening by accident, you fools. This was the plan all along.


What plan? I admit I maybe a fool, but do you have a link to the plan? Globalisation has been an inevitable consequence of improvements in travel and communication technologies, not to mention the ending of the cold war and the emergence of other Economies like the BRIC nations. Nations that now demand a peace of the pie that effectively compete with our western nations on a global stage.

It's slightly arrogant of us to have a problem with millions around the world whose living standards have increased due to globalisation, just because our living standards may be declining.

I think we in the west need to find something we can specialise in that these emerging economies want to buy or invest in. We can not compete when it comes to manufacturing anymore.

I'm certainly no fan of the way globalisation has been implemented and the global institutions, like the WTO or IMF, but I don't see it as being part of a master plan.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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This is sad but true.

It's all about power and money...aka...the Golden Rule..."He who has the Gold makes the Rules"

They don't care about us...it's all about making more money and buying more political influence to get their ideas and agendas driven through. To make sure they stay on top and no one can challenge their lofty financial and political positions.

Just think about the housing bubble collapse...look at how much land the corporations got through foreclosures...and then got the Government to pay for it (aka our taxes)...they called them "toxic assets" but since when has land asset and ownership ever been a toxic thing? The more land you own, the more control you have...especially over the people inhabiting it or even living near it.

I have felt ever since that day the stock market crumbled in 2008 that this was all done on purpose. The old money guys endured and even prospered and the "new" money people suddenly found their ship sinking and nothing they could do to stop it. If you are in the "old money club" you were spared... if not...well you didn't deserve to be "one of them" anyway...so...so long!

Like I said, it all comes down to power, money and control. There are those elitists out there that don't believe there is a place in "their world" for Democracy and now with huge amounts of money...they are slowly chipping away the idea of democracy and a Republic rule of law. Remember, even Sigmund Freud believed human beings were incapable of democracy and self governing because we are too irrational and violent by nature.

The elite could care less if the entire world becomes...well...the equivalent of a "third world country" as long as they have their power and opulence...sucks to be just a "average citizen"....anywhere.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Globalization was never wanted by the citizens of our countries. It was wanted by the Governments, the Bankers and the Corporate masters.

For them, profits are breaking records. For us, we are far poorer than we were. For instance today US Median wage was revealed to be lower in 2012 than it was in 2009, which adjusted for inflation puts median wage lower than any time since 1990...

Globalization is our enemy.. but corporations and governments show absolutely no desire to stop.



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