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Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
My Daughter is on "the pill" due to a hormone issue. She becomes very depressed and the doctor prescribed "the pill" to solve the problem. It has worked wonderfully. But this was for a medical issue...not simply to keep from getting pregnant while having sex.
Are we really that blind???
Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
reply to post by mastahunta
Hey friend...if you re-read the last part of my post, maybe you will see what my comment meant. Oh...and read my PS. I think Rush messed up big time. But I am also against the level of control this (and most) governments want over the citizens.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
Rush Limbaugh's point was...if you can't afford birth control-don't have sex. How is that unreasonable?
The majority of this society doesn't agree with him.
Majority opinion = truth is a fallacy of logic. It's called "Argumentum ad Populum." A majority of society 100 years ago didn't think women and black people were capable of making an informed decision at the ballot box. Was the majority correct 100 years ago?
edit on 3-3-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Basic respect for women? No. I am a woman. I do not use contraception. I am catholic. Basic respect for women is not having sex with her if you do not respect her Enough to have a child with her. That is BASIC RESPECT!
How do you reconcile your vitriol with your Christian faith?
Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
reply to post by NorEaster
You corrected me for not being on topic...but the title of this thread is directly related to what I wrote. This is an issue of morality and not entitlement.
Basic respect for women? No. I am a woman. I do not use contraception. I am catholic. Basic respect for women is not having sex with her if you do not respect her Enough to have a child with her. That is BASIC RESPECT!
I am aware that contraceptives can be used for hormone imbalances, but a catholic would not use them for that. Catholics are educated in how contraceptives work and they are arbortifacients, therefore we are opposed to them being used for any purpose.
Only medicines that are needed to promote health should be mandated. This exclude pregnancy prevention, male pattern baldness and eylash thickening. Not one of thse is medically necessary.
The pill can be an abortifacient when it causes the lining of the uterus to malform. This causes a fertilized egg to not implant properly and is miscarried. This is the one of the moral objections. Paying for these pills-kills human life.
To understand abortifacients read:
www.pfli.org...edit on 3/3/2012 by Missing Blue Sky because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by KeliOnyx
Oh really I am Catholic and I use them for treatment of my condition. Just like somewhere between 85-98% of Catholic women use them for varying reasons.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by NorEaster
Wow, that's a ton of fluff.
So paraphrase for me, are you still under the impression that majority opinion determines truth?
How do you reconcile your vitriol with your Christian faith?
What "vitriol"?? lol
edit on 3-3-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Horsefly
No one is denied birth control in America the average cost of a condom is .20 cents. Wal-Mart
Has a plan that cost $200 for the year for pills. If she can afford to go to collage then she could certainly afford that. The problem is that she is asking for 3,000.00 a year, which would be more than 5 collages would need. And what about her partners seeing how they reaping the benefits of her sexual appetite they should pay. Where does it stop I cant afford a new car U should but me one. People need to stop looking for handouts especially now we cant keep spending more than we have on dumb things like this taxes are almost 50% now.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by KeliOnyx
Oh really I am Catholic and I use them for treatment of my condition. Just like somewhere between 85-98% of Catholic women use them for varying reasons.
Ms. Keli, this is not an attack on you but that statistic is wrong. There were problems with how the study methodology. The study only included Catholic women who frequently use birth-control. They excluded women who did not practice birth-control methods.
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by NorEaster
The law is the law, and these medicines are legal. Restricting women's comparatively equal access to them has been voted down in the Congress this week, and so here you are. We are a secular society. It's as simple as that. If you want to discuss truth, then check me out in the Metaphysics forum. I specialize in truth in that forum. Just don't hate me for what you learn if you do decide to take me on in that arena.
Jesus knows exactly what I'm referring to, and so do you. He doesn't forgive that sort of public display.
Public compassion is a mandate for the Christian, and regardless of what he or she genuinely feels in their heart.
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by KeliOnyx
Oh really I am Catholic and I use them for treatment of my condition. Just like somewhere between 85-98% of Catholic women use them for varying reasons.
Ms. Keli, this is not an attack on you but that statistic is wrong. There were problems with how the study methodology. The study only included Catholic women who frequently use birth-control. They excluded women who did not practice birth-control methods.
If that were true, then the % would have been 100%. Please. Your statement doesn't even make sense within itself. You completely contradicted the premise of your own statement by claiming that the study excluding women who don't practice birth control. It can be something you hate and still be true, you know. Perception isn't reality and it never has been.