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Obama Ally Won't Release Alinsky Tape

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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:22 AM
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In a follow up to yesterday's article, Breitbart writer Ben Shapiro is claiming that a tape exists of that 1998 production of The Love Song of Saul Alinsky in Chicago.

Obama was an Illinois State Senator at the time and he participated in a discussion panel after a performance of the play.

However, the "only" copy is in the possession of someone who will not release it !!

They must be hiding something ?

If Obama is so proud of his record, then why suppress historical materials



Sources inform Breitbart.com today that Pam Dickler, director of the 1998 production of The Love Song of Saul Alinsky in Chicago that included a panel discussion featuring then-State Sen. Barack Obama, has a video tape of the play.

And she won’t release it.

“There is only one archive tape of the play and I have it,” Dickler informed our source. “It is not in Chicago.”

Dickler told our source that she doesn’t believe she’s ever watched the tape, and she doesn’t know if it “can be viewed.” But she added: “No one is going to see the tape.”

She said she felt “very protective over it … due to all of the interest from conservatives recently.” She also told our source that the poster for the play was never supposed to be distributed.

Dickler added that there were no transcripts of the panel discussion.

The Breitbart Article


Associated Thread: Breitbart -- The Vetting, Part I: Barack's Love Song To Alinsky



here is a brilliant statement:

Dickler added that there were no transcripts of the panel discussion.

“They didn’t know he was going to go on to become the president,” she said. “If they had known that, they would have of course kept any transcripts, but there were never any taken.”

Duh ..

I wonder if anyone ever knew if someone was going to be President before they were President !!!







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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:42 AM
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Not sure what the point is...apart from the FACT that Mr "Clown" Breitbart wants to distract from his own shortcomings and mistakes. Alinsky isn't a criminal, and simply attending a play and joining a discussion group isn't a crime.

You and/or others might not like Alinsky's views, but making it seem as if Obama did something wrong here is complete and utter nonsense. How about focusing on real issues like indefinite detentions instead of irrelevant stuff Breitbart tried to push in an effort to distract from him being a complete douche?



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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:50 AM
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Who cares if he went to an Alinksy play?

Is another thread on this topic really needed? You already posted the article to the thread you made yesterday around the subject.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You also ignored 99% of the people that replied to the thread and continue to ramble on about a non issue involving Obama while ignoring his real crimes, like most of your threads.


Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, which is one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky's Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members. A shortened guide called Rules for Patriots is distributed to its entire network. In a January 2012 story that appeared in The Wall Street Journal, citing the organization's tactic of sending activists to town-hall meetings, Brandon explained, "his tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective." Former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey also gives copies of Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals to Tea Party leaders.[20]


So the tea party are "communists" now?
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
Who cares if he went to an Alinksy play?

Is another thread on this topic really needed? You already posted the article to the thread you made yesterday around the subject.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You also ignored 99% of the people that replied to the thread and continue to ramble on about a non issue involving Obama while ignoring his real crimes, like most of your threads.


Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, which is one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky's Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members. A shortened guide called Rules for Patriots is distributed to its entire network. In a January 2012 story that appeared in The Wall Street Journal, citing the organization's tactic of sending activists to town-hall meetings, Brandon explained, "his tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective." Former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey also gives copies of Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals to Tea Party leaders.[20]


So the tea party are "communists" now?
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That quote sounds very interesting !!

Is there a link to the whole story ??

You might be on to something ...



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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You keep talking about Obama's real crimes. Time to put up your own threads on the topic. It's time for the nation to get the full picture of who Obama really is and a big part of that picture was painted in his past. All anyone sees is the cropped version of Obama. Pan out and wonder why there is a dead end at every turn for a man who created his own page in the history books. Our nations first Black president does not want anyone to learn about his past.

Seems odd. Read his books especially "Dreams" that was written in 94 or 95. It's quite the slick writing that leaves out so much.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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I'm sure Pam values her life enough not to release it. Do you blame her?

I would tell my family good bye and do what I gotta do...how about you? Is your country worth it?

Whistle blowing is not for Cowards!

She's not evening doing anything wrong like whistle blowing what gets me.

It's just a discussion after a play. Geez...you'd really threaten me over something like that then there's more too it then it appears if that's the case why she won't release the video.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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First of all, very few people who derisively refer to Saul Alinsky actually even know who he is. It's just another example of hegemony from the GOP that now means "reference to Obama's past that is unclear but must be bad".

I can see why they would do it. "Alinsky", phonetically, has that communist ring to it so anybody ignorant enough to still be suckered into red fever hype will automatically be moved by an "Obama - Alinsky" connection, regardless of who he is.

Somebody please tell me how Obama is connected to Alinsky (who died with Obama was 10) and why that is even a bad thing.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 01:26 PM
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Some points to make.
1. Kudos, I went on search because I was going to post the same story.
2. What is he/are they hiding?
3. I wouldn't be surprised if the owner of the tape suddenly found herself "owning" a Solyndra-type company real soon.
4. Think about it. Obama on a panel discussing a radical. I would love to see that tape.
6. I think I've lost count.
F. I have to quit drinking.

S&F!



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Somebody please tell me how Obama is connected to Alinsky (who died with Obama was 10) and why that is even a bad thing.


Really?

Perhaps you are not familiar with Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation. Still alive and kicking long after his death. You know who was a student of the IAF? Obama! That's where Obama learned how to become a Community Organizer. Obama is connected to Alinsky's legacy, methods, ideology etc etc.


The leaders and organizers of the Industrial Areas Foundation build organizations whose primary purpose is power - the ability to act - and whose chief product is social change. They continue to practice what the Founding Fathers preached: the ongoing attempt to make life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness everyday realities for more and more Americans.

The IAF is non-ideological and strictly non-partisan, but proudly, publicly, and persistently political. The IAF builds a political base within society's rich and complex third sector - the sector of voluntary institutions that includes religious congregations, labor locals, homeowner groups, recovery groups, parents associations, settlement houses, immigrant societies, schools, seminaries, orders of men and women religious, and others. And then the leaders use that base to compete at times, to confront at times, and to cooperate at times with leaders in the public and private sectors.

www.industrialareasfoundation.org...

Non Partisan!!



The Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) is a national community organizing network established in 1940 by Saul Alinsky. IAF provides training and consultation, furnishes organizers, and develops national strategy for its affiliated broad-based community organizations. There are currently 57 IAF affiliates functioning in 21 states, Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany and Australia. It describes its chief purpose as power and its chief product as social change.

en.wikipedia.org...

Power and Social Change. Sound Familiar?



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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The leaders and organizers of the Industrial Areas Foundation build organizations whose primary purpose is power - the ability to act - and whose chief product is social change. They continue to practice what the Founding Fathers preached: the ongoing attempt to make life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness everyday realities for more and more Americans.


And this is all somehow very very bad?

They continue to practice what the Founding Fathers preached: the ongoing attempt to make life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness everyday realities for more and more Americans.

OMG those evil bastards!!!

Another fail thread attempting to demonize someone the right worships as much as the left. FUD is all the GOP has left.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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If you believe the founding fathers line, I've got a bridge to sell you. It does not match the rest of the rhetoric. Just fluff and you clearly bought it. These folks would be happier dancing on the graves of the founding fathers while torching the constitution at the same time so they can bring out their new version for all to see.

I guess you missed the power at all costs line buried in there eh? Whatever it takes I suppose.

"primary purpose is power - the ability to act - and whose chief product is social change. " Whatever it takes. The ends justify the means. Social Change? According to who? Based on what principals?

The primary purpose is power and the chief product of said power is social change. The common Good, The Open Society, etc etc. Their world, their views for the rest of us. Hmmm and they brainwash to get their point across... via their education and training programs.


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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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Somebody please tell me how Obama is connected to Alinsky (who died with Obama was 10) and why that is even a bad thing.


Really?

Perhaps you are not familiar with Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation. Still alive and kicking long after his death. You know who was a student of the IAF?


ME!!!

You make it sound like community organizations and actions of the people are a bad thing...



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Perhaps someone with knowledge can give us some real time examples.

How and where have any of the "Alinsky" programs actually worked ?

It seems to be mostly just theories and idealistic pie in the sky.

here is a 3 year old article: Obama introduces Alinsky Rule #13: Create successes that cannot be measured

Remember the movie “Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark?” Indy found an ancient artifact that had been lost for thousands of years.

Well, slap a snappy fedora on the president and call him Indiana Obama, because he’s discovered socialist Saul Alinsky’s long-lost 13th Rule for Radicals. It is “Create successes that cannot be measured or disproved.”

Presidents used to say, “My plan will create X jobs?” Our new president says, “My plan will create or save X jobs.”

Every time he says it, the compliant media nod enthusiastically, scribble down that day’s number, and hope like hell reporters are among the ones that are saved. ....



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by cuervo

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by Cuervo
 



Somebody please tell me how Obama is connected to Alinsky (who died with Obama was 10) and why that is even a bad thing.


Really?

Perhaps you are not familiar with Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation. Still alive and kicking long after his death. You know who was a student of the IAF?


ME!!!

You make it sound like community organizations and actions of the people are a bad thing...


Community Organizing has morphed into its own billion dollar industry and is simply being used as a means to manipulate people into voting or into supporting radical ideals and candidates. Scratched Back Scratches Back.. Money, Power, Influence, Corruption and Absolute power = Social Change based on principals not yet disclosed.

Social Change according to WHO? No one can answer that. It is certainly not based on the majority opinion in the United States. It's based on the bizarre cabal of Alinsky drones and I find it disturbing. Almost like a cult. The cult of Alinsky. It's all a veil to conceal their hate for the United States because they are working for the common good... Yes the common good. Not mine, Not yours, OURS! That's what they want. The progressive push...



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