If you get free birth control, I should get free beer

The issue of contraception returned to the fore of American politics last month after the Obama administration was forced to back down on plans to force employers to provide contraception for their employees.

Mr Obama's call is a symbol that Democrats believe contraception is potent issue they can use to their advantage in the upcoming elections.

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Regardless of where you land on the issue of contraception insurance coverage, Mr. Obama could not have picked a worse poster girl than Ms. Fluke to bring the issue to the forefront. I mean, what was he thinking?

More importantly...I'll take pretty much any Northwest brewed IPA.

Originally posted by beezzer
Are you suggesting that the government provide females (or males) for sex just so people wil behave better in society?

Behave? Is not about behavour

at least not anywhere out side the bedroom.

Happy is a mood and sad is a mood

Depression is a medical issue, and crime is illegal

Free condoms and a few cheap pills, while controling birth rate, reducing some STDs and generally controling the future needs of the society...

Heck yeah worth it.

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Rant

Oh that's just wrong. Why not social issues ? I'm sure ATS has it's reasons Schuy but like you I disagree.

Wait a minute. Seems to me this happens to topics when it's hard to define what would be off-topic.

So it actually frees up the different ways the topic can go ? Maybe ?

Originally posted by randyvs
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Oh that's just wrong. Why not social issues ? I'm sure ATS has it's reasons Schuy but like you I disagree.

edit on 3-3-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

Dude relax, half of the title is about free beer lolololol

2nd

Originally posted by Biigs

Originally posted by beezzer
Are you suggesting that the government provide females (or males) for sex just so people wil behave better in society?

Behave? Is not about behavour

at least not anywhere out side the bedroom.

Happy is a mood and sad is a mood

Depression is a medical issue, and crime is illegal

Free condoms and a few cheap pills, while controling birth rate, reducing some STDs and generally controling the future needs of the society...

Heck yeah worth it.

Free condoms and a few cheap pills, while controling birth rate, reducing some STDs and generally controling the future needs of the society...

It's not free. Tax payers are being asked to subsidize, hence the issues. It's a voluntary act. The only thing "free" is the choice people have as well as the "freedom" to purchase the items themselves.

And if they can't afford 20 dollars/month, then maybe sex should be on the back burner while people figure out how to budget.

Originally posted by guesswhoyouknew
Man that sykonot guy was so disrespectful, I hope he never shows back around here!

weird look at your join date ...............'




to the point.......anyone who thinks BC is "free" clearly lacks the understanding of economics...and not only that, the fact that NOTHING is free......people have to be paid to work to make these products....

Who do you think pays for all the things it takes to get these products out there?

If people can be provided aids for recreational sex, then i demand booze and viagra for my older friends.....

if our taxes are going to go to something atleast let it go to something we WANT

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
to the point.......anyone who thinks BC is "free" clearly lacks the understanding of economics...and not only that, the fact that NOTHING is free......people have to be paid to work to make these products....

You are not looking at it from a country perspective.

Of course they are not free, the money to pay for it comes from somwhere, but its the same place the costs come from all the problems of NOT having available/affordable/free contraception. Which traditionally are larger.

I buy condoms so A) I dont have too raise a child, B) Dont get the willy covered in bumps and rashes.

Women wont have to buy their contraceptive method, which is unequal. If they supply women with the pill, I want my condoms paid for.

Simple as that.

Originally posted by AaronWilson
I buy condoms so A) I dont have too raise a child, . . .

I have 2 grandchildren because the "rubber" broke.

Prevention and birth control saves tax dollars.

Some people actually look past "the minute".

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Here's your gubment beer:

GOVERNMENT-SUBSIDIZED BEER

Celebs love to attach their brand to fine wines and liquor. But celebrity beer is new. Fans of Kid Rock will be able to partake of the hops brewed in Michigan as the result of a $723,000 tax break given to the brewery. Drinks America announced Kid Rock’s beer earlier, but the free government cheese made it happen far faster.

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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by AaronWilson
I buy condoms so A) I dont have too raise a child, . . .

I have 2 grandchildren because the "rubber" broke.

Prevention and birth control saves tax dollars.

Some people actually look past "the minute".

Same could be said for people who have had kids while on the pill.......

Look past agenda.........

i think we're missing something here. alcohol is an addictive substance, sex may be (in my opinion no) but BC is not an addictive substance. Also large amounts of alcohol drastically change your state of mind. should the government really GIVE something away that can do that?

And another thing a girl would get one free pill a month right (or 12 for the year)? Should beer be rationed in a similar manner?

Originally posted by Starchild23
Ms. Fluke pretty much made herself out to be a whore, in my opinion.

Any woman who sleeps with someone just for the pleasure of it, and not as a manner of bonding...especially if she does it frequently...is a whore.

Free birth control? Why not just tell all of America to be promiscuous and sleep with whoever you like?

I thought prostitution was illegal, and rampant sex was frowned upon. A little integrity, please...

Please cite for me, where, anywhere in this testimony, by Sandra Fluke, that she mentions her sexuality, that she or anyone she knows is having sex for pleasure, or asks for free birth control. You comments about Ms. Fluke may be you free speech, but remember, she's a lawyer and you're on the edge of liable.

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How about we just pay for your internet porn?

It will also curb unwanted children. And hey... prevent abortion as well. Just like birth control.

Peace


This would not even be an issue if they charged a reasonable price for the pill..In the Philippines it costs less than a dollar per month..absolutely no reason they could not sell it in the US for about the same cost. Just like cell phones..they charge in the U.S both the caller and the person being called...Most countries the people would have a revolution if they had to pay for a call made to them. Just a rant.

Peace again.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by AaronWilson
I buy condoms so A) I dont have too raise a child, . . .

I have 2 grandchildren because the "rubber" broke.

Prevention and birth control saves tax dollars.

Some people actually look past "the minute".

Same could be said for people who have had kids while on the pill.......

Look past agenda.........

Yes - - I became pregnant while on the pill. I aborted that pregnancy - - - for unselfish reasons. To ensure the welfare of my 2 living children.

As far as I'm concerned the government should provide for free any and all procedures to end unwanted pregnancies/children.

is this about the university insurance?

do normal insurance companies cover birth control?

if birth control is not a medical necessity why would health insurance cover it?

just because women have been lured with the pleasure of often sex without a condom, they need birth control?

i guess sexual freedom is not free,,,, unless there is something i am missing the OPs argument is pretty sound...

or it is just,,, i need to have sex,, and people need to help me pay to have sex without getting pregnant?

Hands-down most brilliant OP title of the year. And from a dog at that!