Real Zionists please stand up !!!

I see Zionists and warmongers starting threads about reasons for war or support Zionism.

So this is a thread to determine who is real Zionists.

So , if you Zionists think that Zionists are doing good in Palestine and middle east , come and send a reply.

And if you are afraid mouses that feel to hide your agenda , beware that every one is aware of your agendas.

What exactly, pray-tell, is Israel doing that Iran, Syria, Libya and any other M.E. country isnt doing themselves?

Act of defence? Or Offence?


How about weigh out some of the ongoing issues on your scales... Tell me what you see. Then I'll tell you what I see.


War? I dont want it. But, if the bully down the road keeps kickin the $#!% out of you, at some point, you're either going to start swinging back or you're going to end up his &!%(#....

That's how I see it.

Originally posted by theRhenn
What exactly, pray-tell, is Israel doing that Iran, Syria, Libya and any other M.E. country isnt doing themselves?

Act of defence? Or Offence?


How about weigh out some of the ongoing issues on your scales... Tell me what you see. Then I'll tell you what I see.


War? I dont want it. But, if the bully down the road keeps kickin the $#!% out of you, at some point, you're either going to start swinging back or you're going to end up his &!%(#....

That's how I see it.

You are saying Iran is the bully..exactly who are they bullying? And in what way?

Peace

Originally posted by theRhenn
What exactly, pray-tell, is Israel doing that Iran, Syria, Libya and any other M.E. country isnt doing themselves?

Act of defence? Or Offence?

Israel is just an illegal regime that has stolen lands from Palestinians and has sinister plans to take over Middle East resources and lands by any mean necessary.

So , Zionists are not peaceful people living friendly beside each other , or you are just ignorant about it.

So , if you Zionists think that Zionists are doing good in Palestine and middle east , come and send a reply.

This sentence has a presumption that people who know about truth in Palestine should reply.

reply to post by hmdphantom


And if you are afraid mouses that feel to hide your agenda , beware that every one is aware of your agendas.





Like yours isn't obvious...


You do understand that regardless of belief, both sides of this issue are about asinine as you can get.


But you already knew that, and decided to stir things up since the weekend is upon us..?

I have to add... You believe in the 3rd imam or whatever.

Please tell me what exactly do you subscribe to? You do understand that it takes what is happening to make your imam come, according to your beliefs, which I assume is based upon the 3rd imam.

Why does this seem like the pot calling the kettle, here? Why does this make little to no sense to me?

Its like someone preaching peace but believing in the antichrist. Not saying your imam is that, though many would argue that it is, im simply saying, you're involved deeply in something that is a total oxymoron to something that you argue against.


Please explain this logic.

reply to post by spav5


oh dear... another that does not read the news..

Why are you here if you cant read the articles?

reply to post by hmdphantom
What do you consider a real zionist? Just someone who has issues with Iran?
or

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is a form of nationalism of Jews and Jewish culture that supports a Jewish nation state in territory defined as the Land of Israel.[1] Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity and opposes the the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be liberated from anti-Semitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that has occurred in other societies.[1] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of the Jewish state and address threats to its continued existence and security

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by theRhenn
reply to post by spav5

 

oh dear... another that does not read the news..

Why are you here if you cant read the articles?

Way to avoid the question.

Yes I do not read the news..why don't you explain your position for me. Thanks.

Peace

Originally posted by facelift
reply to post by hmdphantom

 

And if you are afraid mouses that feel to hide your agenda , beware that every one is aware of your agendas.

Like yours isn't obvious...


You do understand that regardless of belief, both sides of this issue are about asinine as you can get.


But you already knew that, and decided to stir things up since the weekend is upon us..?

No , just connect the dots , Iraq is going to be parted and that is one part of the plan.

And I am brave enough to un-dress my agenda , because it is not something to hide.

Iran hasn't and is not invading any country , but US (the father of Zionism) is doing good doing anything in Middle East.

And Zionists have started the ugliest wars in human history ,

They are the ones behind the theories of population reduction.

They are the ones possessing bombs.

They are the ones who have used them.

They are the ones who started WW2 , killing opposite Jews , attacking WTC buildings while there was not a JEW there.

They are the ones who established Israel by force and massacre.

They are the ones behind sex and porn movie industries.

They are the ones worshiping idols and daemons and teaching people how to do it in the movies.

And Iran ???

Is not letting gays marry in mosques.

Is not bringing Obelisks to the mosques.

Is not playing like "goal justifies the mean".

Yeah I know.

If Zionist is a person who believes that Israel is a homeland of Jewish nation and that Jews have the right to live in the area under their own rule - i am a Zionist.
I sence it has more to do with babyeating, genocidal, satan-like type that should be killied before the end of times version though but might be wrong. In this case i can happily say that i did not ate anyone for breakfast, there are more Palestinians now only inside Israel then there were Palestinian Arabs in 1948 in all of the British mandate of Palestine and that religious fanatics of all nationalities and religions should better mind their own buisness.
As for warmongering, i'll tell you this. Only one of us wants to stop the existence of certain independent state due to the fact that this person considers it to be ruled by people of the wrong religion and nationality. And there is only one way to do it and it is not peaceful, you know.
The other has no objection to existance of any state on this planet as long as his own state will continue to enjoy its place alongside the others.
See, i answered your very gentle and not-aggresive-at-all post.
Can you answer mine?
What option out of only 2 below would you choose:
A) Existence of independent Palestinian state alongside independent Jewish state in 1948 UN borders.
B) All the lands under any surrounding Muslim state control without independent Palestine or Israel.

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by theRhenn
What exactly, pray-tell, is Israel doing that Iran, Syria, Libya and any other M.E. country isnt doing themselves?

Act of defence? Or Offence?

Israel is just an illegal regime that has stolen lands from Palestinians and has sinister plans to take over Middle East resources and lands by any mean necessary.

So , Zionists are not peaceful people living friendly beside each other , or you are just ignorant about it.

So , if you Zionists think that Zionists are doing good in Palestine and middle east , come and send a reply.

This sentence has a presumption that people who know about truth in Palestine should reply.

edit on 2/3/12 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)

I never said Israel were saints.

In my world.. Actions speak louder than words. So far, I dont see Israel doing the following...

- Killing Gays
- Killing people of other religions for simply believing in them
- Killing blacks
- Killing each other
- Threatening to wipe other nations off the map
- Claiming a damndable, horrible destruction of peoples didnt happen
- Creating a VERY destructive thing and one one hand saying its peaceful then turning around and claiming they will incinerate the world and anyone who tries to stop them.
- Strapping bombs to children
- Raping, killing, dismembering opposition
- In league with the most evil countries of the world... Dictatorships and communism included.
- Claiming to be better than anyone else because of religion... Hitler did this... Guess who else???
- purposly causing conflic in other countries as well as around the world for the sake of WANTING the world to come to an end so their precious imam can come and save them all. What idiocy is this???

That's litteraly pointing a doomsday missle at the earth, and pushing the button hopping someone will blow it up before it hits the earth. How ignorant is that?

Sok though.. I dont expect you to take off your blindfold. I dont claim anything, not zionism, not whatever'ism.. I just want a peaceful world where I dont have to worry about such things. Unfortunatly, it's here, and you're just as much at fault than anyone else on this planet for causing it to be this way. Understand that? It takes more than just one. If there was only one, it would have been delt with or we have all submitted. I didnt submit to anyone.. I just see with open eyes. Death is Death. Wrong is Wrong..

Anyone believing that destruction must take place so they can finaly eat their cake is a total looney! Why would you want to bring destruction down upon your own... Why would you kill your own sons and daughters because they want to choose their own ways... Why are you so damned hateful?!?

Me...? I want war to end.. I want it to go away.. forever! But I dont want it at the hands of killing every damn person on the planet to get it.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by hmdphantom

 

What do you consider a real zionist? Just someone who has issues with Iran?
or

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is a form of nationalism of Jews and Jewish culture that supports a Jewish nation state in territory defined as the Land of Israel.[1] Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity and opposes the the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be liberated from anti-Semitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that has occurred in other societies.[1] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of the Jewish state and address threats to its continued existence and security

en.wikipedia.org...

Zionists : The ones who are after making their Zion (the place=Israel) ,
Then crumbling countries into little countries (because divide and conquer plans will work well when done)
Then controlling energy vessels through the world.
Then making other nations work for them as their slaves.(like China)
The ones who are after killing Muslims in Middle East ( who are not letting these plans accomplish easily.)

The only one god has one message and it is not killing people , it is not to worship idols or daemons , it is not to change religious rules (in every Ibrahamic religions) , it is not to make other people live like our slaves.

And Zionists tell us they are doing what god told them to do which is a lie.

reply to post by theRhenn


What do you want me to say except you are fed with lies.

You are hypnotized.

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by hmdphantom

 

What do you consider a real zionist? Just someone who has issues with Iran?
or

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is a form of nationalism of Jews and Jewish culture that supports a Jewish nation state in territory defined as the Land of Israel.[1] Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity and opposes the the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be liberated from anti-Semitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that has occurred in other societies.[1] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of the Jewish state and address threats to its continued existence and security

en.wikipedia.org...

Zionists : The ones who are after making their Zion (the place=Israel) ,
Then crumbling countries into little countries (because divide and conquer plans will work well when done)
Then controlling energy vessels through the world.
Then making other nations work for them as their slaves.(like China)
The ones who are after killing Muslims in Middle East ( who are not letting these plans accomplish easily.)

The only one god has one message and it is not killing people , it is not to worship idols or daemons , it is not to change religious rules (in every Ibrahamic religions) , it is not to make other people live like our slaves.

And Zionists tell us they are doing what god told them to do which is a lie.

Ahhh, I see. Then it's a pretend zionist.

Not a real zionist.

I don't like olives. But that doesn't give me the right to stop other people from eating them.

Originally posted by spav5

Originally posted by theRhenn
reply to post by spav5

 

oh dear... another that does not read the news..

Why are you here if you cant read the articles?

Way to avoid the question.

Yes I do not read the news..why don't you explain your position for me. Thanks.

Peace

I didnt avoid the question. Sorry if I assumed you were smart enough to pick up on it right away.

But if you need me to spell it out.. sure. Oh wait.. I did in my next responce. It'll do perfectly for your responce as well.

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by facelift
reply to post by hmdphantom

 

And if you are afraid mouses that feel to hide your agenda , beware that every one is aware of your agendas.

Like yours isn't obvious...


You do understand that regardless of belief, both sides of this issue are about asinine as you can get.


But you already knew that, and decided to stir things up since the weekend is upon us..?

No , just connect the dots , Iraq is going to be parted and that is one part of the plan.

And I am brave enough to un-dress my agenda , because it is not something to hide.

Iran hasn't and is not invading any country , but US (the father of Zionism) is doing good doing anything in Middle East.

And Zionists have started the ugliest wars in human history ,

They are the ones behind the theories of population reduction.

They are the ones possessing bombs.

They are the ones who have used them.

They are the ones who started WW2 , killing opposite Jews , attacking WTC buildings while there was not a JEW there.

They are the ones who established Israel by force and massacre.

They are the ones behind sex and porn movie industries.

They are the ones worshiping idols and daemons and teaching people how to do it in the movies.

And Iran ???

Is not letting gays marry in mosques.

Is not bringing Obelisks to the mosques.

Is not playing like "goal justifies the mean".

Yeah I know.

Oh wow! You really believe this?!?!?

That's as tarded as amadinerjihad saying the holocost never existed!

Just wow!

reply to post by beezzer


I didn't expect better result when people can just refer to internet for their information while are far away from the truth geographically.

Originally posted by theRhenn

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by theRhenn
What exactly, pray-tell, is Israel doing that Iran, Syria, Libya and any other M.E. country isnt doing themselves?

Act of defence? Or Offence?

Israel is just an illegal regime that has stolen lands from Palestinians and has sinister plans to take over Middle East resources and lands by any mean necessary.

So , Zionists are not peaceful people living friendly beside each other , or you are just ignorant about it.

So , if you Zionists think that Zionists are doing good in Palestine and middle east , come and send a reply.

This sentence has a presumption that people who know about truth in Palestine should reply.

edit on 2/3/12 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)

I never said Israel were saints.

In my world.. Actions speak louder than words. So far, I dont see Israel doing the following...

- Killing Gays
- Killing people of other religions for simply believing in them
- Killing blacks
- Killing each other
- Threatening to wipe other nations off the map
- Claiming a damndable, horrible destruction of peoples didnt happen
- Creating a VERY destructive thing and one one hand saying its peaceful then turning around and claiming they will incinerate the world and anyone who tries to stop them.
- Strapping bombs to children
- Raping, killing, dismembering opposition
- In league with the most evil countries of the world... Dictatorships and communism included.
- Claiming to be better than anyone else because of religion... Hitler did this... Guess who else???
- purposly causing conflic in other countries as well as around the world for the sake of WANTING the world to come to an end so their precious imam can come and save them all. What idiocy is this???

That's litteraly pointing a doomsday missle at the earth, and pushing the button hopping someone will blow it up before it hits the earth. How ignorant is that?

Sok though.. I dont expect you to take off your blindfold. I dont claim anything, not zionism, not whatever'ism.. I just want a peaceful world where I dont have to worry about such things. Unfortunatly, it's here, and you're just as much at fault than anyone else on this planet for causing it to be this way. Understand that? It takes more than just one. If there was only one, it would have been delt with or we have all submitted. I didnt submit to anyone.. I just see with open eyes. Death is Death. Wrong is Wrong..

Anyone believing that destruction must take place so they can finaly eat their cake is a total looney! Why would you want to bring destruction down upon your own... Why would you kill your own sons and daughters because they want to choose their own ways... Why are you so damned hateful?!?

Me...? I want war to end.. I want it to go away.. forever! But I dont want it at the hands of killing every damn person on the planet to get it.

Are you talking about the U.S.?

This is just a rant .where in this rant does it explain how Iran is bullying Israel? If you mean they are saying the Israeli regime should be wiped out? Well Israel is the one threatening war.

I will read any facts that you post..but will not respond to anymore ranting hatred. I will argue with smart and ignorant because I can learn from both...but I refuse to argue with stupid.

Peace

Peace

Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by theRhenn

 

What do you want me to say except you are fed with lies.

You are hypnotized.

I could say the same about you.

So we agree to differ. Nuff said. Enjoy your hate thread.. propiganda thread.. idiocy thread.. blind thread.. oh whatever. Just enjoy. I think Ive had my fill of your hate filled cake. It only brings out a form of hatred in me and that, my imamian friend.. is wrong. If it causes me to hate, then Im no better than you for bothering with it.

you can have your cake and eat it alone with your imamian buddies. I'd hate to think you're in america. That wouldnt make sense to me either..

OH WAIT! It does. I forget. You guys want to take over the world. We just want to take over your oil.

Bet you believe that too....