The nail in the Evolutionary Coffin, the final spike placed there by the Royal Society itself.

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posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Just to preempt people who think they have developed software that correctly identifies animal faces...
www.maclife.com...

Two cats to choose from, and you have to train the software manually, and the faces are different colors.

Thats not the same as human face recognition software and of course, anyone can identify their own cat by the way it looks if it has identifiers such as colored patches etc.

However people cannot identify their own pet merely from a picture of other similar pets of the same breed.

For instance have you ever had a black lab?

Did he look like this?
www.vivaboo.com...

Without any identifiable features, that is just a generic black lab.

How about cats?
0.tqn.com...

Did you ever see a cat that looked like that?

What about this one...
images.travelpod.com...




posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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Wait. What? What you just described is pretty much the exact opposite of the way science actually works. When a new theory is presented it is still supported by a comprehensive lit review. It is also entirely on the head of creator of this new theory to provide the lit review. Using the method you claimed I could say that, "Everyone who thinks the sky is blue is color blind." Do you really think it is anyone else's responsibility other than mine to prove that statement true?



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Whether or not a computer can do this is of no interest. I have already posted links to studies where primates can discern other individuals by their face.

Your claim is false. You lost out on all 3 claims. They were all easily shown to be false. You struck out.



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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You really think facial recognition is proof against evolution. If anything it is proof for evolution. Facial recognition among humans requires a large portion of the brain. Why do you expect such resources to be wasted on recognizing the faces of other animals when it has impact on human reproduction?

As for the claims regarding software. We have spent decades and millions, if not billions, of dollars trying to create software that can recognize human faces. Even then the software is not perfect. Why do expect facial recognition software designed to recognize faces of other species, a field that is in its extreme infancy, to be as well developed as human facial recognition software?



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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Obviously some peoples faces look very different,like comparing marilyn monroes face to andre the giants, for one extreme example.But we all have two eyes,two ears,two lips,two cheeks,a chin,a forhead,a nose and a mouth,thats a lot of different things to combine and the odds are that most faces will end up looking differently,but some will look the same,just like a lottery game with twenty different numbers involved,theres going to be many millions of different combinational outcomes until someone picks the correct matching numbers.Its not like some people have horns growing out of their faces instead of eyes,or tentacles instead of mouths...

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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Facial recognition software makes many mistakes including mistakes that people would not make such as matching up blacks and whites or matching men with women.

None of that matters when the question is whether or not the faces of different species are different. They are.

Even though the software isn't that good today here it is being used in the wild because animal faces are different.
www.virtualworldlets.net...



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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You really think facial recognition is proof against evolution. If anything it is proof for evolution. Facial recognition among humans requires a large portion of the brain. Why do you expect such resources to be wasted on recognizing the faces of other animals when it has impact on human reproduction?

As for the claims regarding software. We have spent decades and millions, if not billions, of dollars trying to create software that can recognize human faces. Even then the software is not perfect. Why do expect facial recognition software designed to recognize faces of other species, a field that is in its extreme infancy, to be as well developed as human facial recognition software?


The question was how does the theory of evolution explain the fact that humans all have distinct different faces when no other animal has that characteristic.


Frank Borman: - "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good."


If we are descended from apes, then explain how we ended up with distinct identifiable individual faces, and they did not. And why not.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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Here is another scientific study that shows primates recognize each other's faces.
www.sciencedaily.com...

chimpanzees can easily recognize faces of their brethren presented in digitized photographs. This ability to discriminate one group-mate from another has helped chimpanzees evolve to form the most complex of all mammal societies, characterized by individualized relationships, cooperative networks, and stable hierarchies of power.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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The question was how does the theory of evolution explain the fact that humans all have distinct different faces when no other animal has that characteristic.

Your claim that the faces are the same is dead wrong. You are completely wrong.

So when are you going to stop flogging this dead horse and tell us about this Peruvian skull claim of yours.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 12:28 AM
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If we descended from apes,should'nt there still be people who are half ape right now and still in the process of descending from them?...Or is that what bigfoot is?



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
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If we descended from apes,should'nt there still be people who are half ape right now and still in the process of descending from them?...Or is that what bigfoot is?



The argument by promoters of the now defunct evolution theory was that between us and apes was a common anscestor.

That is to say that we both came from a creature that was not ape and not human.


Main Entry: common ancestor
Part of Speech: n
Definition: in genealogy, any person to whom two or more persons claim descent; also, the most recent ancestral form or species from which two different species evolved


Which of course has been proven to be complete hogwash but then when it comes to understanding our past, well we don't have that information. Or if some do, they are not sharing it.

This however is pretty good evidence that Evolutionary theorists never really could explain anything since they always avoided this subject and made false un-scientific claims regarding this obvious evidence.




posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:04 AM
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Arg 1)


Dogs and cats. Despite breed, all dogs are the same species. Complex DNA allows for complex changes in the same life form.

en.wikipedia.org...

Do you remember when you were born?

So how do you expect Mankind, who wrote the bible, to describe his own birth?

I can describe my own birth. But if you do some research, I am sure you will find a much more understandable answer.

End point.
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by badconduct
Arg 1)

Dogs and cats. Despite breed, all dogs are the same species. Complex DNA allows for complex changes in the same life form.

en.wikipedia.org...


Wow I used to have a dog that looked just like that.

What were you saying again?

Oh yeah, how are we supposed to know where we came from? Well I think the idea of scientific investigation is supposed to shed some light on that subject or else we are down to what we are told by alien contact or by people who speak to God or the Gods.

If there is anyone on earth who should know, it is me. I am an alien scientist. I do not have an elongated skull, I merely reincarnated here. I am an Anunnaki.

How do you suppose I could prove that to anyone? When I look just like everyone else. I was born to normal human parents.

Now without going too far in depth as to all this which would take a very long thread of its own, I asked my contacts out there, what is up with the cone head skulls, after a scientist asked me that question.

I will show you the reply. But first, if I showed you an email, how would you know if it was really from out there?
You would think it was from some friend down the street correct? Correct.

So that you know it is not just mere talk, they imprinted the imagery on the face of the planet, and you can see it from space.

So here is my email, from home, regarding the question what is up with the conehead skulls in Peru...
www.imagebam.com...

So what that says is, in basic terms, that they are from the galactic mainframe.
In normal English, they are galactic not universal as in not Anunnaki.
This is a Titan galaxy, so they are Titans, but they are not the normal Titan body type, which would be like Italian or Spanish etc.
As opposed to Olympians who are local to this solar system, and look like your basic Anglo-saxon.
A typical American of Anglo-saxon descent would be a descendant Olympian.

So the cone heads, are not from here, but are either from inside the moon, or perhaps from Mars.
Now the genes of them may have mixed with earth people and so now occasionally you get a person with a recessive gene, that results in cone headedness or elongated skulls.
The rest of their body plan is the same as homo sapiens.

Now if it was the result of low gravity, or artificial gravity, then other parts of their body would also be different.
Their body shape is the same as anyone from this gravity otherwise.

So now then what about time travelers? Well there is no evidence that in our future we have big heads.
There is no indicator that humans are moving in that direction.
And I am a time traveler. But Anunnaki do not bring their bodies with them. We know about physics and know that the universe is expanding and so is matter expanding so the size of things would be different.

Well what about cheating with all that and just using the matrix? Ok, then the galactic mainframe which is projecting this galaxy, can do that. It is making this galaxy in real time according to the laws of physics and a programmer can write code and inject code into the matrix.
Also the universal mainframe can transport physical beings across the universe like they do in Star Trek.
But the chances of these things happening to this degree are very slim, since that is not how the system is suppose to work. The laws of physics are supposed to be obeyed and the time lines left intact.
If this is the result of things done by either the galactic mainframe or the universal mainframe it is the same as saying God is changing things.
Which is the 3rd possibility, God did it.
So what are they saying in the galactic mainframe? They are saying they want to play too, they are here like that because that is how they feel comfortable in their body type, and they too want to find a soul mate if possible like everyone else here.
Zeus sent me an email with him with a cone head and his comment was that he was here, did not like the body plan that existed, and changed the body plan to look like Anunnaki because the women are more attractive.
As opposed to lets say Olmec women which are well look like this...
upload.wikimedia.org...

So you see the information I have is quite private, and not something you could publish in a paper.
And they did not go into detail except to suggest that genetic manipulation by Zeus, resulted in the current body form. Zeus also is an Annunaki. I will show you a picture of my grandmother as she is Zeus' mom and my grandfather is behind her and he does look weird because she is saying he is a bit high strung.
www.imagebam.com...
Thats a hat not a conehead. Soooo maybe I was a conehead 2 million years ago, and maybe not.
But as an Anunnaki back home, we look like people do here because the people here were genetically made to look like Anunnaki by Zeus, who is an Anunnaki. Thats all I know.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 02:37 AM
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Another thing they are saying is that a persons appearance reflects their character.

And that is why we are predominantly different in appearance from each other because it reflects our own unique character. That which identifies us as a person.

How you want to interpret that is up to you. How they mean it is that you can tell a lot about a person by the way they dress, by the expression on their face, by the way they look. For instance a T-Rex is clearly not a friendly animal and it looks unfriendly. You don't have to wonder if you see one if it might be dangerous, you know it is.

Why we have different faces has to do with how the system is supposed to work. It was designed by Anunnaki, who travel around without their body, and beam their minds into blanks who are on autopilot.
Lets call them puppets.
They have no personality file of their own, they are there for use by Anunnaki to beam into as a means of travel.
When you get there, you want to be recognized for who you are and so you have similar people who look similar at your destinations, and when you meet other Anunnaki there, you can identify each other easily since you look familiar.
And that even goes for earth where people reincarnate, but they are reincarnated into similar types so you can recognize them over lifetimes and find each other with a little help. And hence you do not need all your memories all the time, but a smaller set of long long term memories to keep in touch with people who are either family or close friends across life times.
It is also for when you meet someone, instinctively, you size them up and decide how to approach them.
By over time learning how people act as opposed to how they look. And of course it goes deeper and gets more complex but thats a huge subject.
In terms of scientific proof, well it seems whatever proof of the distant past shows up it is often hidden.
I really don't know why the past is censored as it is.
Hidden archeology and OOPARTS and all of that should be part of the scientific paradigm but I guess the earth is too young to understand and accept how things really work. Or something. I prefer to think it is not due to some evil that exists making it so. I expect there may be a valid reason even if I personally do not agree with the situation. Some prefer not to know maybe, and some prefer to believe and keep it simple, but many like myself would like to know more.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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Meet the sloths - each one a unique and adorable little gem





posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 04:40 AM
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Sorry I can't seem to find the 3 good arguments you were talking about. Maybe you forgot to post them, if not could you direct me to where they are.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 05:46 AM
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As a reply to arg1 in the OP I wonder what it would be like
If humans did not shave their faces or cut their hair ever?
Facial recognition software might have a harder time identifying
Two men with a face full of beard and three feet of hair over their
face. As for animals, Imagine if we shave the faces of two golden
Retreivers or two chimpanzees, would we see subtle asymmetries
That would allow our eyes to tell them apart?



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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Which of course has been proven to be complete hogwash but then when it comes to understanding our past, well we don't have that information. Or if some do, they are not sharing it.

This however is pretty good evidence that Evolutionary theorists never really could explain anything since they always avoided this subject and made false un-scientific claims regarding this obvious evidence.

This is nothing but opinion. Where is your evidence?



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 06:08 AM
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That was a lot of meaningless gibberish.

You've been shown wrong all across the board by scientific studies. You struck out.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 06:11 AM
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Another thing they are saying is that a persons appearance reflects their character.

Who stated that, some washed up phrenologist?


Why we have different faces has to do with how the system is supposed to work. It was designed by Anunnaki, who travel around without their body, and beam their minds into blanks who are on autopilot.

Faces are different because no two organisms are the same.

Do you have any evidence for the existence of Annunaki? No. Why? Because it is a fairy tale for the gullible.





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