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Anonymous. Our best shot at the truth?

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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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I was just thinking, what if the hacker group Anonymous were to hack into government files and release information about ET life? These guys (or girls) seem to be able to hack into anything, who's to say they won't release something related to ET's/life on other planets?

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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Presumably government networks are well protected and monitored and the data or files you are referring to might not even be in digital form or accessible on computers. I'm sure all the damning stuff either doesn't exist or is buried at secret locations accessible only to a privileged few. I mean, why risk letting a secret come out if you can hide or destroy it? Digital information makes destroying it as simple as pushing a button.

ETA Many years ago an Scottish guy called Gary McKinnon "hacked" into NASA systems and claims he saw a document that mentioned "Extra Terrestrial Officers". He is (possibly?) awaiting extradition to the US on trumped up charges (he actually hacked nothing) but by his own admission smoked much Cannabis, suffered from depression and has since been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. Take it for what you will.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Imo I think there would never be "disclosure".
If aliens are real, they are here and never left. They are not public because they dont want to be.
The only way they are kept a secret is if maybe they are the ones running the show.
One day the mothership or whatever they travel in will just show up.
No disclosure in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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anon is over...

plus they cant do crap against secured computer systems that dont run on the interwebs...



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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www.dailymail.co.uk...
they work for the government i always thought they were this kinda backs it up^^^



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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Most protected government files are on what is called a closed network where the only way to get to them is to actually have physical access to a government site to get on the network with the information. That is one of the main ways to protect information without the world having possible access to it. Of course, where there is a will there is a way.

One of the ways that was used a long time ago to just get into a file system was to walk into a building with a disk in hand and write "Salary Report" on it and leave it in the bathroom. The disk would of course only contain false information but the executable to run the false salary report would have a virus/trojan run and allow the hacker access to the internal network. It is amazing that you can always count on human curiosity to subvert any measures taken to keep them out.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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You want to stop anon getting the super secret files?

Stick a folder called "giant porn stash" in the same directory. Its all about priorities after all.


Seriously though Sabu wasn't even anon (LuzSec formed as a splinter group remember) so how his arrest means the end of anon I dont know, expect the enemy you dont know as opposed to the enemy you do from now on as a lot of the US/UK/EU users will be spooked.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by anydaynow18
 

Presumably government networks are well protected and monitored and the data or files you are referring to might not even be in digital form or accessible on computers. I'm sure all the damning stuff either doesn't exist or is buried at secret locations accessible only to a privileged few. I mean, why risk letting a secret come out if you can hide or destroy it? Digital information makes destroying it as simple as pushing a button.

ETA Many years ago an Scottish guy called Gary McKinnon "hacked" into NASA systems and claims he saw a document that mentioned "Extra Terrestrial Officers". He is (possibly?) awaiting extradition to the US on trumped up charges (he actually hacked nothing) but by his own admission smoked much Cannabis, suffered from depression and has since been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. Take it for what you will.
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That's a good point, didn't think of that.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:24 AM
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Just an FYI here. What Gary McKinnon did, can not , and should not be legitimately refered to as hacking. Hacking requires that a person accesses data that is encrypted and protected. What Mr McKinnon did, was prove that NASA's data was not secured in any fashion. He did the equivalent of walking into a bookstore, and reading a book. He did not have to pick a digital lock, nor cheat his way through passcode access programs, or do any coding. There was, in short, no hacking.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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His case is awaiting judicial review and a review of the one way extradition process we have in the UK

Also, Nasa never did come clean
"In 2006, a Freedom of Information Act request was filed with NASA for all documents pertaining to Gary McKinnon. NASA's documents consisted of printed news articles from the Slashdot website, but no other related documents. This is consistent with NASA employees browsing internet articles about Gary McKinnon; the records of such browsing activity are in the public domain."

Here is and interview with him from some time back
www.wired.com...

"McKinnon: A NASA photographic expert said that there was a Building 8 at Johnson Space Center where they regularly airbrushed out images of UFOs from the high-resolution satellite imaging. I logged on to NASA and was able to access this department. They had huge, high-resolution images stored in their picture files. They had filtered and unfiltered, or processed and unprocessed, files.

My dialup 56K connection was very slow trying to download one of these picture files. As this was happening, I had remote control of their desktop, and by adjusting it to 4-bit color and low screen resolution, I was able to briefly see one of these pictures. It was a silvery, cigar-shaped object with geodesic spheres on either side. There were no visible seams or riveting. There was no reference to the size of the object and the picture was taken presumably by a satellite looking down on it. The object didn't look manmade or anything like what we have created. Because I was using a Java application, I could only get a screenshot of the picture -- it did not go into my temporary internet files. At my crowning moment, someone at NASA discovered what I was doing and I was disconnected.

I also got access to Excel spreadsheets. One was titled "Non-Terrestrial Officers." It contained names and ranks of U.S. Air Force personnel who are not registered anywhere else. It also contained information about ship-to-ship transfers, but I've never seen the names of these ships noted anywhere else."


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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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From the videos ive seen on Youtube (lol), it should be a walk in the park. All they have to do is grab a camera, walk into area 51 and take some footage. No need to hack




There are thousands of vids from inside area 51, some show autopsy's, others show the alien crafts.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Judging by UFO lore such a grand cover up would have hardly any paper trail let alone any information stored on public servers. IMO the info would have to be on public servers connected to the net for anonymous to have a chance?

Any hard info on such a secret would be on military servers within closed networks, you would have to be at a connected terminal to have any hope of finding anything.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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or simply write down pr0n on the cd, more guaranteed, pihihihihi!!! ^^



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by anydaynow18
I was just thinking, what if the hacker group Anonymous were to hack into government files and release information about ET life? These guys (or girls) seem to be able to hack into anything, who's to say they won't release something related to ET's/life on other planets?


Dependence is dependence is dependence, whether it is in our government, our media or a gaggle of hackers. You are dependent on someone else to tell you the truth and then on your own when it comes to buying it or not.

Better, in my opinion, to be self reliant... vet your resources thoroughly and never believe something someone says regardless of political slant or claims to honesty.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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Anonymous is currently in CIA hands and control. Plus, they won't give any info out.

Stop believing in this Anon crap, it's just a hacker group for USA Gov.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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LOL@Lulz

I'm lovin' it. Hope they round up everyone of them Guy Fawkesian dorks and put them right where they belong... prison with the rest of the common thieves, vandals, and traitors that have fooled themselves into thinking they are too clever to be caught.


Losers.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by TrueBrit
Just an FYI here. What Gary McKinnon did, can not , and should not be legitimately refered to as hacking. Hacking requires that a person accesses data that is encrypted and protected. What Mr McKinnon did, was prove that NASA's data was not secured in any fashion. He did the equivalent of walking into a bookstore, and reading a book. He did not have to pick a digital lock, nor cheat his way through passcode access programs, or do any coding. There was, in short, no hacking.


Quite true... he also had no idea how to 'print screen' to get a copy of what he saw or access his temp internet files that would still have a copy of what was seen


As a hacker... Gary = supreme FAIL and a Poster Boy for why smoking weed is bad for you


"What were the ship names?"

"I can't remember," says Gary. "I was smoking a lot of dope at the time. Not good for the intellect."



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Maponos
You want to stop anon getting the super secret files?

Stick a folder called "giant porn stash" in the same directory. Its all about priorities after all.


Seriously though Sabu wasn't even anon (LuzSec formed as a splinter group remember) so how his arrest means the end of anon I dont know, expect the enemy you dont know as opposed to the enemy you do from now on as a lot of the US/UK/EU users will be spooked.






2nd
The nice hackers from the US and Europe have been caught
What about the not so nice hackers that fight dirty from everywhere else
No one to keep them reigned in now, that voice of restraint could well be gone
And hackers will soooo want vengeance



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Maponos
His case is awaiting judicial review and a review of the one way extradition process we have in the UK


Wow that is some LONG process he did it in what 2001? and here we are in 2012 and its still "awaiting judicial review"
What a joke. Gary is a red herring... at this rate he will be dead before they make a decision


Also, Nasa never did come clean "In 2006, a Freedom of Information Act request was filed with NASA for all documents pertaining to Gary McKinnon.


Nasa is under no obligation to come clean. They are a branch of the DoD. In the fine print on any NASA website (at the bottom) you will see 'Freedom of Information Act" click on that... then you will see
"A link is also included to the NASA FOIA Regulations, "Availability of Agency Records to Members of the Public" which will provide you with more detailed information concerning the processing of your FOIA request. "

14 CFR Part 1206 -- Index
AVAILABILITY OF AGENCY RECORDS TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
Subpart 3--Exemptions


(b) The requirements of this part to make Agency records available do not apply to matters that are--

(1)

(i) Specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive Order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and

(ii) Are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive Order;

(2) Related solely to the internal personnel rules and practices of NASA;

(3) Specifically exempted from disclosure by statute (other than 5 U.S.C. 552), provided that such statute:

(i) Requires that the matters be withheld from the public in such a manner as to leave no discretion on the issue, or

(ii) Establishes particular criteria for withholding or refers to particular types of matters to be withheld;


So since Gary is a foreign national 'hacking' into US federal government systems, he is classed as 'bational security' and they don't have to tell you squat



They had huge, high-resolution images stored in their picture files. They had filtered and unfiltered, or processed and unprocessed, files.


That they do... raw images up 2 2 gigs in size but you don't need to hack those, just need a Linux system to view them



Because I was using a Java application, I could only get a screenshot of the picture -- it did not go into my temporary internet files. At my crowning moment, someone at NASA discovered what I was doing and I was disconnected.


Ah so he changed his story now So where is that picture he did get a screenshot of?


I also got access to Excel spreadsheets. One was titled "Non-Terrestrial Officers." It contained names and ranks of U.S. Air Force personnel who are not registered anywhere else. It also contained information about ship-to-ship transfers, but I've never seen the names of these ships noted anywhere else."


Odd first time he told that story they were NAVY officers, not Air Force



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