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Operation: Destroy Ignorance: HAARP,Chem-Trails.

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posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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Nope....since there are no such things as "chemtrails", this is incorrect:


Chemtrails last most part of the day sometimes all day.



Then you wrote:


The higher the altitude the more wind and the colder.


Which is generally a true statement....although there are exceptions, due to the dynamic nature of our atmosphere. It is constantly changing.


But, consider the 'logic' here:

So if it was just a contrail it would quickly cool and disappear.


It's already cooled.....why would it "disappear"? What do you think a cirrus cloud is made of? Yep....tiny, tiny ice particles. Exactly the same ice particles that make up contrails. Ice remains frozen when it's cold, right? So, saying it would "disappear" because it's cold is not logical, nor correct.

Water evaporates, we all know that. Ice "evaporates" too....although the correct term is sublimation (or, phase transition).

Go to your freezer....do you have a tray of ice in there? Have you ever noticed ice cubes that remain untouched in the freezer shrink very slowly, over long periods of time? That is sublimation.

But, sublimation is very, very slow. So, why would ice particles in way below freezing conditions "quickly" disappear? Actually, when I say that sublimation is very slow, that applies in conditions of relatively high humidity.....when the humidity goes down, then the sublimation can occur at a faster rate.

This is what's seen in the short-lived contrails, that fade away within seconds or minutes. The relative humidity (saturation) levels of the air are just on the 'edge' where contrails will form, but once the surrounding air, being so dry, gets to work on them, they will sublimate back to invisible water vapor state.

In other situations, a contrail will last longer, because there is more humidity. In fact, when conditions are very saturated with water vapor "held" in the air, the presence of the cold contrails makes MORE ice particles form....it is a trigger effect, and the contrails spur the formation of other cirrus clouds, which can blend together, and spread out.

Once again, now we have the wind to consider, as to how these clouds will ultimately be affected. And so on....it is, as I mentioned above, a very dynamic situation, at all times.


Now, this same information, and these same facts, can easily be learned (and verified) from any number of reputable sources that discuss the science of contrails, contrail formation, and persistence. These sources are all over the Web, an many are right here in the many threads on ATS, too.


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posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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photoblog.msnbc.msn.com...

Is this the beginning? I remember in school they taught us in only takes 8 mins for sunlight to reach Earth. Why does the explosion take until tomorrow or sometime tonight? An explosion would increase acceleration of any given object. So where did the 8 minutes go?

Or is this an excuse to use HAARP in an experiment?



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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I haven't seen any evidence that suggests chemtrails don't exist and all the evidence that suggests they do!



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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Could this be considered fear mongering since another news site says the explosion won't effect us?

www.whiotv.com...



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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A solar flare and the CME associated with it are not the same thing.
The radiation of a solar flare travels at the speed of light.
The products of a CME travel significantly slower.

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posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:38 PM
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You know light and sound are the samething right? Not trying to start an arguemnet right now! But nothing travels faster then sound!


Good looking out!
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posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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A solar flare and the CME associated with it are not the same thing.
The radiation of a solar flare travels at the speed of light.
The products of a CME travel significantly slower.


And specifically:

en.wikipedia.org...


Coronal mass ejections reach velocities between 20km/s to 3200km/s with an average speed of 489km/s


vs the speed of light, 300,000 km/s



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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You know light and sound are the samething right? Not trying to start an arguemnet right now! But nothing travels faster then sound!

No



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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ELF Effects Brain Patterns

There is evidence that ELF magnetic waves can affect brain waves. This set of experiments was designed to study the effects of ELF rotating magnetic fields on the brain.

The specific ELF frequencies I was interested in studying are 6-10 Hertz. These frequencies are the same as those produced by the human brain in the theta and alpha states. Generally, specific brain wave frequency ranges can be associated with mood or thought patterns.


www.americanlivewire.com...

HAARP has been doing more then the debunkers here are giving it credit for.

Also to back up the beginning of this post. They admitted in one of the videos on page 8, and page 2 same video. Part 2 of the cbc news interview that the russians used ELF waves on the US Embassy!

This link will give you a clue on how you use spirituality against someone.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

You resonate a frequency all one has to do is mess with your frequency. Thats why the people in the Embassy said they were depressed all the time.



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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Yes! Light beam is nothing more then vibrating particles of energy. What causes those particles to vibrate? You guessed it. Sound Wave!

Thats you and I are. Radio Waves. Or antennas depending on how you wanna look at it.


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posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by metalholic
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You know light and sound are the samething right? Not trying to start an arguemnet right now! But nothing travels faster then sound!





ROFL!!


The ATS Motto is "deny ignorance" - try it some time!



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by Phage
 


You know light and sound are the samething right? Not trying to start an arguemnet right now! But nothing travels faster then sound!





ROFL!!


The ATS Motto is "deny ignorance" - try it some time!


Just did!

(1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000, 1 Mhz =1 million. A 1 Hertz wave is 186,000 miles long; 10 Hz is 18,600 miles. Radio waves move at the speed of light.)



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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I believe.... light is a transverse wave and sound wave a is longitudinal. Sound waves cannot be polarised however the light wave can polarised.


The main difference between sound waves and light waves is that electromagnetic waves require no medium to continue their path of travel. They can travel through the vacuum of space from the sun to earth, which is untrue of sound waves.

( light 299 000km/s and sound 343m/s)



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Light is also sound. Anything with electrical out put. Whether it's at the quantum level or physical level ie our reality. Is putting out sound! Modern science has proved it.



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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OH...

Sound and light both travel as waves. The properties of these waves differ quite considerably. Sound waves travel a million times slower than light waves. They have wavelengths between 1 centimetre and 10 metres, and will easily diffract round corners. Light waves have much smaller wavelengths, and only diffract through very small holes. This difference is the reason why you can often hear things that you cannot see.



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by relocator
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OH...

Sound and light both travel as waves. The properties of these waves differ quite considerably. Sound waves travel a million times slower than light waves. They have wavelengths between 1 centimetre and 10 metres, and will easily diffract round corners. Light waves have much smaller wavelengths, and only diffract through very small holes. This difference is the reason why you can often hear things that you cannot see.


I don't know if you got this or not!

(1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000, 1 Mhz =1 million.
A 1 Hertz wave is 186,000 miles long; 10 Hz is 18,600 miles.
Radio waves move at the speed of light.)

Light is a radio wave!



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by metalholic
Light is a radio wave!

Sound is not radio.



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by subject x

Originally posted by metalholic
Light is a radio wave!

Sound is not radio.


At what level?



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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www.cord.edu...

The unit used to measure wave frequency is called the hertz (Hz). The frequency of a wave depends on the frequency at which its source is vibrating. Frequency, which is often used to describe waves, is an important characteristic. Frequency is used to distinguish one color of light from another, as well as one sound from another. For example, red light is different from blue light because red light has a lower frequency.


library.thinkquest.org...



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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Got it!

all forms of EM radiation travel at the speed of light, regardless of their energy.

Well if not...it's cuz I'm delirious and need to go to bed.

nite



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