Can Time exist within Time?, page 1


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reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 09:16 PM by godspetrat
I have been a member for some time. I obviously don't post much, but this topic really grabbed me. I am one of those people who have been the "victim" of what is commonly referred to as an NDE, and though I was an Atheist or at the least an Agnostic before the experience, I have a much different view now.

I now have no doubt that the afterlife and eternal exist. There were some suggestions of reincarnation in my NDE, but since things get a bit scattered and confused (probably intentionally by the contactors) in such an experience, I do not know if reincarnation is true, partly true, or just a metaphor my contactors used to illuminate to me different aspects of my soul.

One thing I did retain, is that the universe has a singularity. It is the point in time in which matter was made, well, matter! Cayce stated that all time, when viewed from the highest dimension, is a single moment. Of course, time for us is linear, and this is the blessing (and the curse) of living as a 3rd dimensional entity. What I am sure of, is that my NDE was real. I met beings not of this world. Their initial words to me: "you have been brought along as a mitigating agent for vice, with the capacity for direct action;" enigmatic, I know, but one has to read between the lines!

My NDE, though it is hard to remember the details, was no dream. I am a 43 year old educated man with a master's degree. I was always a sceptic until that week (or so!) in the fall of 2007. I have come back with no powers, knowledge, or special insight except for the fact that I no longer view time or the universe (including human mortality) the same way.

I have become a Christian, though I am no Biblical literalist. God exists, Jesus was at the very least really cool.



reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 09:49 PM by LifeIsEnergy
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And yet, still, the thought of time and the thought of the thought of time, are all just thoughts. In other words, the thought of thinking is thinking itself, so where is there a division to say "time inside of time"?




reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 10:03 PM by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
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And yet, still, the thought of time and the thought of the thought of time, are all just thoughts. In other words, the thought of thinking is thinking itself, so where is there a division to say "time inside of time"?





You messed up your math.

Thought of Thinking is kNot Thinking, it's Thought itself, which is Time but Independent Thought within Collective Thought, would then be Time within Time.

Ribbit

Ps: Your Sig is interesting, in that LIE = WE

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reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 10:07 PM by godspetrat
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It's actually quite intriguing, what you said. I think it could be possible: that is; there is a self and higher self as well, something like that. All I got from my experience is that time isn't quite what we think it is, nor is life. I am reminded of what Richard Adams' psychic rabbit character Fiver said not in the book Watership Down but in the short-lived TV series: "are we really here at all?"

Sure, Adams didn't come up with that question, his character was expanded upon by the TV series producers, but there is some evidence that the author of Watership Down thinks along those lines.

I think it is possible that we can exist in higher dimensions at the same time as we are here, but coming from one such as I who firmly believes he was introduced to otherworldy entities (both good and bad) for what that's worth, I really don't think we are allowed to know yet. I was shown many things, but they made sure that anything I could relate to others would be confused at best. I have never even spoken of these matters before except to my brother. I have not had any time-bending experiences since 2007, only several very lucid dreams, but they are really just dreams, and my NDE was a different animal altogether.

So, to sum up, are the things you are posting about possible? I say yes, based on my very personal experiences. Proving the particulars, or convincing others? That is a very different matter entirely!
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reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 11:36 PM by godspetrat
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Well, read Wind in the Willows. It suits you!

I for one could believe in the collective consciousness, but I don't know if it is true. My experiences have given me the basic understanding of the nature of time, no more! I think this could be true, and indeed wish it to be true, when I think of animals. A collective consciousness, yes.



reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 11:55 PM by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by godspetrat
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Well, read Wind in the Willows. It suits you!

I for one could believe in the collective consciousness, but I don't know if it is true. My experiences have given me the basic understanding of the nature of time, no more! I think this could be true, and indeed wish it to be true, when I think of animals. A collective consciousness, yes.



If all of this exists in Conscious Thought, then how is it possible for a Soul to ever be hurt?

I know of the Wind and the Willows and believe me, I fit the toad in there more ways than I'd like.

Ribbit


reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 11:59 PM by godspetrat
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by godspetrat
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post by ButtUglyToad




Well, read Wind in the Willows. It suits you!

I for one could believe in the collective consciousness, but I don't know if it is true. My experiences have given me the basic understanding of the nature of time, no more! I think this could be true, and indeed wish it to be true, when I think of animals. A collective consciousness, yes.



If all of this exists in Conscious Thought, then how is it possible for a Soul to ever be hurt?

I know of the Wind and the Willows and believe me, I fit the toad in there more ways than I'd like.

Ribbit


Heh, I am more like Toad than I'd like as well. Always indulging myself, sitting still and gassing again, that sort of thing!

Great conversation about time, and I wish I knew how to flag this so it doesn't go away...


reply posted on 3-3-2012 @ 12:12 AM by DoNotForgetMe
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I have experienced a loop before but not for long, ten to fifteen seconds maybe, but still enough to freak me out. I have also seen clocks both analog and digital show odd movements of time, sometimes slower other times faster. I have experienced huge losses and gains in time, for example, one day I got dressed for work when I realized it was 3pm and was watching tv, took 5 minutes to change and grab what I needed, sat in front of the tv, thought I accidentally changed channels because the program was not what I had been watching, but the channel was correct, the time was then 1:30pm. I waited till the show I was watching came on, at 2:30pm again, and it was exactly what I had seen the first time. Believe or do not, but I met others who have experienced time distortions. Time is only beneficial for one thing, a job.



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reply posted on 3-3-2012 @ 12:32 AM by silo13
In a word, yes, time can exist 'in' time.
I don't know if I can explain it - but here goes.

And I know some will say it's only my perception - but - it still happens - but is that all it is? No. Not in my opinion.

Let's say you've busted your leg. You're in the ambulance and you hear the Paramedic radio the hospital your ETA. (Estimated time of arrival). You're in hellish pain, just hellish pain like you've never felt. The kind of pain where you're begging them to just shoot you. Through the fog of your misery you hear the ETA is 12 minutes. You know, 12 minutes from now you'll be getting some pain relief. But the time within that 12 minutes now has increased to seconds stretching to hours!

Simply perception? Why? Why can't it be the little time gnomes playing tricks?

Another example...

You're buzzing along in your car singing along to Tom Petty's
American Girl - the tune taking you back to the 'old days' and you're loving it - when a small white ball rolls out between two parked cars not a bus length in front of you.

WHAM! Nano-second later you leave Tom Petty behind and time SLOOOWWWSSSSS! Another nano-second and you're foots pushing the brake through the floor. TIME SLOWWWSSS ever more. A toe-headed kid (that looks remarkably like Tom Petty) runs out after his ball. TIME SLOOWWWSSS even more!!!

SCREECH!!! Stink of burning rubber and you just miss that kid. Swallowing the urge to scream an obscenity at the mother standing at the curb a hand over her heart her eyes big and round her face devoid of color you realize times returned to normal and The Heartbreaker's are just grooving into the chorus - your favorite part...

Yip. Time within time. No doubt!

'Oh yeah, alight, take it easy baby, make it last all night...make it last all night...'

peace
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