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"Menengai" is a Maasai word that means "corpse", the crater cliff is said to be the site of an ancient Maasai battle during the 19th century, and people were thrown off the hill to their death. The crater has been active until 1991, and during the last eruption, it killed many people. It is believed by the locals to be home to many demons and ghosts and is referred to by the kikuyu of central Kenya as Kirima Kia Ngoma, "the mountain of devils". There were many unexplained mysteries associated in the crater, people have been found to be strayed and lost their ways, and some disappeared mysteriously.
The transcript also shows Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington as a "nonresident citizen," which meant she would not be able to take advantages of the tuition breaks she should have been able to receive if she had continued her studies as a resident student at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Barack Jr. apparently was only a few days old for the travel from Hawaii to Seattle. In deciding to take her child and move to Seattle, Ann Dunham abandoned her husband, Barack Obama, who stayed behind in Hawaii, evidently to continue his studies at the University of Hawaii. This now-documented account of President Obama's birth timeline differs dramatically from the narrative the president told in his autobiography "Dreams from My Father." In that book, Obama claimed his mother remained with him in Hawaii until 1962 when supposedly Barack Obama Sr. made the decision to abandon Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii because Harvard did not provide sufficient funds for him to take his family with him to Cambridge, Mass., to begin his studies in September 1962. Ann Dunham's transcript from the University of Washington shows she continued to take classes there through the spring term 1962, which suggests she not only abandoned Barack Obama Sr. in Hawaii, but also that she remained in Seattle to continue her studies there well into 1962. Stuart Lau, registrar at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, confirmed that Dunham attended the fall term 1960 and did not resume studies at that university until the spring term 1963. Lau also confirmed that Barack Obama Sr. attended the University of Hawaii at Manoa from the fall term 1959 through the spring term 1962. This confirms the conclusion that Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. never lived together as man and wife after the birth of Barack Obama Jr. Members of the snack bar crowd at University of Hawaii don’t remember the Obama-Dunham relationship. Hal Abercrombie said he never saw them together. Pake Zane could not recall Ann from those days but had precise memories of Obama. In 1964 Ann files for divorce from Barack Obama Sr. and he signs the papers, although these divorce papers have never been seen, as with all other records pertaining to their marriage. Ann Dunham falls in love with another foreign student, Lolo Soetoro of Indonesia. Soetoro met Ann Dunham in 1963 at the East-West Center while both were students at the University of Hawaii. In 1965 Soetoro and Dunham are married in Hawaii. Lolo returns to Indonesia. Several months later with Ann and Barack. They live in Lolo's house, on the outskirts of Jakarta, the Indonesian capital. Power failures are frequent and paved roads are rare. Lolo is promoted and moves the family to a better neighborhood.
Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
...or....... the whole concept of the antichrist is religious nonsense and nothing will come of it. thus obama cant be the antichrist, because such a thing will never exist
Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by timetothink
That scenario sheds some possibilities that Obama Sr. may not be the Father.
Only a DNA test will verify everything.
Will Obama do THAT ?
Now obama has to submit to dna testing?? It never ends.....edit on 6-3-2012 by bknapple32 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LordDrakula
How much more can people take ?? Fake President, elections 2012 will be set up, hated by the world because of the Presidends that love war, money and oil, ...
It's time to wake up ....edit on 4-3-2012 by LordDrakula because: (no reason given)
except for one, small problem, that nobody here is addressing....false or not...he never explains how he could be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, as is demanded by our Constitution
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Originally posted by research100
no, I was not speculating, that info is from the airline industry about how many miles to go, how expensive it was to travel back then. airchive.com...
This 1959 Map of Pan American Flights confirms that a realistic route from Honolulu to Nairobi involves booking connecting flights. The 1969 Map of Flight Routes shows that Pan American World Airways had no flights into Nairobi, Kenya of any of the adjoining countries on the African East Coast. However, BOAC had flights into Nairobi in 1954. This means a trip from Honolulu to Nairobi would involve coordinating flights from at least two separate airlines.
Honolulu Hawaii to Los Angeles California: 2558 miles
Los Angeles California to New York, New York: 2444 miles
New York, New York to Gander Bay Canada: 1116 miles
Gander Bay Canada to London England: 2344 miles
London England to Cairo Egypt: 2180 miles
Cairo Egypt to Nairobi Kenya: 2194 miles
Total Distance: 12,836 miles
how is this speculating? this info is from the airline company.
edit on 5-3-2012 by research100 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by bknapple32
I’m assuming the only way to get stars on the ats is to create habitual lying threads on obamas birth certificate, and ride Ron Paul’s band wagon…even if it’s a lie and has no conclusive evidence.
Anything for stars, I guess!
I am also assuming the mod that pinned this to the top is either a birther or a republican, don’t understand how lies can reach the top of the page, not understanding.
I made a thread about why certain threads that are based on hoaxes arent thrown in the hoax bin and instead remain o nthe front page of ats... Check out my profile and look it up there, I think youd be interested....
On topic.. That same mod should have noticed that this was the millionth thread on this subject. We can still debate if this is all true or not, but why do we have to do so on 5 different threads of THE EXACT SAME TOPIC. Mods will quickly remove a post for being off topic, but making a 16th thread of the same birther issue in a 5 day timeframe, apparently is fine and dandyedit on 4-3-2012 by bknapple32 because: (no reason given)edit on 4-3-2012 by bknapple32 because: (no reason given)