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You reject
God's gift of Himself in the Eucharist.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by colbe
Says who? You...NTT. How do you know? And now you are using the two words "revere" and "worship." Cancels your saying people worship the Shroud. Stick to your story.
Story? I said if it could be determined 100% it was His then people would begin to worship it.
So why did you say "forget it?" You don't believe it is the burial cloth
of Our Lord?
I don't know if it is or isn't, just saying I don't care. It has nothing to do with our justification, it's a burial cloth. Jesus died for us, the shroud didn't. The shroud stayed in the tomb when Jesus stepped out of it. My faith doesn't rest on the shroud being real or fake.. whatever really.
edit on 12-3-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by colbe
Blessing crackers and wine doesn't change the state of them...
Why do you believe its all about that ritual, as if you're actually eating Jesus' body and blood?
You keep calling reverence worship, it's not
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by colbe
You reject
God's gift of Himself in the Eucharist.
Why did Jesus say to have communion?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by colbe
Blessing crackers and wine doesn't change the state of them...
Why do you believe its all about that ritual, as if you're actually eating Jesus' body and blood?
Look, this is retarded. They get their crackers from the same church suppliers protestant churches use. We use the same crackers, from the same company.
Originally posted by Akragon
Ya but theirs has "christ inside"... do they have a creamy middle or something?
I find the idea of transubstatiation slightly amusing...
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by colbe
You keep calling reverence worship, it's not
That's just it, you're under the false assumption I think all reverence is worship. It's not. You keep saying that, but I never said that. Worship means "worth" + "ship", whatever you ascribe great worth to. Reverence gets very close to worship.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
Ya but theirs has "christ inside"... do they have a creamy middle or something?
I find the idea of transubstatiation slightly amusing...
What does Jesus taste like?
edit on 12-3-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
Ya but theirs has "christ inside"... do they have a creamy middle or something?
I find the idea of transubstatiation slightly amusing...
What does Jesus taste like?
edit on 12-3-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by colbe
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by colbe
You keep calling reverence worship, it's not
That's just it, you're under the false assumption I think all reverence is worship. It's not. You keep saying that, but I never said that. Worship means "worth" + "ship", whatever you ascribe great worth to. Reverence gets very close to worship.
worth + ship....LOL? What?
No it doesn't, they (revere and worship) a are two different words with two different meanings. Look them up.
You shouldn't have falsely said people worship the Shroud. It's not true.
Why have you chosen to reject the Shroud? Is it because it has been
kept and protected by the Church? You should be happy that it was/is....
Can you imagine, 2000 years later Science has stated recently we can't come up with the "light" that passed through the Shroud.
Change NTT, I care.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by 547000
Jesus said to do it to remember Him. It's to remember His sacrifice and shed blood of the new covenant.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by 547000
Can you show me a single verse in the NT where Paul is instructing people that communion is a requirement for salvation? Romans 10 is the chapter on salvation, along with 1 Corinthians chapter 15. Any mention of communion there?