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Originally posted by mastahunta
The 1st amendment is not a tool for religious Fascists to use as a dictating implement.
Originally posted by mastahunta
How is it the companies business what people do with their bodies... The Catholic school does not
own the employee.
Originally posted by Muttley2012
if I want birth control, you have no right to imposes your belief system upon my person.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
My main problem with this is that no one seems to be explaining to the Catholic church how incredibly wrong they are to take that stance toward birth control.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
that makes it okay for Catholic institutions to deny anyone in their employ, even non-Catholics, access to it?
Originally posted by iamconcerned
I love how he has no response about the Catholic hospital closing.
Medicare and Medicaid account for one-half of the funding to religiously affiliated hospitals.5 Religious hospitals also enjoy certain benefits like tax exempt status, lowcost financing through government bond programs, and in some areas, use of municipal buildings.6 Hospital Mergers and Sales Between 1990 and 2001 there were 171 mergers between Catholic hospitals and secular
lsrj.org...
Under the Religious and Ethical Directives for Catholic Health Care Services, Catholic hospitals will not provide contraception, sterilization, most infertility treatments, condom distribution for AIDS prevention, or abortion services. Directive 48 goes so far as to say no medical care can be provided to a woman with an extrauterine pregnancy that could be construed as abortion.
I really can't belive you don't get the jest of your own thread.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by WTFover
reply to post by Muttley2012
If a mod needs to remove this, then fine. But, I can only reply...
Please....
This comes down to individual rights, a person can decide to use birth control or not.
If they have religious reasons not to, they won't... I really can hardly believe you are
trying to frame it this way.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by WTFover
But, the fact is, no matter how many "reasons" you dream up, that pesky little First Amendment just keeps getting in your way.
That is the heart of the issue and all the Sandra Flukes in the world won't change it.
What are you on about?
The 1st amendment is not a tool for religious Fascists to use as a dictating implement.
That is a bologna cover so zealots can inflict morality upon others.
I think it is pretty pathetic using the constitution as an excuse to restrict liberty.
Again, if you're reading about CHEMICAL ABORTIONS for the first time, this may surprise, or even shock you. Most Americans are not aware that the Pill and other chemical "contraceptives" cause millions of "non-surgical" abortions each year in the early weeks of pregnancy. If you are using the Pill, Depo-Provera or Norplant, you need to know the truth about how these products work.
Another way the Pill causes early abortions: If your tiny baby survives the ride down the fallopian tube to your womb, the Pill will almost always cause the endometrium (the lining of your uterus) to reject your child. Chemical reactions often cause the lining of your womb to become thin, shriveled and unable to support implantation of your newly conceived child
In her award winning study of women taking the earlier high dose Pills, Dutch gynecologist Dr. Nine Van der Vange showed "proof of ovulation based on ultrasound exams and hormonal indicators occurred in about 4.7% of the cycles studied." (Source: Sterns, Dr. David, "How the Pill and the IUD Work: Gambling with Life," American Life League, PO Box 1350, Stafford, VA 22555)
Originally posted by LibertyCrazy
You're all so busy debating the pros and cons of the rule that you are missing the entire issue.
You now have a federal beauracracy that operates thousands of miles from my home dictating to me, my family and my business how to conduct our relationship with a completely private service provider (insurance company) in regard to a product that really has nothing to do with the public sphere.
THAT IS ILLEGAL, and once this truth is established then the birth control issue becomes moot.
When administration officials are bragging about all those jobs “saved or created” by Obama’s stimulus program, they probably won’t mention the $387,000 grant to Planned Parenthood of Massachusetts, but residents of Fitchburg, Mass., don’t like what it means for their community:
Originally posted by Muttley2012
Originally posted by WTFover
But, the fact is, no matter how many "reasons" you dream up, that pesky little First Amendment just keeps getting in your way.
That is the heart of the issue and all the Sandra Flukes in the world won't change it.
What does the first amendment have to do with birth control?