Jesus may have been a hermaphrodite, claims academic

Originally posted by Shadowalker
What a tard.

OP are you on the same level?

He was bare ass naked nailed to a cross. We never knew this from the bible but from the writings of his enemies. That is how the history was weighed to be true.

OP are you a hermy trying to come out? serious question. no offense.

he could be a hermaphrodite and still have a penis. All it takes is one ovary and one testes to make for a true hermaphrodite....or even one and a half testes and one half of an ovary... this can happen as well.

Ambiguous genitalia is actually not indicative of being a hermaphrodite. you can have both a dick and vag and still be MEDICALLY one or the other because it has more to do with the gonads than the actually genitalia. Gonads being either testes or ovaries.

and as badly as i'd like to keep people guessing just because i sometimes like to see where people's preconceiving controversial minds will stray and how people like to label things... I have a period every month, so this suggests that both of my gonads are functioning ovaries with eggs...and I am not ambiguous, only toyboyish and very slim with small boobs, small vag and a slightly pronounced clitoris but most likely because i have simply played with it too much.

btw... I think it is DESPICABLE that anyone would rag ANYONE ELSE about gender or intersex conditions which is not an uncommon thing and you never know who you are offending because they tend to keep it secret.. and people can't help this and it doesn't mean their is anything wrong with them... it just means they are different unless they are also plagued with health complications that can sometimes occur with these conditions.

just shameful... really.

What's disgusting is someone thought this would make a good thread..............

I suppose that would explain; why Jesus had 12 guys following him around all the time :p ...In all seriousness; I don't know; but i will give the same answer I did years ago when a friend asked me, "Is one of the Hanson kids a male or female?"...I said, 'It doesn't matter." He said "Why not?" I said; "Because he or she is what 13? Sexual curiosity about a 13 year old is perverse." He said fair enough.

Jesus male or female or both? Doesn't matter; Jesus's message will stay the same.

Originally posted by BellaSabre
What's disgusting is someone thought this would make a good thread..............

No more disgusting than a male or female body... just not something you are used to.

FTR... we all start out as females. males are just overly virilized females who typically cannot bring themselves to accept it. understanding this is being in touch with your feminine side which is considered a big plus for many people.

do you realize just how many different variations of intersex conditions there are? it is ASTOUNDING... not disgusting but incredibly interesting. All it takes is for one little step in the delicate formation of a baby to cause the whole thing to come out much different than what the sperm dictated. I believe that many more people have intersex conditions than statistics show... simply because some don't figure it out until, let's say... a forty year old man wonders why he has never managed to get his wife pregnant, so he goes to get a sperm count and after some looking into it... they discover that he is actually a virilized female with female chromosomes. this happens more than you think and imagine the shock. most people like this just never go get the sperm count and remain childless and never know why.

why you would think this is disgusting when it is all part of the natural process... i just don't know. read into it and expand your mind a little. A lot of it really just boils down to when and if the virilization takes place... because it can be late.. or maybe too early.... producing all sorts of differing results. and what is the virilaztion? it's basically just hormones. how do you think they can make an ADULT male into a female? HORMONES.

males are actually just females who got a prebirth sex change and don't realize it.

reply to post by BlackSatinDancer


Yeah thanks I understand chromosomal disorders. Have studied them thoroughly in my field of work.

Thread just strikes me as in poor taste. Combine that with sleepy, and it gets a catty remark.

off to bed.

Originally posted by BellaSabre
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer

 

Yeah thanks I understand chromosomal disorders. Have studied them thoroughly in my field of work.

Thread just strikes me as in poor taste. Combine that with sleepy, and it gets a catty remark.

off to bed.

well, not sure why you would think it was poor taste other than it being about jesus... the SON of God.

i guess it just doesn't phase me anymore because i have been thinking for years now that Jesus was different than other people... and that it was actually visible in some way to others, even if only slightly... kinda setting him apart from the others if you know what I mean, but rather than treating him different and ostracizing him like most people would in a close minded society, his mother treated him with consideration and exceptional respect, which is why God chose her.

I think it helped him to be strong in his opinions and his ability to always 'see the other side of things", yet thoughtful, considerate and sensitive. Partnered with his God given gifts, it was the perfect combination of traits and upbringing. He couldn't fail, because God carefully chose his mother and this is why she is blessed among women.

I think it may have been genetic but am undecided as to how... an angel came to Mary. i have my opinion of what angels are but without proof I'm not just going to go around insisting he was a hybrid, but it's something to think about.

a lot of this is.

sure, I think Jesus was not like other men in some way.

reply to post by Shadowalker


Grow up.

There's no need to call the OP names and ridicule them.

And even if it were true, WHO CARES? The man may or may not have existed. We can't prove this 100%!

Tares Among the Wheat

In the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.” Matthew 13:30


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reply to post by BellaSabre


What's even more disgusting is the reaction from the Jesus lovers on here.

Open your mind a little. You're on ATS, not Bible Central.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Shadowalker

 

Grow up.

There's no need to call the OP names and ridicule them.

And even if it were true, WHO CARES? The man may or may not have existed. We can't prove this 100%!

You can't give "physical tangible proof" but God Himself will confirm it to you.
Then you no longer need the physical proof because He, your Creator, affirms it.
Why do you think the darkness has to go to such lengths to put such garbage out in the media? They need to in order to denigrate the idea of even thinking to ask Him in the first place. And it works. So to your comment of "who cares" - every last one of us should, as we watch the world as we know it go to hell in a hand basket. As we watch a fake group in the Middle East calling themselves Israel, when in reality the Israel of God are those who hold faith in Christ Jesus. And if you think "so what", I'd say "judgement starts with His House first". Let it sink in .... a completely controlled media convinces the youngest generations in the western nations that Jesus was nothing more than an hermaphrodite, an extraterrestrial, a phoney, a "fairytale", a non existent entity..... anything but WHO HE WAS - a Kinsman redeemer of His portion on this Earth. And many of those descendants are sitting right in the very western nations that are being expunged of their very own Redeemer. THAT'S WHY.
All of His flock will respond to the gospel, hence the motive to remove it, to get people to reject it and to alter it's message in the many apostate churches that preach another Jesus.

reply to post by WhoKnows100


Take your preaching somewhere else.

What happened to the open-minded people here at ATS?

Hmmmmmm......I think we are getting ahead of ourselves....there is still no proof that he actually existed historically.....just bible stories....so can we start there before we talk about what its gender may have been.


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wow ! - this is stupid on so many levels ....

Perhaps he was an undercover time traveling CIA agent, that went there to further a right wing anti feminist agenda from early history ?

Stating "perhaps x" without further evidence, does not do anything to make x more credible.

Perhaps the moon is really made of green cheese, just with a layer of rock on top ?

reply to post by ollncasino


I think you all should be ashamed of yourselves.

You're admonishing a woman who asked a question and did some research.

Does it make sense? Probably not.

But, science is based on the foundation of that very same curiosity.

I think most of the responses in this thread are close-minded, juvenile and sexist. If you can't grasp something like this, then go stare at a cave wall.

reply to post by The Sword


And *I* think you should go post elswhere if you don't like the thread. Stop telling people what to do.


Seriously, guys, this is nothing but a feminist trying to make her mark in the world. You treat a feminazi like you do a troll. Don't feed it and they shrivel and die.

reply to post by netwarrior


Excuse me?

If you can't handle something like this, then why are YOU on ATS?

It seems like some of you are scared of anyone who has a vagina and a brain.

This article is sensationalism on the same level of Rush Limbaugh.

Rush doesn't mean half the stuff he says... but it gets him attention.

It seems perfect to me. If Jesus was created by god, in Mary's womb, via immaculate conception, in order to minister divine truth to all of humanity, why wouldn't have god created Jesus with both genitalia?

If god had never intended for Jesus to procreate, as Jewish men are commanded, this would have been a perect safeguard. It also would be a message to all that men are not above women, but both are equal.

I'm willing to accept this theory as just as valid as any other associated with Jesus Christ and his mythical journey.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by BulletShogun
reply to post by ollncasino

 

I think she is just trying to get herself known by saying something shocking to get attention.

Apparently she is trying to justify female priests, using the logic that Jesus may have been sexually confused in some way.

It is therefore difficult to argue that priesthood – or the capacity to be legitimately consecrated as a bishop – rests in biological male sex. It might rest in being recognized socially as a man, but that is something different.

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The fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus was anything other than a man, doesn't seem to distract her in her feminist agenda.

Perhaps Cleopatra was a Greek soldier in drag?
Catherine the Great was arguably a Polish builder in a wig?
Jack the Ripper was in fact a Somali one legged, Lesbian, Muslim convert?

We can't be 100% sure after all.

edit on 6-3-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

Hhaahah. This post pretty much sums it up. Nothing to see here, move along.