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Vatican Archives Open to public

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posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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So I guess the Pope has allowed access for 'scholars' and the public for the first time in history. Do any diggers have any info or heard of any news discoveries? I would give up alot to gain access.
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posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Please, a source so we can look into it? You'd probably have to get to Italy, do you know any Latin, or Italian? That would help.



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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www.luxinarcana.org...

Figures,not ALL ACCESS just 100 docs
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posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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given the vatican is supposed to have the largest stash of pr0n in the world its certainly going to attract a few people who won't walk straight for a while after seeing it



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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I'd love to go to Rome for any reason, but to see this stuff for 10 Euros? Sounds great. One problem I alluded to earlier, is that I couldn't tell if the documents had translations attached. If not, you won't get much knowledge from them.

have you gone to the "documents" section of that site and clicked on some of the pictures? It explains the document in the picture. Might get something from that.



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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As if the Vatican would give anyone "full access" to their archives...

They release the documents that will support their views only...

Garenteed they have documents that would completely alter Christianity as we know it... Which will never come to the general publics eye...

They're smarter then that... why shoot themselves in the foot when they can just reinforce their views


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posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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F*****G double posts!!


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posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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You are right, and we all know.That the church will never shine a light on the whole archives. Imagine all the 'secrets' that you could undust in their, Galileo's inquisition and inventions, the records the Church seized from ALL over the world and every culture, but.. not anytime soon it seems



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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The Vatican would never give full access ..And im sure those 100 docs were carefully picked and most wont show us anymore then what we already know..
Oh id love to know all there hidden secrets i bet it would be mind blowing..But that will never happen the church has to many dirty little secrets to hide..peace,sugarcookie1



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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He who denies knowledge of the kingdom of God from his fellow man will surely have reckoning.



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 06:53 AM
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A few selected documents compared to the other thousands locked away is nothing startling but it does make me smile how they seem to be trying to portray a new bohemian type move. Thank you so much Vatican for your kind gesture.

Now let someone have full access and you might actually do some good for once.
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posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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I agree, What documents are being kept from the public eye, which discredit the Catholic church as a whole. Or so called religious documents.

The Vatican will never be open they have far more secrets to keep than anyone else.



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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I think you have this "Secret Archive" business all wrong. Here's a website you can explore which is very informative: www.archiviosegretovaticano.va... Here are some of the things you'll find.


Research in the Archivio Segreto Vaticano is free of charge and open to qualified scholars conducting scientific studies.
All researchers must have a university degree (five-year course) or an equivalent university diploma.
Clergymen must possess a licentiate degree or PhD.
Today permission is granted to consult the documents in the archives up until the end of the papacy of Pius XI (February 1939).


Access to Reading Rooms
Admission cards are required to access the rooms and can be obtained at the Admission Secretariat on Mondays to Fridays from 8.15 to 10.30 .

How to request an admission card

Send an application to the Prefect of the Archivio Segreto Vaticano providing personal details (name, family name, address, nationality), qualifications, profession and reasons for the research.
Provide a presentation letter from a recognized institute of scientific and historical research or a person qualified in the field of historical research (tenured university professors)
Specify the latest academic qualification obtained (for laymen: university degree or equivalent university diploma, PhD, fellowship; for clergymen: licentiate degree or PhD)
Attach photocopy of valid ID (ID card, passport)
Provide 1 photograph


After Pope Leo XIII opened the doors of the Archivio Segreto Vaticano to scholars back in 1881, it has become one of the most famous history research centres in the world.

In accordance with a practice established in 1924, the pope grants free access to the documents «grouped into pontificates» currently running up to the end of the papacy of Pope Pius XI (February 1939). Nevertheless, Paul VI departed from this practice and granted scholars access to the Archives of the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) after the Council came to a close in 1965. Lastly, Pope John Paul II granted access to the fond Ufficio Informazioni Vaticano, Prigionieri di Guerra (Prisoners of War) (1939-1947).

All I can tell you is that it is not what you think. Sure, every government has secrets, but the Archives are open for believer or sceptic alike. The Pope may have his own "Area 51," but this isn't it.



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by bo12au
So I guess the Pope has allowed access for 'scholars' and the public for the first time in history. Do any diggers have any info or heard of any news discoveries? I would give up alot to gain access.
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Threads like this are incredibly annoying.

A simple google search would show that the assumptions in this thread are far fetched and based on ignorance. Want to check out the Vatican archives? Put in the work to become a scholar in the field and fill out the application. Not so nefarious.

Eric



posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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I would so love to have full access to wander around and see what they have hidden away there. Alas that will never happen, I don't carry the credentials required for access, and I know that when you request access you have to specify what you intend to study, you are escorted in and a guard remains with you until you leave



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 05:03 AM
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Bravo, bravo, fellow truthseeker

 
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by Maxatoria
given the vatican is supposed to have the largest stash of pr0n in the world its certainly going to attract a few people who won't walk straight for a while after seeing it



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posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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Is this true? if so, can you provide a link please OPer? I would love to visit the Vatican and look through their archives. If the Vatican "covered up" all documents just for their sake, i'll make that inference for myself.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Far fetched and ignorant? Take a chill pill bro, if you find the topic annoying GTFO, simple as that.

The archives also contain the state papers, correspondence, papal account books,[1] and many other documents which the church has accumulated over the centuries. In the 17th century, under the orders of Pope Paul V, the Secret Archives were separated from the Vatican Library, where scholars had some very limited access to them, and remained absolutely closed to outsiders until 1881, when Pope Leo XIII opened them to researchers, of whom now more than a thousand examine its documents each year



TextThere is no generic browsing, and researchers must ask for the precise document they wish to see, identifying it either by consulting the indices and must be granted an expressed written permission authorized by a ranking prelate for perusal. Even then, not many requests are granted entrance as the application process is long and rigorous


This is not the Vatican library [snip]. Something completley different. So you have an archives that is allowed access by a need to know basis, and even than you can not duplicate anything.
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posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by bo12au
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Far fetched and ignorant? Take a chill pill bro, if you find the topic annoying GTFO, simple as that.

This is not the Vatican library, INSULT REDACTED. Something completley different. So you have an archives that is allowed access by a need to know basis, and even than you can not duplicate anything.
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Wow. I'm a bit taken aback. I've never been insulted on ATS like that. You're quite the rhetorician. Interesting how you tell me to take a 'chill pill' and yet end with the insult. The insults almost anachronistic. I haven't heard it since High School and it seems to apply more to you than me.

The Secret Archives are accessed by more than a thousand researchers every year. Want to access the documents there? Put in the work to get some credentials and apply. Too onerous? That's not the fault of the Vatican nor is it indicative of anything underhanded.

The 1000 documents that you referenced in your link are being discussed not because they are finally being made accessible to researchers, but because they are being brought out of the archives to Rome for wider viewing.

The point is that if you had the bona fides and wanted to see one of those documents before now, you stood an excellent chance of doing so by applying at the Secret Archives.

Eric



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