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posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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Just googled the name Yohannes Riyadi and look what it popped up! LOL. Known as a scam name?


Notice the date it mentions the fed is aware, and the date the supposed $5trill transfers to HSBC Uk.



Scam Involving Yohannes Riyadi and/or Wilfredo Saurin
November 2007

The Federal Reserve is aware of a fraudulent scam involving individuals using the names Yohannes Riyadi and/or Wilfredo Saurin, or persons claiming to be representatives of these two men. In a typical version of this scam, Mr. Riyadi and/or his delegates falsely claim that they have on deposit with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York several U.S. Treasury Checks issued to Mr. Riyadi amounting to billions of dollars.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has been contacted by several brokers and financial institutions worldwide inquiring about the validity of this fraudulent account documentation, which is being offered as collateral for lines of credit or other types of asset based financing. The fraudulent scheme includes multiple documents which purport to have the signatures of various Federal Reserve officials, including Chairman Ben Bernanke.

In some instances, individuals involved in this fraudulent scheme claim to have met with Federal Reserve officials and claim to have verified that the alleged account is in order. We have also learned that the fraud may include the purchase of certain documents by the introducing brokers.

If you have information regarding this fraud please contact either Robert Amenta, Special Investigator at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, or Erik Rosenblatt, Senior Special Agent at the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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posted on Mar, 3 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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I found this on Ben Fulford's site in an article from 01/31/2012.

It's an indication of how money may be restructured.


The reason that many of the top Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate crooks have not been arrested yet is that the old system needs to be kept going with string and wire and duct-tape until final preparations for a radically new system are completed. For example, an Asian proposal now being negotiated calls for 10 million yen or about US$125,000 to be budgeted for each and every individual human being on earth. The Pentagon is also making similar radical proposals for a complete change of how humans interact with each other and with nature. The big conclusion being reached at the highest level is that the old financial system in the West was an illusion used by a secret cabal to keep us enslaved. We are now about to become truly free in ways that will exceed most people’s most optimistic expectations.


Source
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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The MSNBC report is mischievous. Discount rate lending to banks has been occurring for quite some time now. Perhaps as long as ~ 100 years since the Fed Reserve enactment. We (e.g. you and me) pay what's called the schmuk rate on interest. This stuff is mainstream economics as taught at universities & practiced across the United States and, possibly, elsewhere. That is why the report comes across to me as mischievous--an MSM outlet portraying that they did not know what was going on. Hell, it only took a MSM outlet 100 years to figure this out? Yeah right. And I'm not directing my sarcasm at you. It's an interesting find, but my impression is that of an MSM organization playing both sides of the fence to cover their fourth point of contact.

Can't speak about other central banks' practices across the globe, but the U.S. Fed is ... weird. They are described as a quasi public/governmental organization. Moreover, they are the authority on USD money supply, and yet the Dept. of Treasury is the authority on printing money. I ask: how does this make any sense? It doesn't. The Fed simply punches numbers into a computer and "out of nothing" money exists by virtue of government backing by a quasi private/governmental institution. I mean this is the stuff of science fiction novels if you ask me. But it's so damn funny because it's true.

A brief digression: Why are mainstream economists fearful of deflation? Probably because it's a creation of their inflation. Another infinitely weird outcome.
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:48 AM
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That is how it is supposed to work, the problem is the rates are supposed to fluctuate using that system. However, Greenspan was holding the rate fixed to maximize their scam profits; this created the massive economic bubble, and helped add trillions to the overwhelming national debt, besides Bush launching a war no one was behind, he had the go ahead for Afghanistan but not for Iraq. That's why we had allies for the Afghan conflict but very few for Iraq. We have had over twelve years of one corrupt family, trying to rape the US for their own agenda. Fortunately, not everyone in Washington is corrupt. We do have some that are there that take their oaths of office to represent the people, instead of just to make profit for themselves with backroom deals, lobbyists, and inside trading, like some are there for.

Fortunately, the tide is turning against those corrupt individuals; that are supposed to be working for us and not their own pockets. It is news stories such as this one that help turn the tide, and the politicians that are there for us, uncovering this corruption. They are the ones we need in office, the Federal Reserve has a very long history of corruption Andrew Jackson removed it during his presidency; however the Reserve paid the media to discredit him, and paint him as trying to become the King of America, they worked against him with all their might with fraud and everything else so he would not remain in office, they got their way Jackson was ousted and the Reserve reinstated.

It is nice to see that there is a building movement against the Federal Reserve, I think focus also needs to be placed on the Electoral college as well so elections cannot continue to be rigged. I will not vote in any major election until this voting scam is removed, our vote bears no weight until this happens; they will still keep installing puppets until the Electoral college is shut down, along with the Federal Reserve.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 01:53 AM
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The discount rate is supposed to fluctuate?

Add:

I'm trying to recall. If I remember the discount rate is a tool used to control/influence money supply. But yeah, you make a good point if I am remembering correctly.
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 02:17 AM
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Dylan Ratigan, points out exactly how the fraud was put into action, using multiple loopholes in different banking systems. The last link I gave a few posts up, describe some of it in better in detail than ever I could; as I am not an economist...but fortunately, I and many others can put two and two together well enough; to help get the word out so it doesn't get lost and forgotten by some subterfuge.

My suggestion for you; if you want to know how the scam was carried out, is to take notes from the videos and links; to see how it all worked in a more concise form. It would help us as well as those interested in the numbers game they played see it a bit more clearly...since a lot of information entwined confusticates the complete number game they set into action for the scheme.

I know that is a tall order, but perhaps if you wouldn't someone else out there that likes playing number games would like to?

Thanks everyone for your input and contributions
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 02:34 AM
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If you or someone you know lives in the UK, or has citizenship thereof please direct them to sign a petition for Lord James Blackheath found through this link: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks!
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posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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Mmmm .... numbers. Now I'm really curious.

Thanks for the reply and input. I still think the nascent underpinning of the Fed is based on sleight-of-hand Kabuki theatre, designed to spread ivory tower technocracy at the neglect of what Mises and others described as praxeology/human action. I want to clarify that's not R.P. deference speaking out either, but rather an examination of the Fed's structure and relationship with governmental bodies and private interests. In my mind its structure is like dynamite stored beside an incinerator--it's a disaster waiting to happen. That said I do agree with the points you're making and will dig into the bullet points laid out.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 04:12 AM
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Watched the link you referenced and noticed that the Congressman interviewed invoked hari-kari when describing the United States' 20% loss of wealth in 18 months under the Bush admin (note: my Kabukii theatre reference bears no relation to the Congressman's interview). Okay, he's a Democrat and no surprise that the buck stopped there.

The Congressman appeared to gently press that campaign finance reform is the vaccine necessary to prevent further economic downturns. I agree there's truth to that, yes, but it's not a full spectrum solution in my estimation.

In turning back to Mr. Ratigan I'll display some charity and recognize that he is reporting need-to-know information. Still, the discount rate has been and presumably always will outstrip the schmuck rate. It's the golden goose egg or whatever. Neither Mr. Ratigan nor the Congressman delve further and explain that by creating more money (i.e. money multiplier protocol) banks necessitate the need to create more money simply to pay the interest on the created money. That, in and of itself, is scam-worthy in my opinion. What store of value is in that money? The only answer I get is this: If you don't want your money then I'll take it. Of course that's not an answer, but deflection and merely recognizes that the pyschology of belief outweighs the reality of value. All said I interpret the creation of money via money mult. effect to represent illusion, or sleight-of-hand theatre as previously noted. Maybe it's just how a handful of dudes and gals can prevent their velvet gloves from getting dirty? I dunno.

After watching the vid.. I understood what you meant by rates fluctuating and agree. If it's eternal destiny for the U.S. to have a central bank then at the very least the chairman and entourage ought to conform interest rates according to market value. I imagine that's a political hot potatoe though, or more easily said than done at this juncture. Moreover, it still doesn't address the Fed's structure and our system of money creation. In my opinion there's a void in money's real (by real I mean its non psychological impact) store of value under fiat regimes. Granted the entire world is basically a fiat regime, but a raw look at the system makes me wonder why people honor as a medium of exchange money based on government decree when many governments do not control their money supply. And you know that if either one of us attempted to create and use currency for exchange among others we'd see a grand jury inidictment sooner than not. This demonstrates to me that states and powerful interests don't like competition, but rather monopolize on channeling its greatest resource (i.e. you, me, and all others) under a common currency. Granted there is utility in that, but it's based solely on political economy and does not reflect the aggregate schema that many people making transactions amongst themselves in times of crisis and/or scandal might choose instead. So rather than solve problems as a people thru economic interactions of our making we must succumb to the authority of a system that inhibits choice. I suppose there are many folks out there who are fearful of being afforded choice, but I'm not one of them.

In summary I pretty much embrace the idea that economic woe is instantiated by a lack of choice; and I doubt there's a solid arguement to be given that our choices are not limited at the level presently being discussed.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 05:33 AM
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Thanks for taking an interest in the numbers side of things.

It goes a bit further, than just the Ratigan story; he explains some of numbers and some of the who; to the why our debt jumped so far so fast, as of yet they didn't know the full why, but from testimony given in parliament the reason they were holding rates etc became clear...trillions were laundered away from the American people through the Federal Reserve, the rate fixing etc was to make those laundered trillions grow as well as suck every last bit out of us at the same time; a double whammy. The amount is at over 30 trillion now, the UK side of this was uncovered by Lord James of Blackheath, since they were trying to launder it through the UK, and were eventually able to through the Bank of Scotland using loopholes the link for that is on the first page I believe.

There was a con man Yohannes Riyadi trying to claim the money was his hampering the investigation, it became very clear he was conning when he claimed he traded some 350,000 tons of gold or so for government bonds...which was impossible he ever had that much gold, because the gold he claimed was roughly the same amount reportedly ever discovered. Although, he was more likely a pawn to have someone to claim the money through the Federal Reserve. Ron Paul and friends forced a bill through Congress to audit the Federal Reserve, and uncovered these transactions.

Bankers have been resigning in mass, to try and avoid the firestorm; there is current litigation involving this; we haven't been able to get much further than this because the Federal Court of Virginia has asked to keep media away so they can focus on getting it all squared away without a media circus hampering things. When this case is settled most of the laundered funds will go where it was meant to go; back into the American economy which will wipe out all of the American debt putting us far into the black at a surplus and actually making positive money. Believe it or not most of the funds were created by a plan set into action by Ronald Reagan, to end the cold war. Reagan did not trust George H.W. Bush and did not sign power of these funds over to him. However, the funds were able to be laundered despite Reagan's intentions to give it back to the people since it was ours.

So this is where things stand at the moment...The Ratigan story, the Blackheath story and the Banker story are all linked and are one in the same story. As this all keeps unfolding the more of the picture we get to see, the climax has yet to come.



posted on Mar, 4 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by sy.gunson
They are resigning because the ugly truth is that capitalism does not work.


Yes it does work and we just needed to enfoce the rules we had instead of allowing jewish bankers on a mission to bring about the end times for 'gods specail people' were put back in the box and the puppets they control are tried for treason.

Hard work needs a reward but faking figures on a spreadsheet and commiting fraud is not what i call hard work.

We need to get back to physical money like gold/silver because it lasted a dam site longer than any fiat paper has ever lasted and it works across borders plus it could not be devalued by the printing press.

$6t of US bonds turning up and being deemed as fakes by the USA must ring a few bells and this would never happen if we stuck to what worked in the past.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 04:30 AM
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good news: i called the office of Lord James of Blackheath this morning. His mailbox was full, and i got redirected to the switchboard, and they hooked me up with the information centre.

they confirmed: Lord James of Blackhealth is alive.


So the story about his death was a terrible hoax.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 05:09 AM
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So all the English newspapers carrying the story lied?



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 06:40 AM
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Could this be the beginning of all this situation in the chess board?

eclinik.wordpress.com...

And this the castling from TPTB?

kauilapele.wordpress.com...


If so, they didn't give the queen, yet.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 07:41 AM
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I know im a little of the mark here but the guy Lord james blackheath who exposed the 15 trillion dollar fraud in the english parliment 2 weeks ago is now dead.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 07:45 AM
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That's just a conspiracy theory. He's still with us.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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was the death hoax as well in newspapers?

I found it only on 2websites and both of them reffered to Wikipedia.

If it was in the newspapers, either yes, they lied. Or just did not do their fact checking job.

Anyone still doubting (or has other questions) here again the contact information of
Lord james of blackheath. www.parliament.uk...

This morning his anwsering machine was full (prolly lots of folks asking if he is still live...) so you ll get redirected to the switchboard, and they can connect you to information service.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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Any source / documentation to corroborate the GFL theory behind the resignations? Like others have said it is refreshing to see positive and encouraging news but when digging into the sources and it comes up "channelers" I really would want to have some corroboration.... of SOME kind. Any kind.

I see where Fulford agrees with what the GFL is saying but ultimately he points to them with regard to the Cabal saga, plus "secret unnamed sources" from here or there for the updates.

I see where "secret sources from the pentagon" say Bush 1 / Bill Gates were "arrested" or questioned. Is there ANY corroboration of ANY kind for that as well?

I could make a blogspot blog and say I have secret unnamed sources from the Pentagon telling me that the remote viewers saw Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate in a secret vault on 38th level of Area 51 and it says his father was a space alien, but until there is at least some shred of evidence for such a fantastic claim, well, it's merely fun discussion.

Which is fine, but ... GFL? I don't care if they are legit or not, if they are legit there ought to be some proof. Maybe I'm missing it??

There are a lot of hurting, depressed and scared people out there, if this Good News is a bunch of looney tunes bunk and it carries on such a long time people start to get hope - only to be a big gotcha, that would really stink to put it mildly.



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Thanks so much for calling his office; and helping debunk the hoax of his death; by getting confirmation he is still alive. If he returns your call; don't forget to address him as Lord Blackheath



posted on Mar, 5 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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James attracted some press and blog attention after another speech in the House of Lords on February 16, 2012, in which he claimed a massive 15 trillions money-laundering fraud from the United States Federal Reserve, offer to provide evidences and ask for an official investigation (Hansard, transcription 16 Feb 2012, Column 1016, from 5.20 pm).

As a direct result of his speech, well-known rumor mongers began to circulate news that James had been assassinated. From Lord of Blackheath himself: A quote often attributed to Samuel Clemens seems appropriate here, "Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."





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