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China boosts defence budget 11 percent after U.S. "pivot"

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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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China boosts defence budget 11 percent after U.S. "pivot"


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BEIJING (Reuters) - China will boost military spending by 11.2 percent this year, the government said on Sunday, unveiling Beijing's first defence budget since President Barack Obama launched a policy "pivot" to reinforce U.S. influence across the Asia-Pacific.
The increase announced by parliament spokesman Li Zhaoxing will bring official outlays on the People's Liberation Army to 670.3 billion yuan (67.2 billion pounds) for 2012, after a 12.7 percent increase last year and a near-unbroken string of double-digit rises across two decades .
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Every country in the world seems to be gearing up for something, and it's not just the middle east now. what they are gearing up for is unknown but a climax is soon to follow, maybe China is boosting it's budget for purely defence reasons but why would a country with the largest Army in the world need to boost it's budget when it currently has enough man power and munitions to fight off any invading power.

China, will undoubtedly be the new leading super power once the new budget takes effect.

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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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I hope my country gear up too. Because I have a feeling that USA will soon make a big step to make the world a complete and big mess. It's no surprise for me to everybody to try get ready to defend themselves against the coming storm.
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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True, everyone is gearing up for something big, however, I guess at the same time, everyone is just fed up of what's been going on over the last 10 Years. I guess everyone knows they could be next and they just want to be ready before hand and not perish like other leaders/countries!



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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WW3 has got to be the greatest show on Earth. Go big or go home. No body is at the wheel anymore. Sanity is a myth. Humanity deserves this I guess though. Can't seem to get it right.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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I don't understand the idea that "Everybody is gearing up." Isn't the US defense budget being cut in real terms? The Navy is mothballing ships and Army strength levels will be cut again. I'm Mr. Confusion, and I'm wishing you all a happy day.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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For starters Chinas defense budget has never been accurate. China has been low balling the reported numbers when it comes to their military and a few other budgetary areas for years now. Secondly China is still stuck in the quantity over quality mindset, although they are trying to shift that thinking but it will take time, and a lot of money.


China can field the troops no argument there however when it comes to their navy and air force and force projection outside of China, they are extremely behind the times. One of the stumbling blocks on Chinese intervention / takeover of Taiwan is their lack of transport aircraft and naval assets. Its one of the main reasons China has a crap tone of surface to surface conventional missiles pointed in their direction.

Lastly, China has pretty much pissed off all of Asia, the west because of military and economic policies, and Africa as most people their see China's influence as being worse than colonial days.

Chinas finances arent as stable as they are claiming and have been nailed a few times now for under reporting / failing to report debt, which has been estimated to be close to almost a trillion dollars.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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This still even isnt a tenth of the U.S "defence" spending though, pffft, not even a fifth of what America spends.

America spends over a trillion dollars a years, that we know about. You could probably quadruple that number with what he dont know. Same could be said for China I guess.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by TheGreatest


Every country in the world seems to be gearing up for something, and it's not just the middle east now. what they are gearing up for is unknown but a climax is soon to follow, maybe China is boosting it's budget for purely defence reasons but why would a country with the largest Army in the world need to boost it's budget when it currently has enough man power and munitions to fight off any invading power.

China, will undoubtedly be the new leading super power once the new budget takes effect.


Nobody is gearing up for anything as far as I can see. China should be increasing its budget just for the fact their military is so vast. They have a huge military, but they don't have the budget to upgrade to more modernized weapon systems and provide them to each soldier. They also need to improve their lack of a navy, their ground and air vehicles, etc. They also need to account for logistics such as fueling, feeding their troops, ammunition, etc. There is a lot that goes into maintaining a military that huge, and right now with a budget 1/8 the size of the US military budget, they should increase their spending as much as possible in case something were to happen. As they stand right now, they wouldn't really stand a chance toe to toe with the US. Increasing their budget 11 percent won't help a ton either.

This budget is not going to change anything. There won't be a new leading superpower for quite a while.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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The thing is that China can say anything and no one will really know the accuracy because they run a closed government. No transparency and nothing legally revealed.

We know how much the US spends and we know the defence budget of Luxemburg because both those governments – in common with all of the Western democracies - reveal what they budget for as they have an obligation to the populations they serve. China does not.

Regards



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 06:36 PM
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with how invasion happy the damn americans are I dont blame china one bit..

china's defense spending is a drop in the bucket compared to what the u.s spends every day on its mass murder for fun and profit ... and defense spending.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by charles1952
I don't understand the idea that "Everybody is gearing up." Isn't the US defense budget being cut in real terms? The Navy is mothballing ships and Army strength levels will be cut again. I'm Mr. Confusion, and I'm wishing you all a happy day.


Hey Charles... I believe that the $487 billion from my research is indicated to be savings accrued by not continuing the wars.
Not real time dollars.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Well said... China is so far from becoming a world power they aren't even in the same century.

And I believe you're correct regarding their debt... it is insanely huge and China has little means to produce income as their industrial complex is being rejected daily by other countries due to poor quality control and poor manufacturing standards.

I just had a conversation with a pharmacist friend of mine this past week and the US, approximatley three months ago suspended purchasing and the import of pharmaceuticals into the US due to extremely poor manufacturing and incredibly bad quality and gave all the contracts to India.


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posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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People are confusing amount of money required to spend to defend themselves and money required to invade another country. US military budget is an empire approach size aka invasion. Most countries don't want/need that pornographic amount for their defense.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 01:57 AM
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The military budget would probably be for the Space Academy as well as the stealth fighter J14 and a few more Type 52D destroyers. Definitely for R&D and not for pay raise. China presently already have the capability for defence issues and I don't think China wants to be the next world policeman. China would make a bad policeman if you ask me. Does not get involved in other people's messes and likely to stay out of other countries conflicts.By now everyone should know having seen China's stand on conflict issues.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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China desperately is trying to lay catch up. As far as defence only I dont see it personally. They are concentrting on areas that would indicate extended over seas operations / force projection. The fact they are dumping loads of money into naval upgrades, specifically aircraft carriers, in an effort to move their navy from brown water to green/.blue water, would suggest they are serious about their claims in the South China Sea and have no intentions of backing down.

Chinas main issue with upgrading its military, as others pointed out, is its immense size coupled with the fact they have to import technologically advanced platforms. They can either rely on those countries to continue providing the needed tech / material or try and reverse engineer it, which they have done, much to the irritation of the countries who jsut had their tech ripped off.

Currently China is giving the impression of being lost in my opinion... Goals are being set for their military but the timetables are unrealistic in the sense that China will need to screw over what little friends they have left in order to become self sufficient in the needed techs.

With the economic issues on the global scale and Chinas industruies having issues with safety, I dont see China being able to sustain their level of modernization without massive issues showing up. To an extent, for major infrastructure improvements in china, we are already seeing major issues arise.



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