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When he seemed dead on the cross.
Did you read the links?
Rabbi Dahan Levi was born on December 8, 1920 in Morocco. He was the last of six sons. His education started with the study of the Bible. He was so diligent that at the age of eight, he questioned the views given in various commentaries. He began his studies of the Talmud at the age of eleven and obtained admission to the Yeshiva when he was barely fifteen years old.
At the Talmudic University, Rabbi Levi’s inquisitive mind led him to ask questions of his teachers, which sometimes perplexed them. His teachers believed in traditional methods of teaching and endeavoured to persuade him to follow them in theory and dogma. While the teachers laid stress on commentaries, Dahan Levi wished to go to the essence of the scriptures.
A time came when Dahan Levi’s academic discussions earned for him the dislike of his teachers. Instead of answering his questions, they would simply ask him to leave the classroom. However, he continued his theological studies with critical analysis, with the result that he obtained in 1940 the degree of Talmudic Teacher and Rabbin. After long study, he had come to the conclusion that it was easy to understand the scriptures without the help of controversial commentaries.
Rev. Levi now made plans for further study and research into the myths of the Old Testament world but he was called upon to perform compulsory military service. He joined the army and completed his term in Tunis and Libya as a member of the French Legion. During all these years, his heart longed to visit the Holy Land. He was nominated as “almoner to the battalion” in the British Legion, and so he got an opportunity to proceed to Egypt.
Rev. Levi wandered all over the land of the Pharaohs and then travelled in Palestine, Syria and Iraq for three months. He left army service in 1942 and became a Titular of Talmud and ritual sacrificer in the city of Oran in Algeria.
Rev. Levi married in 1948 when he was twenty-eight years old. Another important event in his life was to move to Paris—and his stay there. He took up various jobs and later got an administrative job of the third subdivision in state service. In 1950, he became the Founder President of the “Alliance d’ Abraham,” an organization which aims at the survival of historical links between the three monotheist faiths, Judaism, Buddhism and Islam. It also aims at educating Muslims in the technique of the rite of circumcision..
Rev. Dahan Levi is the Vice-President of the Israeli community from the third administrative subdivision of Paris. In 1972, he was honored with the Decoration of the City of Paris. For his excellent work, he was honored in 1977 with the “Order National du Merite.”
He is a searcher for the truth in history and culture. With the Bible in hand, he visited Occidental Arabia and toured India in 1986. During this period, he visited Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, Agra, Jaipur and Srinagar in Kashmir. It was destiny that he met Professor Fida Hassnain, and they became good friends.
It would be helpful if you gave quotations and maybe someone might believe some of what you are saying. Polycarp knew (supposedly) John, and Ignatius made some remark that sounds like that, meaning acknowledging this relationship.
The Apostolic Fathers were Roman Catholic. Ignatius knew John, Ignatius
believes in the Holy Eucharist. Ignatius, third Bishop of Antioch first
used the term "Catholic."
Actually its not a fast death, its very slow...
and he only hung for a little while..
These people still crucify themselves by choice as an homage to Christ
Isn't anyone reading the links?
why are all your links accurate and credible
Dr. Stein, a world authority for his work and writings in the field of forensic pathology, also had been the head of the pathology department at the Northern Illinois Medical Center in McHenry and was the former director of pathology and toxicology at Abbott Laboratories.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I understand what you're saying... im simply presenting ideas to the mix
Jesus may not have had to deal with asphyxiation because his legs were not broken... that is the idea behind breaking the legs, so they can't stand....
He might have survived...
And even the spear in the side... Flowing blood is a sign of life not death.... in the case of a dead body the heart does not pump blood so a flow of blood and water would not have happened... a dead body's blood flows to the lowest part of the body... which would have been his feet
He may have been able to survive the beatings and the crucifixion... Not saying he did, im saying its possible
Doctors detailing the crucifixion from the details in the gospels. AMA, peer-reviewed medical journal.
Jesus may not have had to deal with asphyxiation because his legs were not broken... that is the idea behind breaking the legs, so they can't stand....
The soldiers could not be faked out,
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
Jesus may not have had to deal with asphyxiation because his legs were not broken... that is the idea behind breaking the legs, so they can't stand....
I'm not sure you understand the physics of a crucifixion. If he didn't stand directly up putting all His weight on the nails through His feet He could not take a breath in. The longer this went on, because of the trauma from the scourging, his lungs and heart sack area were filling with blood and watery substance, and that began to limit His overall lung capacity.
When He was slumped for several minutes 10-20 the Romans knew He was dead. He couldn't have possibly got any oxygen in His lungs without extending Himself up on the nails. You cannot fake not breathing. It's like saying He was held underwater for 20 minutes and he "faked" it.
If you get a free hour sometime listen to the "*WARNING*" link on my sig. If for anything, to get a complete picture of what a Roman execution was life for Jesus with the scourging first. Eye-opening. It's super graphic though, not for any kids if they are in the room.
edit on 10-3-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
What about newly discovered texts, letters, etc. that refute "the gospels" as contained in the Bible?
Anything is possible with God.... remember?
I've brought up my response to that over a month ago.