hypocrisy, actually, darkness of soul, the left is silent about Bill Maher's language

reply to post by BubbaJoe


Then should not have agreed to be a shill for the liberal party and go shoot her mouth of in PUBLIC in front of the government. She opened herself up to this and she hasn't shut her big yap since.

Originally posted by babybunnies
Bill Maher is on cable television, people pay extra to get his show and know what to expect when they turn on the TV.

Rush is governed by the rules that regulate the airwaves, just as Bill Maher would be were he to have a similar type of radio show.

I have already explained why this is a moot point and a weak one at best. Given the proliferation of data and wide dissemination of such data, Bill's show is just as "public" as Rush's. Actually there is a current court case going on that would eventually spill over to possibly include radio because of this very fact.

Originally posted by colbe
The uproar over Rush using the term "slut" and "prostitute."

Bill Maher calls Sarah Palin the vilest of words on his national T.V. program. I won't say it, you can look it up.

Share other examples, I heard on tape today, two of them. The Godless left, they are the walking dead. Take a moment and say a prayer for their conversion.

You know, OP, I agree. There appears to be a double standard here.

You have many pointing out differences, sure. But what i comes down to is this.
One person is given free reign to say whatever he wants.
The other person isn't.

Originally posted by nunya13
reply to post by Under Water

 

You, being a woman who takes birth control, should know that how much sex you have has absolutely nothing to do with how much birth control you take. The fact that you even said that makes me question if you are really a either a female or on or have ever taken birth control.

Oh yes honey, I'm a REAL woman, and your ignorance disgusts me. First of all, birth control doesn't universally mean "The Pill". Part of what Rush was saying was affording condoms. He even talked about how easy it is to get free condoms. And if you don't like condoms, then go BUY the pill. And yes, I would love if my birth control was paid for by my insurance since it helps me with other cycle problems, not just in avoiding pregnancy, but it doesn't pay for it. However, you don't see me running around like a sissy crying about how others should foot my bill because my insurance won't pay for it. Again, YOU ARE MISSING THE ENTIRE POINT OF ALL THIS!

Rush said point blank, that if i, as a woman want insurance to cover my monthly birth control cost (though i refuse to take it for persnal reasons unless medically necessary) then i am a slut and a prostitute.

And this is how it all starts. You are soooo misquoting him. You have completely distorted the facts. I listened all day to this program and that is not at all what he said. He called her that because she expected US, US to pay for it!!!! The complaint was, insurance won't cover it, so someone else should pay for it, because god forbid she goes out and pays for it herself.

And yes, she is a whore, a media whore. She put herself out there, now she can put up with the backlash.

reply to post by Under Water


Amen sister!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by sageofmonticello

 

I don't think they are doing anything wrong either. Rush is a conservative right wing guy, his base is VERY pro PC. He put his foot in his mouth and his own fans, advertisers and sponsors turned on him, not the left.

He has himself to blame for saying something he probably should not have, considering his position/audience.

It's expected of Bill Maher to be crass, joke around and call people names, he's a comedian, not a political commentator or pundit. Although I suppose you could brand him that way.

~Tenth

Sadly though Maher is treated as if he is a journalist rather than a Cable shock jock looking to be as controversial as he can. Not his fault people don't know the difference however, but still sad. Sad people go to the Comedy Channel for their news from a person who likely would call them stupid also.

These folks are what they are. The audience and advertisers determine what they do. Many probably don't know Rush started out doing what he does as satire. It evolved into the other driven by popularity and money. The first time I saw him on TV on a late night talk show, he was wearing an old hippie style hat, had long hair and was basically a left over from the early 70's. I think that was shortly after his show went national and he was paid if I recall something like $14,000 a year. He'd actually remind everyone his banter was satire nearly every day.

Maher is what he is. Shock for money. Hopefully parents are smart enough to use a parental block on the Comedy Channel or care enough about their children to block it. Maher is mild compared to other stuff there.

reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms


im not american nor do i directly care about american politics but looking from outside in, Maher is a comedian with political material. This Rush guy is a serious political member and represents to a great degree, the party he's so proud of. Maher treats everything as a joke, because hes a purposeful clown, and he admits to just as much. Rush is deliberately vicious and serious.

You go get a republican comedian to make fun of the liberals and im all ears because good material is funny. Rush however, is not a comic. Different boundaries. Its like a white comic making black jokes that cross the racism line, or vice versa. Everything has boundaries, and different people have different ones depending on how they present themselves to the public. Maher is a clown. Whats Rush?

reply to post by ownbestenemy


I didnt say anything that maher said was okay or defend it. I was only making comparisons. I care for bill maher But as much as i care forrush because they are both repulsive witht their vitriol.


Rush's comments highlighted the double standard that women have to deal with in a lot of areas in their life from having a career to their sex life. This touched on a nerve. Not nly that but his three day rant centered around untruths and myths regarding birth control in order to validate his calling women sluts and prostitutes. Women are tired of this and chose jumped on the opportunity to let this be known. Fewer women can relate to breast feeding in public and therefore, the level of outrage born from unity is lacking from that perspective. Most can relate to being called a slut as a way to publicly humiliate them regardless of how much sex they have had.

Finally, Rush's intentions were to skew the entire debate by making ad himnem attacks on a single woman wo was speaking on behalf of many others. Maher saying that women should keepmtheir breats hidden serve to try to keep women from showing himmtheir breasts in public, not publicly humilate one single woman who spoke her mind.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by colbe
The uproar over Rush using the term "slut" and "prostitute."

Bill Maher calls Sarah Palin the vilest of words on his national T.V. program. I won't say it, you can look it up.

Share other examples, I heard on tape today, two of them. The Godless left, they are the walking dead. Take a moment and say a prayer for their conversion.

You know, OP, I agree. There appears to be a double standard here.

You have many pointing out differences, sure. But what i comes down to is this. One person is given free reign to say whatever he wants. The other person isn't.

Kinda like the leftist's leader, but what is next? Mr. Progressive, meaning Socialist. Mr. Marxist Obama told his students at Harvard, I will control health coverage and then I can control everything.

BHO bows to China, he will soon mandate their one child policy. Less
cost for the insurance companies, a benefit, Kathleen would agree...

But but...children are a blessing.

reply to post by colbe


And Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorn said "we will have the presidency"

And then they met Obama...ta da!!

Originally posted by buggy166
reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms

 

Maher is a clown. Whats Rush?

Someone with the same rights to free speech as Maher.

reply to post by Under Water


It's interesting how people scream for free speech until they want to silence somebody themselves.

This whole thing is to divert attention from the gas prices anyway. Obama even made a woman's college cancel their keynote speaker and let him take over to keep this going. It's just American politics at its worst.

It's hardly an American thing however. I get a kick watching video of the Parliament in the UK also. Although the fist fights the Russians have is cool as well.

Not being a Partisan I can enjoy the madness from both Parties equally.

reply to post by Under Water


i think he was talking about the pill. His calculation about how many times a woman would have to have sex in order to spend $3000 in afew years was direct response to Fluke's claim that that is what the cost of the pill would be for a college student throughout her time at school.

Your claim that he was referring to condoms as well is confusing because no one is trykng to have condoms covered by insurance, that i know of. This is strictly about hormonal contraceptives that can also be used for medical purposes.

I'm sorry, i've ran out of time to continue the debat for now....

Originally posted by buggy166
reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms

 

im not american nor do i directly care about american politics but looking from outside in, Maher is a comedian with political material. This Rush guy is a serious political member and represents to a great degree, the party he's so proud of. Maher treats everything as a joke, because hes a purposeful clown, and he admits to just as much. Rush is deliberately vicious and serious.

You go get a republican comedian to make fun of the liberals and im all ears because good material is funny. Rush however, is not a comic. Different boundaries. Its like a white comic making black jokes that cross the racism line, or vice versa. Everything has boundaries, and different people have different ones depending on how they present themselves to the public. Maher is a clown. Whats Rush?

Hi, not to argue but to question...

There are "boundaries" as you say...

Some of the replies and yours are saying "comedy" is the excuse to say anything you want without judgment meaning, to call sin a sin. That's wrong. It's known as a sin of omission.

I should look up the meaning of calumny to share....

One exception...

Maher has been called on his profaning Our Lord, he doesn't stop.


God bless you buggy166,

reply to post by Under Water


No actually you are the one that missed the point of it altogether. The fact that you are clueless to what the debate is about proves it. The fact that you somehow think that this woman was in front of Congress testifying that her sex life is so expensive she wants you to subsidize it for her proves it. The fact that you think that the debate has anything to do with condoms or sex at all proves it. None of her testimony before Congress was about the availability of condoms for recreational sex. Which is what Rush intended his listeners to believe about it. Her testimony was about the lack of coverage for prescribed birth control and the fact that it should be treated as any other prescription because it is used to treat other real medical conditions. [snip] And took Rush's word for it on a topic that could very well prove detrimental to your own health. But go ahead and let Rush tell you how it really is, the only one your going to hurt is yourself.

Originally posted by KeliOnyx
reply to post by Under Water

 

No actually you are the one that missed the point of it altogether. The fact that you are clueless to what the debate is about proves it. The fact that you somehow think that this woman was in front of Congress testifying that her sex life is so expensive she wants you to subsidize it for her proves it. The fact that you think that the debate has anything to do with condoms or sex at all proves it. None of her testimony before Congress was about the availability of condoms for recreational sex. Which is what Rush intended his listeners to believe about it. Her testimony was about the lack of coverage for prescribed birth control and the fact that it should be treated as any other prescription because it is used to treat other real medical conditions. [snip] And took Rush's word for it on a topic that could very well prove detrimental to your own health. But go ahead and let Rush tell you how it really is, the only one your going to hurt is yourself.

Oh jesus [snip] christ, seriously..... I wasn't quoting what she said, I was trying to tell her what rush said!!!! What his opinion was!!!!! I never said rush was quoting her, I simply said HE was saying if it's free sex you want, use a condom! but go ahead and assume what you want. rush is a moron, a pig, and a self centered bastard. I hardly agree with him on anything, but when it comes to being sick of everyone wanting us to pay for everything, that's where we see eye to eye. this woman wants insurance to pay for it, great, so do i. this woman expects someone else to foot the bill if the insurance won't, and I'm sorry but that is just absurd.

wow, i really just have to stop and breathe and shake my head at the people who don't READ the posts clearly enough to understand what is being said.

reply to post by KeliOnyx


No, you are wrong.....her testimony was about the government forcing Catholic institutions to cover the cost of birth control under their insurance. Her testimony WAS that someone else should pay for their contraceptives for sexual use. Turn off the media and listen to her words for yourself.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by timetothink


No I am correct and have been following this closely. And yes it originally was a mandate that would force the Catholic institutions into buying polices that had it covered. Which many of them already do anyway, making their protestations irrelevant anyway. The mandate was later changed to that all insurance polices carry it. Same effect different rule. The fact remains Rush was not commentating on the policy or any of the legitimate concerns on the subject at all, he got on the air with his own twisted story meant to inflame the religious right.

Originally posted by sageofmonticello
reply to post by DoNotForgetMe

 

Rush supposedly represents the Republican party...

I wouldn't say that. I think that is going a bit too far. I think to some people on the left, he may represent the Republican party but I think to people on the right he is just a man with an opinion who happens to be a republican. I know many republicans that do listen to Rush and think he is more than a bit extreme with many of his positions. Sort of like for every 10 things he says they like 5 of them.

edit on 5-3-2012 by sageofmonticello because: (no reason given)

Uh... I would say that... and so would George Will.
abcnews.go.com...

ABC’s George Will told me Sunday on “This Week” that GOP leaders have steered clear of harshly denouncing Limbaugh’s comments because

“Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh.”

And OP...you find harsh comments from a left wing comedian and you are going straight to DARKNESS IN THEIR SOUL? In the face of Limbaugh's remarks? Come on now...who is the comedian here?