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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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I am using collusion and so far it doesn't seem to be showing anything. But since is it a cookie issue, it could be for 2 simple reasons. I know it is a real pain in the arse but I am finding it really worth the hassles. You would not believe the crap that gets dumped on your computers just from cookies alone.

Some years ago I had learned somethings about cookies that I have since forgotten all about. At that time I set my browser up to ask me about every single cookie. I only have like 4 or 5 cookies that I allow. sites like this site I only allow session cookies and everything else I absolutely denied.

I also run a addon for Firefox called Better privacy and delete cookies from there many times through out the day also. Youtube is really really bad at loading your system up with macromedia cookies.

I know sitting there clicking deny all day long can be a real pain in the backside. But if you realized just how many cookies were set just from one site alone. I would think you would take the time to do this also. Just think how many you can get blocked that will never bother you again..

I also know it can be a pain in the backside when you decide you want to make a purchase at some site but you can't because you blocked their cookies. If your privacy is that important then it won't bother you going in and delete that denied cookie and allow session so you can now make a purchase, or just make a call.
If it is not a site I will be frequenting I then go back in and deleted that session cookie and reset it denied.

I KNOW this is a pain. It really matters how much your privacy means to you on whether you will take the time needed to protect yourself as much as you possibly can.

I will continue to check this addon out more. Could it be one of my other addons that are blocking this? Could be. But what ever I got seems to be working fine


Every little bit helps


~Babbling Idiot~

Thank you for telling me about Do Not Track Plus - Added to my arsenal.
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:25 AM
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after firing up ATS and getting to this page via subscribed I got 3
1.doubleclick.com a marketing research group doubleclick
2. Tribal fusion which is also a marketing research group tribalfusion
3.google.com which speaks for itself.

as a business it is OK for a site to look for the best revenue making advertising oportunities.
It will not stop me clicking ATS, but it will keep me on my toes exactly where I go

funny that if I click on presstv as a link I get nothing at all



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by munkey66
after firing up ATS and getting to this page via subscribed I got 3
1.doubleclick.com a marketing research group doubleclick
2. Tribal fusion which is also a marketing research group tribalfusion
3.google.com which speaks for itself.

as a business it is OK for a site to look for the best revenue making advertising oportunities.
It will not stop me clicking ATS, but it will keep me on my toes exactly where I go

funny that if I click on presstv as a link I get nothing at all


presstv gave me google,faceboook and twitter..



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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Its the ones you don't see but know that are there that should concern you the most.



But if you want to have some fun, start navigating through some .gov sites and see how interesting it gets then and although we all know that noone goes into porn sites, but nevertheless go through some of them and see how interesting it gets...Keep in mind ppl, i did say to view the cookies and not the videos...



But as a member mentioned earlier and yeah it stands to reason that this site need's to pay for its services for it to maintain alive, now if thats a good or bad thing thats obviously open to discussion and in reality and in my books, if someone is against ads on ats and cookies then i suggest ring up the network and head over to the offices with a cheque and begin filling out the numbers inorder for it to stay alive and feed those who are being fed from this.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by cerebralassassins
Its the ones you don't see but know that are there that should concern you the most.



But if you want to have some fun, start navigating through some .gov sites and see how interesting it gets then and although we all know that noone goes into porn sites, but nevertheless go through some of them and see how interesting it gets...Keep in mind ppl, i did say to view the cookies and not the videos...



But as a member mentioned earlier and yeah it stands to reason that this site need's to pay for its services for it to maintain alive, now if thats a good or bad thing thats obviously open to discussion and in reality and in my books, if someone is against ads on ats and cookies then i suggest ring up the network and head over to the offices with a cheque and begin filling out the numbers inorder for it to stay alive and feed those who are being fed from this.


Or they could get a real job like the rest of us and shut it down.. lol..
All this ad garbage is pointless to people like me, Im just not going to run out and buy some BS compulsively because I saw it on ATS, or see some stupid movie that strangles the site when I open it.. Surely there are better ways other than pawning off people to advertisers and making them angry to make money.. I dont know have any suggestions however.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 04:13 AM
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Anyone using FireFox needs to type About:config into the Url and then click the 'Here be dragons' button and to then search for the word 'Google'

Edit all the Google Urls so they point to dead links

Google all but owns firefox not that IE is much better it just reports back to another spy master

3rd party cookies still work in IE7+ so long as the add-servers send a P3P in the header of the reply and Google use this back door and yet there policy does not meet the standards required and microsoft are taking them to court over this.

You can also send a 'DNT' (Do not track) in the HTTP request but it only goes in the bin

Google is the big one you need to block and learn to delete your Flash Shared Objects and make sure flash can not turn your camera on.
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 04:59 AM
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I don't think that by blocking trackers and cookies is anything like blocking AD's. Every site should have a button that disables tracking, pop ups, pop unders, the "cover your page" type AD's with a hidden "x" button and the "AD's" that trick you by saying your computer is infected start scan now?

I think the big push away from IE6 was partly due to the fact that its easier to show more annoying AD's when you have more options (fade in, fade out, hide tracking pixels, AD frames!, flash AD's and the like). I have IE6 and can tell when sites use something sneaky as it works in firefox but not in IE6, sometimes its an AD that breaks IE6 and sometimes its facebook/twitter buttons that do it.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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Well, we aren't charged a thing for Membership. If you look at the stats for total members, people online at any given moment and post volume, I assure you it's far from free to run this place. There might even be a tech who gets paid in there somewhere...or two or three.
I'd say that is the commercial reason.

On a totally unrelated note...It is ironic that ATS, being the topical place it is, is watching us watching everyone else more than everyone else is watching us, watching.



ATS is part of a media company. This place makes money it does not lose money or break even.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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Great add on, was about to post then did a search and found this existing thread. Added to my firefox add ons.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 08:56 AM
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I only got quantserve and google


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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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While I am sure that SO will have much more to say on this, let me clarify a few of the sites mentioned that, apparently, we link to.

google - duh. how else will anyone find ats when they google?
google+ - there's a google+ button on the site now so it has to link back to that
quantcast - quantcast, like alexa, is an information site that shows traffic and other stats on websites
gorilla nation - advertising. they provide us with some of our ads
doubleclick - see above
tribal fusion - see above
and so on. we have a variety of ad networks so each one will wind up on the list.


as to the gent who said that, since there's no way we would know if someone is blocking ads, you are correct and, yet, our members love to announce it in every thread that ads are discussed. We are relying on our members to honor that condition and, in return, we bring you all the alternative news and conspiracy theory we can, as fast as we can and it's all free.


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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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I'm just about to head out for some much needed exercise (off road cycling on the awesome trails here in Arizona) but will quickly respond and check in later.

We're not hiding anything. All of this is revealed in our privacy policy (linked at the bottom of every page) and we have a large "Ad Coices" button at the bottom of every page.

Without all this, it's impossible for sites like ATS to realize revenue sufficient for operations and growth. ATS is free and always will be. It's our job to present members and visitors with an equitable value proposition such that the services and content more than make up for what's mentioned here.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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I am using ghostery and a number of other addons and it seems that no one is tracking me.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Can someone tell me how ads and cookies are in the same boat. Blocking cookies doesn't get rid of the ads, that I have seen. I am sure ads have cookies too but one doesn't seem to affect the other. . Please correct me if I am wrong.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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I downloaded FF just to test this and OMG!

I don't much about this stuff but I HATE when someone asks me to give them permission to store stuff on my computer. It happens when I watch videos. Not all but most. It doesn't do it on Netflix though.

I have more little tracking circles than I'd like. I really wish people would stop giving out my information. I get junk mail to a couple email addresses I do NOT use anymore but have them open because they are the log in for sites like ATS and a couple others. My phone company, ATT already gave most the world my phone number. I try and clear cookies but I don't really know how all this stuff works. I just know it is kind of annoying and it shows the tracking because the ads that pop up on any site are specific to things I search. I have always found that creepy.

I am aware that with the more the internet becomes what it is the less privacy I will have. Oh well. I still like my internet and I have nothing to hide in what I search. I'd just like it if it was kept between me and Mac!



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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nevermind
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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I use a very similar one for Chrome, called Ghostery

ATS for me is bringing up 4/5 different trackers.

Google +1
Google analytics
Gorilla nation
Quantcast



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Chartbeat

And a couple more.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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reply to post by FraternitasSaturni
 
no matter what site you go to your tagged tracked cookied or counted, even the ones that say no tracking , clear cookies out log in and see how many cookies you get

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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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ghostery detects 7 "leaks". since none of them are dangerous and since it probably pays for some of the expenses of ATS





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