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Originally posted by Believer101
Originally posted by Pigraphia
reply to post by Xcalibur254
Insurance companies should not be forced to provide something that is not a medical necessity.
Birth control is a medical necessity for me. It is for my best friend. It is for about 85% of the women at my school. I'm not sure how many times I have said this, but I'll say it again. Birth control is not JUST for preventing pregnancy.
Birth control does =/= the same as a condom.
Originally posted by colbe
Birth Control is against God, reject Him and you will make any excuse.
Contraception is an intrinsic evil, don't wait until your particular judgment to agree.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by colbe
Birth Control is against God, reject Him and you will make any excuse.
Contraception is an intrinsic evil, don't wait until your particular judgment to agree.
So, because Believer invented a medical condition in order to take birth-control medicine and is evil for doing it? What a wonderful, informed argument you make.
Could you show me the exact passage in the Bible that says birth-control is evil?edit on 4-3-2012 by WingedBull because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Believer101
Woah, hang on there a second. I "invented" a medical condition?? I don't think so, pal.
Originally posted by digginforthetruth
While I don't agree with the manner in which he said it, I don't think contraception should be something thrown on the taxpayers. Why should I have to pay for it. I have been married for 10 yrs and we didn't have a kids until we were 5 yrs into it. We used condoms. We never used birth control, but even if we did, why the hell should I expect someone else to pay for it. I don't see birth control as health care. I see it as pregnancy prevention, not health care.
Originally posted by modified device
Breitbart and.now Limbaugh,looks like Obamas team is taking out some of the rights artillery pieces and everyone is cheering it.sheep.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by colbe
Birth Control is against God, reject Him and you will make any excuse.
Contraception is an intrinsic evil, don't wait until your particular judgment to agree.
So, because Believer invented a medical condition in order to take birth-control medicine and is evil for doing it? What a wonderful, informed argument you make.
Could you show me the exact passage in the Bible that says birth-control is evil?edit on 4-3-2012 by WingedBull because: (no reason given)
You have free will. Maybe you didn't know till this thread. Contraception
is against God, which has been a teaching of the Church for 2000 years and previously in the Old Covenant. God created sex for marriage and children both. When you eliminate one of the two, having sex for self gratification only, impeding a chance for a baby, that's rejecting God, His plan.
The verses on contraception...
"The Bible mentions at least one form of contraception specifically and condemns it. Coitus interruptus, was used by Onan to avoid fulfilling his duty according to the ancient Jewish law of fathering children for one’s dead brother. "Judah said to Onan, ‘Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.’ But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife he spilled the semen on the ground, lest he should give offspring to his brother. And what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord, and he slew him also" (Gen. 38:8–10).
Contraception was so far outside the biblical mindset and so obviously wrong that it did not need the frequent condemnations other sins did. Scripture condemns the practice when it mentions it. Once a moral principle has been established in the Bible, every possible application of it need not be mentioned. For example, the general principle that theft is wrong was clearly established in Scripture; but there’s no need to provide an exhaustive list of every kind of theft."
Originally posted by digginforthetruth
While I don't agree with the manner in which he said it, I don't think contraception should be something thrown on the taxpayers. Why should I have to pay for it. I have been married for 10 yrs and we didn't have a kids until we were 5 yrs into it. We used condoms. We never used birth control, but even if we did, why the hell should I expect someone else to pay for it. I don't see birth control as health care. I see it as pregnancy prevention, not health care.
Originally posted by DoNotForgetMe
Reply to post by Skada
If insurance companies pay then others with the same company will have higher premiums. Technically taxpayers taxes will not pay for BC. But taxpaying Americans who struggle as it is cannot afford insurance that goes up everytime some punk wants an insurance company to pay for something that we the people should pay out of our own pockets if we choose to do so.
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Originally posted by SilentKillah
Originally posted by DoNotForgetMe
Reply to post by Skada
If insurance companies pay then others with the same company will have higher premiums. Technically taxpayers taxes will not pay for BC. But taxpaying Americans who struggle as it is cannot afford insurance that goes up everytime some punk wants an insurance company to pay for something that we the people should pay out of our own pockets if we choose to do so.
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BS man... I have Blue Cross Blue Shield Federal. You know what happened when Obamacare took effect? I received a letter from my heathcare insurance saying that I no longer need to pay a co-pay when my kids come in for a routine checkup. I then received $200.00 worth of checks from the Doctor's office for the co-pays that I had been paying every time I took my child to the doctor. Guess what?.. My payment actually stayed exactly the same rolling into this year.
This increased premium is the same thing people were saying about Obamacare... and I pay less at the end of the day.