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Death Gets A Bad Name

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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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Death shows humans some important truths such as:

- Ownership of materialism is an illusion
- Suffering in this world has an end
- Our presence here is short lived
- We all are equal in that we all die

There are probably more truths that death shows, but those are the ones that came to mind recently. Anyways, most of us avoid death and the subject all together because of what death represents. It is not death that is feared but the unknown. No one truly knows what death is about, they can only guess or believe which is just a perception and not absolute truth.

If we want to understand death than maybe we should try to understand what it means to accept what we don't know.




posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ralphy
Death shows humans some important truths such as:

- Ownership of materialism is an illusion
- Suffering in this world has an end
- Our presence here is short lived
- We all are equal in that we all die

There are probably more truths that death shows, but those are the ones that came to mind recently. Anyways, most of us avoid death and the subject all together because of what death represents. It is not death that is feared but the unknown. No one truly knows what death is about, they can only guess or believe which is just a perception and not absolute truth.

If we want to understand death than maybe we should try to understand what it means to accept what we don't know.


Not trying to be a pain, but... Do you have some proof? I mean seriously, you or I may eventually die, but what about them Rothschilds, they just seem to keep going???? And if you don't die, like they may not, I mean there's no proof they were even born, why wouldn't they get to keep their material stuff, they seem to have done so for hundreds of years? What is short lived? Some are far shorter than others and some are way longer? How do you know we are all equal when we die? Maybe we are all in some virtual prison universe and you're on death row and I'm not? Maybe this is all just psychological conditioning in a virtual environment?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

(Winston Churchill, quoted out of context.)

I personally feel that it is not the absolute end; I've had too much evidence to the contrary. It will throw those for a loop, however, who are looking to lay up for themselves treasures on earth and not in heaven, though there can be many possible interpretations to that statement from the Gospels.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:54 PM
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Energy never dies it just converts to something else.
We are energy.
Death is just the act of the energy converting.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more OP! You left out one.........awareness of death, helps us to live, with a capitol L! If you know what you do about death, your doin good kiddo! Do you have personal experience?
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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"Death is the signature on our life's unique self portrait." - Peter Kreeft


If we didn't die, then we would have an infinity of experiences. And since one infinity is no different than another infinity - individual lives would be indistinguishable.

The fact that we die is what makes our limited existence on earth special.

edit on 4-3-2012 by xFloggingMaryx because: grammar



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 06:18 AM
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what u understand about death is who kills u, this is the only and exclusive reason of death as a vision form of negative thing

in truth the awareness goes like that, while the mind dont have the intelligence to clarify or recognize, if one existence is a relative right, then when another can kill someone it says that the right do not exist

which is confirmed by fact of knowing that any relative existence is from killing others relative rights
which confirm that all existence and realities free life are ruled by evil relative one named god

when the awareness is true, which is then a free sense without superior wills or positive means to exist, the brain of the body is its intelligence limitation, so the mind is aware of free sense substance reasons, then the objective limited fact become we, body and mind do not have the right to exist

here the free sense want to stop existing since it is true, if there is no right then existence is not true

while the options of body and mind are different while limited more from being relative to the free sense objectively

so the body accept his form existence only from its fact shape since others shapes exist, so its right in shape of what others shape got, and confirm that fact of way free constancy from clearly meaning positively those in same situation then it, so innocent of choosing existing or having positive means inn, and meaning negatively clearly those that are happy to exist
those means reach to b confirmed of another constancy as real, defining the reality of the body shape, how those that mean to profit from existence are clearly those that mean to destroy others rights
and how those that dont mean anything are free relative rights that are superior in ways of deal their reality as a whole while out of it totally positively

the mind which is more close to the true present constant freedom, from subject proximity to the awareness with wide perspective of all objective that body is part of, so react differently from being less concerned about the fact that only the body is really present inn while mean to think the way out of the dramatic situation in truth from true perspective of limited space intelligence to b through
which would give the mind a reality of being for true existence rights that confirm the fact of existence being ruled by evil force and life, but of course the mind cant b that but in meaning relative existence facts from what it knows being relative inherently to existence of only one free sense and from what it knows from being limited reality in space

so the issue of that kind of trio body mind and awareness freedom out, become one paradoxe fact, we are through what is not right
then we cant refute it totally since there are us only through while we cant b but by rejecting it

there the free awareness come to offer help as the only element there that can offer alternative since it is out of all, in suggesting being through free realisations that has nothing to do with anything there, as plus of constancy fact according to body and mind existing state or statements
those suggestions are also free which mean no communications or relations with mind and body while leaving the present constancy sorting all out as one fact existing right

if i point all those details it is exclusively to say that noone have to endure this

first, when existence is not a right then noone should b forced to exist

second, when existence is from evil powerful freedom from rights abuse, then any shape or possible individual move is only to evil life so from its own wills and ways and minds

so there is no point of talking about death from who dies, death is about killers that is all



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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Try imagining yourself as you were when you were a developing fetus, and still nestled in next to your mom's heart inside that placenta. If you'd been aware of where you were, and what your state of being was at the time, you would've believed that what you were experiencing was the whole of your life. Then, as the entire world started getting extremely cramped, and you started feeling as if you just didn't "fit" any longer, you'd start panicking over what was getting ready to happen. If you were one of a set of twins inside there, you might even start discussing the whole thing with your life mate, trying to understand the increasingly difficult situation you're both being forced to deal with.

"Don't worry," says your partner, "it's part of the process. Life begins, it enjoys its season, and then it ends. After that we become like we were before life - an integral part of the existential whole. Feeding the next wave of life with our inimitable experience of having existed."

Of course, you're overwhelmed by the sheer notion of nonexistence after having been granted it - an unparalleled gift if ever there was one - and you become pretty freaked out by the nonchalance of your litter mate and how unenlightened that calm makes you feel to be as terrified as you are, facing what is clearly the obliteration of your own sentience. None of it makes sense to you. After all, why even bother with existence if there's no ongoing reason for all that you've gathered together as growth and development of self. If all it's meant to be is raw experience data for a third party, then how is this entire process anything but a cruel slavery for all that has lived aware, and any more than a cheap substitute for having actually lived for whatever the hell it might be that will be the recipient of all that second-hand experience.

The worthlessness of the entire construct is too much for you to accept, and yet what do you have to replace that repugnant notion with? You've honestly got no idea why the entire world is beginning to battle against your continued survival. Obviously, you've outlived your own viability, and the truth is that you know instinctively that it's all coming to a finish - and that finish seems to be closing in.

Suddenly, you feel violence all around you. Intense pressure. Literal pain. You've never felt pain before. Not real pain. Discomfort, sure, you've felt discomfort, but this is different. This is a clear indication that something's changed, and that this change isn't going to allow your life or your world to ever return to what it once was. Your sibling smiles and tells you that it's been wonderful being your mate in life, and that it's okay..."it's all part of the cycle of life." And suddenly, your mate slips away and you're left alone.

You panic. The one person in the whole world that isn't you has just died. Completely gone, and you have no idea how to deal with it. And it's not as if whatever it is in your world that has become malignant and opposed to everything that you are - that you've made of yourself - has been satisfied as a result of having stolen your only love from you. No, it's now turned its focus squarely upon you, and the pain and pressure is reaching an intolerable pitch. It's becoming impossible to deny that this is the end. Such a cruel and useless hoax to play on anyone, and for what reason? You see no reason. You see no sense in any of it. All you see if that your own universe has turned against you and that it wants you to die. And so you accept oblivion as better than being so profoundly hated, and you willingly surrender to the inevitable. You relax and let the whole miserable process have its way with you. The blackness pulls you deep within and you give yourself to it at long last.

It's cold. It's bright. You're frighteningly exposed. So bright you can't even open your eyes. Inside your chest it's wide open...or at least it feels wide open. Almost cavernous. Inside and outside, so much space. Your legs are spread, your arms are spread, your entire body is stretched in a way that has never happened before. Loud clear, crisp sound ricochets, reverberates throughout your entire head as if it's outside your head and inside your head, and all at the same time. The effect is overwhelming, and you scream.

Yes...YOU scream.

And you realize that you're still alive. Not only are you still alive, but you're more alive than you've ever been. And yes, it's terrifying. But even more than that, it's exhilarating. Your litter mate was wrong. Completely wrong. This wasn't the end of life, this was the beginning of new life. You feel the enormous hands lifting and supporting you. Soft voices. You feel a new surge of love envelop you. Warmth and softness all around you. Yes, your litter mate was wrong. This isn't death. This is life.
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posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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The "Spirit" moves on at death leaving the lifeless physical body behind.

Human beings, and the DNA that programs them, are multidimensional, staggeringly immense bundles of information. As a person and objects move through time, they leave a permanent record that the Hindus called the "Akash". Einstein called it the "time-space continuum", and the Bible calls it the "Book of Life". It includes all "past life" records. A skilled psychic can "read" this record.

So, the Power Elite in control of this world communicate with their dead relatives regularly.

That's how they can plot hundreds, if not thousands of years in advance.

Quite an advantage, wouldn't you say?

Imagine if they used their knowledge for benevolent, humanitarian purposes instead of self-serving nefarious evil?
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posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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i dont deny that i enjoyed reading ur creation, u certainly are a free sense that love objective intelligence, but not far enough to love truth

there is no death sense in absence of evil living, there is no one existence when there is no other, awareness is never of space limits, seeing space limits freedom make ones aware

that is how there will always b nothing and things stillness as long as no freedom is perceived

get use to it since u mean to act for truth, truth is freedom nothing else



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Indeed death does get a bad rap. People are sooo afraid of it! But what's there to be afraid of, the unknown? Because that's what it is. We don't know if it's good or bad, but we're taught to fear it. Not necessarily through instruction, but through example (because we see everyone else freaking out about it).

I think it's funny when people freak out about it. I see death as an inconvenience at worst, and a liberation from this hell at best.

What if death is merely a doorway? When we go into it we call it "death", but when we come out of it we call it "birth".

I see life as a river, flowing, eternal, no beginning or end. The fallacy is that life and death have been treated as opposites for so long.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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what is funny is how u believe knowing smthg from ur perspective of others being through totally different then u

it is absurd

so u dont fear death, while death is known to fear by everyone, that is how u know death and surely everyone opposite to u

euh.. did u ever heard about smthg called truth??? u cannot say smthg that is not the same for another

if death is a true fact, then what fear it is untrue, and who doesnt fear it is true

buttt

if free individual senses are true existing rights, then who fear is true and who doesnt fear is never true

so... from what u said, we could speculate that u love to not b bc u do not exist



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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which prove what i said about death being right

death is exclusively about individuals that dont have the right to exist

wether they belong to nothing perspective knowingly

or they mean positive existence and free will to live experiment so act existing from loving to become selves benefiting from existing ones rights by enjoying the perspective of existing rights in fears and humiliations fancy on all kind of crimes to kill others rights infinitely
in the fancy that if existing right stop existing then they can be the first to enjoy everything they want



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