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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Vinny5036
Secondly...explain how all three "plumes" fire up at the exact same time hundreds of miles apart.

Multiple agencies conducting prescribed burns under favorable atmospheric conditions for them. Desired fire behavior is to have the fire peak during the middle of the day to mid afternoon, which matches the time stamps in Dutch's videos, and then die out as the atmosphere cools and relative humidity increases in the evening. Most of the plumes were national forest service burns in the national forests in that area. They were documented (location, date of burn, and acres burned) at locations like the following.

Dutch was politely provided with information pointing him to agency burn reports that showed just how many fires were being set daily by state and federal agencies on the days of his videos. Reports such as provided by the Geographic Areas Coordination Centers, National Interagency Fire Center.


3/5/2012 – 3/6/2012
Prescribed Fire Activity: State and Federal lands – 281 prescribed fires for 43,592 acres burned in AL, AR, FL, GA, KY, LA, MS, NC, SC, TX.

Instead of further investigating his hypothesis, he simply deleted all such references and continued to put out the plume vids. He did that even though he lives within easy driving distance of the area where he could have easily gone and checked the agency burn reports with a little personal observation. Why did he not?

edit on 17-7-2012 by scombrid because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 12:28 PM
More on controlled burns such as those depicted in Dutchsinse's Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma vids from March:

Dutch said:
The chances of "wildfires" all erupting AT THE SAME TIME over multiple states.. would either mean a network of arsonists, or a fairly well timed wildfire EACH DAY .. which then magically goes out overnight and half the day.. and then at sunset fires up again. Also, the chances of "control burns" all at the same time across multiple states .. again are minimal...

I personally think this is the sign of an imminent geologic event of larger proportions.

Actually it is quite likley that it is "control burns" all at the same time across multiple states. Land managers follow a pretty specific set of guidelines for prescribed fire. They seek specific atmospheric and fuel conditions for fire, dry but not too dry. That means that when people have prescribed burns planned it is highly likely that they end up burning at the same time if weather is right over a large area as in the sprawling dry high pressure in the 5-March video.

Most of the plumes in Arkansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma are prescribed fire in the Ouachita and Ozark-St. Francis National Forests.

The fires listed match the locations of the plumes in the 3/1 and several of Dutchsinse's other videos. Other smaller fires are likely farmers, state land managers and such also taking advantage of the weather to conduct planned burns.

Regarding the fires occurring at roughly the same time over a wide geographic area. Burns are most effective when relative humidity is below 35% and transport winds and dispersion indices are suitable to clear the smoke. However, fire managers want to avoid uncontrollable fire so they will not seek to burn when relative humidities will remain below the critical point into the night or wind winds are severe. The ideal condition will be such that dewpoints are relatively low and relative humidities of 25-35% are realized during the warmest portion of the day but that temperature will fall off and relative humidities rise in the evening thus damping the fire once the planned burn is accomplished. The result is that fires are lit during the morning and reak peak size and intensity in the early to mid afternoon during the time of maximum diurnal temperature and minimum relative humidity. This is also the time of day when mixing of the lower atmosphere is maximize and transport/dispersal of the smoke is maximized. This is why the smoke plumes in Dutch's videos all appear at around 1700UTC and persist till but start to die down just before it gets dark at around 2230 to 2300. The diurnal synchronization of the plumes that Dutch insists makes it impossible for the plumes to be fire smoke are one of the very things that indicate that the plumes are indeed simply smoke.

Uncontrolled wildfires are even prone to this sort of diurnal fluctuation. We see it in Florida all the time during our fire season. Thermal inversion at night will cause surface winds to decouple from the gradient winds and become calm. The relative humidity at the surface will then approach saturation. The fire will die back and smolder and cause really dense smog, smog that doesn't show brightly on visible satellite either. Then the sun comes up, heat the lower atmosphere and mixes out the inversion, gradient winds and dry air mix down to the surface with relative humidity dropping from fog to 20% in about 4 hours and POOF the fire flares up and starts jumping fire breaks and smoke plumes fly high in the sky an are visible on satellite into the afternoon.

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