Originally posted by The GUT
Yeah, I'll stay out of the Catholic/Paganism debate.
I will ask you, as a fellow believer, do you think the Catholic Church is a reflection of the first century church? I don't think so.
The average Catholic is a very good person willing to help others. I personally think Catholics are Christians, although I know quite a few
"Christians" who believe otherwise.
On the other hand I think some--or even all--of the Popes and other "leaders" are in some very real danger come judgement day.
Then again, so am I barring mercy.
Your zealouness is admirable, Colbe, but you don't seem all that familiar with the Bible when it comes to Catholicism and your eagerness to accept
some modern folk as Prophets.
Hi TG, thanks for your kind reply.
If disbelievers would look at the quotes of the first Christians, they would
see their beliefs are the same as the Church teaches today. The trouble
in our time is the loss of believing what the Church teaches.
A comment on your saying "all of the Popes"....
There have been a couple of bad popes, they're known as non-popes.
They were not duly elected. Christ said in Matthew 16:18, He would
not leave His Church. We can trust the Holy Father's guidance.
We know from prophecy and can see Satan has infiltrated the Church, meaning some of the hierarchy in the Vatican (Pope Paul VI's warning). There is
the loss of faith by all Christians, look at the denial about the sin
of contraception in the news so not just Catholic. The loss of faith and morals worldwide these last fifty years is terrible but Satan will not win.
It will look like he has...
There have scandals and schisms all throughout human history, so what, man has a fallen sinful nature. It is God guiding His Church in this end of
time once again while some "fallen men" directed by Satan attempt to destroy her. The Church, like Our Lord, her crucifixion is soon.
With the loss of faith, what can Heaven do but speak through modern
prophets? And Heaven has. I owe my conversion/reversion to one of Mary's messages given through a prophet in the U.S.
Prophecy makes established written and oral divine revelation more explicit. Look to Church teaching, to all of the faith which includes Holy
Scripture, to the prophetic, approved and unapproved, to the grace of the Sacraments, most important for your soul, the Eucharist and Confession.
Protestants, the Orthodox, non-Christians will convert at the Great
Warning. They must persevere then, all of us must through the Great Tribulation.
Oops, I am going on and....you're in the choir. I am really very traditional.
If I could change it, there would be only one Mass, the Tridentine Mass.