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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by spy66
Personally i think our human consciousness can only be in one time line at a time. Say for instance; If you are dreaming you are living a different timeline compared to when you are awake.
If we look at God. There are two things we have to keep in mind when it comes to time. One thing is God infinite body/dimension. Gods infinite physical dimension would not have a timeline, because when its infinite it is a constant (not changing). But Gods infinite physical dimension must have a consciousness with a active time line.
This is the only way God would be able to make physical changes (time line) to his infinite dimension.
But what if God's/SourCe's "dimension" isn't Infinite, but rather, finite but growing into Infinite? Defined but kNot confined?
That's one of the biggest misconceptions of the Universe/God/SourCe. Most think She's Infinite but She's kNot but She once was and is now growing back into Her once self.
Ribbit
Originally posted by ecossiepossie
Space is in constant motion it has been expanding since the misnomert BIG BANG.....As it was not BIG an there was no BANG,,,It started as the smallest thing ever an sound cannot travell in a vacum.Not that there was even a vacum or space for it not to bang into.So I like to think of it as the infinietlly small silence as opose the big bang.How ever it has been in constant motion since it popped into existance .Not only is it expanding wich is motion.It is expanding at an ever faster rate its excellerating,Also within space particles of matter are forever being created into an out of existance.Someone said in a previous post if God or a creator made us.What have we done to deserve his love?Well I M O nothing or deserve his Hate either .If an entity did create us an the universe then we are part of it .To wish for peace an harmony within the universe is not a gift or right for us.Its a desire it has for all things includeing its self.For it would be all encompose all.An without the power of free will.It would be very boreing an predictable an no fun at all.Like reading a book or watching a film when you no every line to be spoken .Every plot devolpment an endining..Like knowing Bruce Willis is a ghost in the movie the 6th sence before you watch...M O O.
Originally posted by Baron01
Time does not exist. It's always now and anything else is imagined. You can only think (imagine) about the past or future right NOW. Matter is always in motion which makes it look like there is a linear timeline. We also have been told in school that time exists and that there are seconds/minutes/hours/days/weeks/months/years.... but all of that is nonsens. We have been stimulated to believe this illusion.
Every-thing is constantly moving and because of that we can see 'change'. We see change as the so called 'time' like embryo->baby->child->adult for example. But that's only because matter is in motion. What is not in motion is space and without space matter cannot exist but space can exist without matter. Therefore time is not real/does not exist. However the NOW is real, it's very obvious. The now is not created by the motion of matter but it's the nature of space.
So can time exist within time? The answer is no because time does not exist.
Originally posted by Baron01
ButtUglyToad, I've been reading your posts for a long time and I have to say you're a very interesting toad (a very ugly one tbh) with too much imagination.
Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by Baron01
Expansion is caused by pressure differentials. A compression is caused by a pressure differential.
Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by Baron01
What you have to understand is that matter is in fact compressed energies. Matter is energy compressed into a solid with mass.
Why is a mass finite? Because it is effected by pressure differentials. If you have a block of ice in a hot room. It will melt into water. After that the water will evaporate into a gas and so on. All this just because the block of ice is surrounded by a hot atmosphere (high pressure).
The Sun burns fuel because of a pressure differentials. If it didn't earth would never receive heat from the Sun.
Expansion is caused by pressure differentials. A compression is caused by a pressure differential.
edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Baron01
ButtUglyToad, I've been reading your posts for a long time and I have to say you're a very interesting toad (a very ugly one tbh) with too much imagination.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
Originally posted by Baron01
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Baron01
ButtUglyToad, I've been reading your posts for a long time and I have to say you're a very interesting toad (a very ugly one tbh) with too much imagination.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
But too much imagination will make you an insanely confused toad. Time existing within time? It's time to go to the doctor froggy.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Baron01
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Baron01
ButtUglyToad, I've been reading your posts for a long time and I have to say you're a very interesting toad (a very ugly one tbh) with too much imagination.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
But too much imagination will make you an insanely confused toad. Time existing within time? It's time to go to the doctor froggy.
And when have I ever claimed to be sane?
If you ain't nuk'n futz, your fuk'n nutz!
Ribbit
Originally posted by Baron01
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Baron01
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Baron01
ButtUglyToad, I've been reading your posts for a long time and I have to say you're a very interesting toad (a very ugly one tbh) with too much imagination.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
But too much imagination will make you an insanely confused toad. Time existing within time? It's time to go to the doctor froggy.
And when have I ever claimed to be sane?
If you ain't nuk'n futz, your fuk'n nutz!
Ribbit
I thought maybe you don't realize how utterly insane you are.
You must be a big fan of Michio Kaku, right? If you don't know who he is you should definitely check him out (he is kind of like you).
But if you want to be more sane watch some video's of Benjamin Smythe www.youtube.com.... Although it looks like he's insane he just has a good sense of humor and is always spot on.
If you want to get rid of your belief in time watch these two vids. from him:
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...
''Everything that has ever happened is over''
''There is no way to find yesterday in the actual world''
Time is a selfmade illusion.
To think is to have thunk, because when you think of anything, that thought is now in the past, thus, since Time has to elapse for anything to happen, when you think, you can only realize it when that thought is now in the past. Actions then manifest themselves in the present from past actions, which includes thought.
Sew it can be said that the Present is for understanding the past and to rationalize the future.
Thinking and thought are the same thing sir/miss,
No they are kNot!
Thinking occurs in the now and Thought is the END result of Thinking, which means Thought can only exist in the past, whereas Thinking can only happen Now.
Originally posted by Baron01
A thought cannot exist in the past because it did never exist. For the observer it looks like the thought was real but in reality there were only selfmade (not even selfmade but it feels like that) signals going off in the brain which the observer observes as a thought.
Originally posted by libertytoall
If you have consciousnesses or movement time must exist.
Originally posted by lacrimosa
edit on 5-3-2012 by lacrimosa because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by godspetrat
Originally posted by lacrimosa
edit on 5-3-2012 by lacrimosa because: (no reason given)
Lacrimosa dies illa,
Qua resurget ex favilla
Judicandus homo reus.
Huic ergo parce, Deus,
Pie Jesu Domine,
Dona eis requiem. Amen.
I'm still following this thread with interest. Still intrigued by the OP. Can time exist within time? Hard to wrap one's head around, to be sure, but since certain experiences have made it clear to me that time may be more "flexible" than conventional wisdom has made it out to be, I suppose it is possible. I believe in God, though I don't know the nature of that creative entity, and I think for this universe to have come about (I don't believe it was an accident) required an understanding and experiencing of time that is non-linear.
Wheels within wheels!
Originally posted by lacrimosa
reply to post by godspetrat
i dont think its possible or in any way advantagious to have a disscusion about 'time'.
it can be measured, but can't be explained/defined/described. : T
it's a horrible topic where no one has a clue what anyone is talking about.
Originally posted by godspetrat
Originally posted by lacrimosa
reply to post by godspetrat
i dont think its possible or in any way advantagious to have a disscusion about 'time'.
it can be measured, but can't be explained/defined/described. : T
it's a horrible topic where no one has a clue what anyone is talking about.
Actually, I must respectfully disagree. It's a great topic, even though we may not have a clue what anyone is talking about. Some will read these things and at least have an inkling, if not a clue. This forum is Philosophy and Metaphysics, is it not? I can't prove my unconventional understanding of the nature of time to anyone, and won't try, but will merely give hints that it may not be what it seems. I think this is what the OP is trying to do as well. I base my notions on personal experience, but how can I prove that I had an NDE that opened my mind to a different interpretation of time? It was very real to me, and I am quite a rational person otherwise.
I say keep it going, for I would love to hear others' views on the subject, yours included!