Recently I have been researching the events leading up to WWII, and the origins of Germanys aggression. While it is hard to find any good accurate information, I have found some interesting info, and would like some expansion on this topic and some verification.
From what I am reading, it seems that certain groups, France, Russia, and some others were busy building up forces upon germany's borders since the end of WWI. While many pieces of Germany were parceled off after WWI, and the german citizens there were being oppressed by their new rulers, some of the western powers were waiting hungrily for the chance to snag more.
Also, well prior to any german oppression or massacres of jews, many newspapers from around the world call on the jews to unite in a war upon germany, cutting them off economically, and even further condemning the germans to poverty in a time that they were sorely burdened by the reparations demanded of them.
On top of this, from what I am reading, the germans at the time were afraid of the unequal representation the jewish groups maintained in many governments, fearing the power displayed by them in the Bolshevik revolution, as well as the attempts to spread Bolshevism to other nations. They were also very angry with the jewish germans for their role in organizing the naval revolt near the end of WWI, which they blame for them losing the war.
It also is mentioned in several places that Nazi Germany and the Zionists of the time had made a pact to influence jewish populations to move to Israel and try to establish a state there.
So, what veracity is there to all this, as its not something I've ever seen in school, or even in any books I've seen. Can someone verify and/or expand upon this? It is all extremely interesting, and if anyone could recommend any good books dealing with this period, and the issues and mindset of the germans during this time (not just the garbage official story bunk), it would be much appreciated.

I would love to give you my thoughts on isreal, ww1, ww2 and the upcoming ww3 but due to the pre-crime law and being called anti-semetic I will refrain, some topics I have learned are ABOVE TOP SECRET. what I will say is this follow the money he who controls the money controls the world (for now) you will see who is in charge.................
since when does a foreign state dictate acts of war or aggression against another without reprisal or un intervention again I say follow the money all conflicts should be resolved without military involvement but then how would they justify there budgets
the ego's of the ones in power is so out of control they care only for the bottom line they care only for there diplomactic relation and income generated from any conflict. look at who gains in any of the world wars and you will finally see the faces of TPTB
I have probubly said to much or not enough you decide.....................

Most of what we've been told about WWII and hitler in general is a lie.

With all due respect I think you need to read an awful lot more about World War One and World War Two. You are deducing things in an extremely misguided manner. France and Britain did indeed occupy parts of the Rhineland after World War 2, but this is perfectly logical. As for World War One Germany, for many reasons (though I can't say they were justified), embarked on a war of aggression - one that obliterated much of northern France (not to mention most of Belgium). The cost, in terms of men, equipment, infrastructure, moral and money to the Allies, mainly France, Britain (plus it's Empire), Russia, Belgium, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand was immense. Americans normally do not comprehend World War One as they played a very small and late part in it (their fresh troops simply helped overwhelm a Germany already weakened by almost 4 years of the most brutal conflict). Thus I don't think it is exactly out of order that the allies, especially France, wanted to beef up security on the borders.

If you look at inter-war planning you will also see that French strategy and defence spending was entirely focused on a defensive strategy, hence the building of the Maginot line at such massive expense. This is also one of the main reasons why Germany defeated France so easily in 1940, because the French were not prepared for a mobile conflict or to take the initiative and strike Germany in 1939 when they were still deployed against Poland. British defence spending plummeted during the inter-war years. So your observations with regards to the western allies' military dispositions after World War One are entirely wrong.

As for the German Naval 'rebellions'. Again you are completely wrong. They were more like strikes or mutinies born out of frustration - nothing more sinister. The German fleet, with the exception of the u-boats, spent most of it's time anchored in harbours, trapped by the Royal Navy's blockade. They did attempt to take on the Royal Navy in a fleet action at the Battle of Jutland, but besides that they had a very inactive war. The sailors were simply fed up sitting there in harbour. Cramped, bored and feeling like they should be doing something. It is only to be expected there was trouble. In reality the strikes and mutinies had almost no effect on the outcome of the war as the German high seas fleet would have been obliterated by the Royal Navy if it had of tried to take them on again (at Jutland the Germans did well ship-for-ship, but they had no reserves to replace their losses, whereas the Royal Navy had more than enough reserves).

In terms of your Nazi- Zionist plans for an Israeli state? Well, there were discussions before World War 2 in some Nazi circles about setting up a Jewish state in Madagascar if the Germans could secure it and manage to transport the Jews there, but it was not a popular or viable plan. People who insinuate that the Nazis and Jews had any kind of mutual discussions about a Jewish state being formed are absolutely ignorant of events. Some Jews did collaborate with the Germans for sure, such as the leaders of the Polish Ghettos, but only under duress and to try to prolong their existence in the face of certain death.

Tying the Jews into a big Bolshevik conspiracy is absurd, though it seems the idea is attractive to many misguided Americans especially. There were plenty of Jews in the Bolshevik movement - but this is hardly surprising to anyone with the slightest knowledge of European history. The 'Pale of Settlement' was focused on the Polish, Ukranian, western Russian and Baltic States. Western Russia was the industrial heartland of Russia (it was not until after the German invasion in 1941 that Stalin re-located Russian industry to the east), and where the vast majority of the workers were - the exact people who were fed up with the Tsarist regime, and who bore the brunt of the horrors of World War One. These were the people who were ripe for revolution and looking for an alternative in the Russian revolutions prior to WW1 and the 1917 revolution.

I could go on, but I don't have time - I suggest you just spend a few years reading history before making such absurd judgements.

Well, from what I understand, and I may be off here, but Germany had a mutual defense treaty with austria, and so when Ferdinand was assasinated by serbians, and austria declared war with serbia, germany went along with their pact to aid austria. Accepting that germany might have been intentionally escalating the issue.
Then the french, brittain, and others got tied into the war through their mutual protection agreements, and it all became a maelstrom of countries drawn in by treaties.
At any rate, im not making judgements, just trying to find out what really went on. Yes, I can see that americans have misunderstandings about the history there, because history in american education is extremely lacking, with so much not covered or misrepresented. As I have stated many times, most americans have no clue about their own wars, from vietnam and korea, to the current wars we are involved in. Most americans even today cant name three countries that we are engaging hostilities in, and they cant even give you a real reason we went into iraq. Hell, most even have no clue about OBL's history, having no knowledge about our training or support of him and his mujahadeen during the cold war.

Two books worth reading the unloved Germans by Hermann Eich, Macdonald London, and The Nazis a warning from history by laurence Rees BBC books.
I read somewhere Hitler got really agitated about the Poles treatment of ethnic Germans living on the polish/German frontier after repeated requests by Hitler to the Polish government to stop the harrasment failed, he (Hitler) decided to use that as one more excuse to invade Poland there are unconfirmed reports of mass graves on the polish side of the frontier, as yet, after many years, they are still unconfirmed. ()No I dont love the nazi's, just read a lot of history)

Oh, another question. From what I understand, and I may be off here as well, Jewish groups started clamoring for a jewish war against germany well before german oppression of the jews... What was the motive here? Why were these groups so strongly against the german nation? Was germany at that time (I believe it was right as Hitler took power....maybe same time he was TIME's man of the year) much more oppressive of its jews than any of the other european nations?

Originally posted by mayabong

Originally posted by DJW001
The Jewish declaration of war on Germany didn't help those feelings either

do you have sources for this act?
Would love to learn more

Oh, and uh, make no mistake, guys. I am far from a nazi lover. I am taoist, and pacifist, and dont believe in violence or judgement of any sort, including racism, as I find we are all of one race. I am just trying to find as much truth as I can of history....as you can imagine, its quite an ambitious goal.

sleeping eyes, there are many easy to find pictures of the newspapers from march of 1943, and many others calling for jews of the world to boycott german goods in order to further cripple their economy. Im wondering why.

I am trying to do research....sadly, the problem is so much of it is BS. I went to the WWII museum here in new orleans....and it was more like a feel good american propaganda palace. It seems there that we went in to win the war for the rest of the world. No mention of the 20 million russian soldiers who died. No mention of the Japanese concentration camps here in the US. When searching online about WWII, almost all the info is the battles, very little about before the war. Further, most of it seems pretty biased.

The US entry into the war is presented like that of a wounded giant unfairly wronged, when it seems actually that we were already planning to move b-52's into the pacific prior to pearl harbor. Thats forgetting the fact that many US groups (including the Bush family) seem to have been supplying the nazi's even after war was declared.

Also little mention of the fact that the western powers engaged in much more brutal civilian targeted campaigns, such as in Dresden, than the germans did. Its all a lot to take in, and there are so many conflicting sources....I come here for differing voices, because thats what ats is! If i was truly just looking for someone to agree with me, I would have told my girlfriend.