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Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by narwahl
Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to post by Muttley2012
No, but let's say you work for a Catholic Private School that self-insures. You don't have to be Catholic to work there. Can you demand that they provide you with birth control when it counters their religious beliefs?
If they pay me a salary, I can buy birth control with that.
They have no way around providing me with birth control.
Maybe the real point is trying to eliminate it from society all together, because it
will "stop" fornication.
Originally posted by ClimaxBesides that there are already programs in place to help those who are financialy unable to afford their sexual habits, which is an individual problem.
Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to post by Muttley2012
Close...you as an employee have no right to force your self-insured employer to provide what it is religiously against. And furthermore, you cannot have the government step in and force them to provide it to you.
Originally posted by WTFover
Originally posted by mastahunta
The 1st amendment is not a tool for religious Fascists to use as a dictating implement.
That is a bologna cover so zealots can inflict morality upon others.
The First Amendment (capitalized to give it the distinction it deserves) is a defense against anti-religion totalitarians, who wish to "inflict" their beliefs upon others.
You can continue to try the straw man tactic, like the rest of the liberals, but I won't play that way. The issue is a religious organization, free to exercise such religion, cannot be forced, by the state to pay for something that violates the basic tenets of such religion. Period. Nothing more. Nothing less.
No one has, is or will be refused the right to obtain contraceptives.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Each person in that organization is free to use
or not use what ever they would like in their personal lives. But for some reason
organizations think they can pick and chose which morality employees have to
adopt. I am with the side of personal freedom.
Originally posted by Charmed707
Originally posted by mastahunta
Each person in that organization is free to use
or not use what ever they would like in their personal lives. But for some reason
organizations think they can pick and chose which morality employees have to
adopt. I am with the side of personal freedom.
When taxpayers are paying for the sex lives of others, it's not a 'personal' matter. It's funny how those who demand others stay out of their bedrooms throw a tantrum when it's suggested that they pay for their own birth control. Along with freedom comes responsibility.
Originally posted by Charmed707
reply to post by narwahl
No, not everyone one is happy to be forced to pay for something that may or may not happen. Everyone needs to stand on their own two feet and not rely on the rest of society and pander to greedy insurance companies.
People should be treated as individuals, not as a collective organism.
Originally posted by Charmed707
reply to post by Titen-Sxull
Once again, most people who don't support handouts have no problem with birth control. They have a problem with being forced to pay for other people's lifestyle.
Originally posted by Charmed707
reply to post by Titen-Sxull
Once again, most people who don't support handouts have no problem with birth control. They have a problem with being forced to pay for other people's lifestyle.
Originally posted by mastahunta
The reason that insurance cover birth control is many fold.
But one key economic factor is that Pregnancy, Prenatal Care,
Birth and complicated pregnancy + delivery, post natal complications are more
expensive for Insurance companies than most contraception methods.
The is 100% true when you examine the total expense of both -
For those of you who are all about the freedom of business and the free market,
this is a case where attacking the role of birth control in society is in effect,
regulating the insurance companies and inflicting economic burden upon them.
Originally posted by Charmed707
reply to post by narwahl
Everyone has their OWN body that only they should be responsible for. I really don't care how other countries function.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Each person in that organization is free to use
or not use what ever they would like in their personal lives. But for some reason
organizations think they can pick and chose which morality employees have to
adopt. I am with the side of personal freedom.