Islam will take over Europe

They're trying to.

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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Replace Islam with Jews and you would be repeating the same rhetoric as the Nazi party. I bet half of you on here who have a problem with Muslims, would not have a problem if they were forced into concentration camps. some of you would actively call for it and offer your services as guards.

just invoking the National Socialists does not make it the same

reply to post by jNormal


I do feel it alot.

Also somethings in their culture are completely made up it dosnt say ANYWHERE in their bible that women have to cover up everything! some of them live way too much in the past...almost cave men like some of them.

reply to post by satron

European officials fault if they do.

Not just the officials, but the people's too. The people of Europe have rejected by and large any concrete religious views. This has left a vacuum, which Islam, and thereby Muslims, are filling.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Replace Islam with Jews and you would be repeating the same rhetoric as the Nazi party. I bet half of you on here who have a problem with Muslims, would not have a problem if they were forced into concentration camps. some of you would actively call for it and offer your services as guards.

bringing up crap like that to instill guilt no longer works on most people. and for the record jews are claiming a stake in europe as well. but don't take my word for it.

reply to post by wingsfan


that was back in 2007...
A lot has happened since then.

Besides, they are only buying what China isn't.

Also, we have a Muslim President
not a jewish one.

Islam will take over Europe?

OK, and where is the problem?

i don't think it's the fault of Islam...

It's the darn "political correctness" and the lack of spine of OUR, WESTERN culture...where we live in a society where people are not allowed to say "Christmas" anymore but instead need to use the word "Holidays"..since it could offend other religions...just to start with.

Could you imagine some people from the US or UK migrating to Iran....say, making 1% of the population there..and then IRAN coming up with laws that they should not celebrate Ramadan anymore or stop praying on their carpets on public...with "respect to the other people and religions in Iran"..etc..

This is just screwed up! Multi-Culti etc. is all good and fine, but there is no reason to deny our own heritage and traditions..and this is what we do.

reply to post by flexy123


Good point...

But if the population of Iran started becoming Christian,
Laws have already been passed to quash anything but Islam.

Even thier president has to be approved by the Grand Imam or ayetollah
or what ever thier pu-ba is.

Sharia Law is designed to be "fair" only to those who are of higher status in the "church"
A woman gets raped, then SHE led the guy on.

The rapist gets away and the husband(if there is one) saves face.

Not much fairness in those laws

Originally posted by Nammu
What the hell! This kind of bull crap extremeist biggoted thread makes me wish the good old days of ATS were back.

Christianity has been trying to take over the world for ever! Pot kettle black much?

Half the stuff i've read on this thread, similar stuff was said about the jews not so long ago.

Maybe Muslims want to move to western countries to get AWAY from barbaric laws, extremist views and sexism against women. Then they land into countries filled with racist biggoted right wingers that are really no different from the extremists anywhere else in the world.

Or they are born here and told they are not 'from' here, ostracised and made to listen to stinking viewpoints of intolerant people.

Sorry, but 3-6% of the entire population isn't 'taking over'.

You may think this because of where you live?
Where I live has already been dominated by Muslims. They're were recent threats from Muslim women to English women telling them to wear a Burka or they will kill them, also leaflets are being handed out saying Sharia Zone.

If you're saying they left their country to leave Sharia Law and join democracy, that is incorrect. Many demos and protests were planned out by Muslims calling for the death of Democracy and the introduction of Sharia Law. Also like I said they're handing out leaflets everywhere saying 'Sharia Law Zone'.
It's what I'm seeing first hand that makes me believe this, and also, it's only a conspiracy/theory.

Originally posted by detachedindividual
I think I should also ask, has anyone in this thread who is actively opposed to Islam ever read the Qur'an?

There are so many here who seem to have wildly idiotic views of something they are so abhorrently against, yet I'll bet my right testicle that not a single one of these people has actually read it.

If you want to preach to the people of the UK about what's so inherently wrong about Islam (or any other religion, for that matter) I would suggest that you read more and choose your sources wisely.

Don't be coming in here screaming about something you know absolutely sod all about, claiming to be some kind of prophet on the subject. You know nothing more than the right-wing press tells you. You're sheeple, swallowing the propaganda and then regurgitating it to others to back up your warped view.

Go away, read the Qur'an, then come back here and tell me again how dangerous and sick it is. Then maybe, just maybe, you might have some kind of credibility. Until then, the fanatical opinions of some on here are nothing more than a fart on the wind.

I've read the Qu'ran, there are many evil quotes in there, here is one that says mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.

The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:
65:1 O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden. (Maududi, vol. 5, pp. 599 and 617, emphasis added)

Here is another that says husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded).

The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:
4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (Haleem, emphasis added)

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Replace Islam with Jews and you would be repeating the same rhetoric as the Nazi party. I bet half of you on here who have a problem with Muslims, would not have a problem if they were forced into concentration camps. some of you would actively call for it and offer your services as guards.

That's where your wrong.
Islam and Nazism are two different sides of the same coin. They are actually very similar. They call for Worldwide Sharia Law and the killing of all Kuffars (non-believers) which means, we would all be dead, right?
Check out: www.TheReligionOfPeace.com... for all of their killings since 9/11, it's mad!


And like I've said before, it all depends on where you're from. If you're from US, Australia, Canada or other countries which do not have a high Islamic population, then you're fine for now. But if you're in the UK for example, I'm witnessing it first hand and it's not pleasant.

To all of you saying 'How will they get control, it's impossible!'
Well, it's a slow process.
If you look at this video: www.youtube.com...
It's a Labour MP (that's right, a member of Parliament) who talks about the number of Muslim MPs in Britain increasing until they have the power and are able to make use of it. I find this crazy that some people are completely oblivious to this!

It sure will but its all intentional due to the fact that our governments have sold us off to the highest bidder.

reply to post by jNormal


I used to think like you OP then I took alook around and realised there arent as many Muslims around compared to other groups and even if they have some areas that are mostly Muslim so what i have realised that not all Muslims goals are to conquest by breeding as Right-Wing idiots like the BNP would have you believe, many are friendly everyday people just like me and you and couldn't care less what a crack pot like Gaddafi is ranting about, they are human just like us and have compassion we are not all infidels to them many have lots of non Muslim friends. I sense a slightly racist undertone to your thread due to lack of awareness on your part I believe, one day you may realise that none of this matters in the slightest.

reply to post by jNormal


Damn, you guys are screwed...
Glad I live in the USA.
We are going to just get nuked, you guys have to live with this crap

reply to post by jNormal

You may think this because of where you live?

I've lived in Muslim majority areas, and still have a lot of Muslim friends.

Where I live has already been dominated by Muslims. They're were recent threats from Muslim women to English women telling them to wear a Burka or they will kill them, also leaflets are being handed out saying Sharia Zone.

There's extremists in all religions and areas. I was one beat up by a group of girls for being a girl with baggy trousers. No joke. Doesn't mean i think neds/chavs are taking over.

Sharia is a civil law. So they can use that for divorce and business matters if they so wish.

If you're saying they left their country to leave Sharia Law and join democracy, that is incorrect. Many demos and protests were planned out by Muslims calling for the death of Democracy and the introduction of Sharia Law. Also like I said they're handing out leaflets everywhere saying 'Sharia Law Zone'.

I didn't say that. I used the word 'maybe'. And just cause a few call for it doesn't mean the majority want it, or that they will win, or that they are taking over.

The main issue is a complete misunderstanding as to what Sharia is, and the lack of anyone actually researching what it is and what it means.

Calling for the death of democracy? They can spin on it, not gonna happen. Wanting their own civil law like other religions have got? Go ahead, it's their choice. Doesn't affect any of us.

reply to post by jNormal


So it's ok for Christians to pick and choose the parts of the bible they follow, but Muslims can't do the same? It was commonplace for all religions at that time to take child brides going back to babylon and egypt, they were all the same.

Mary was 13-15 when she had Jesus. Maybe God's a bit of a peado too then. Joseph was older and was a widower with children from his first wife apparently. Some scholars believe he may have been old as 50 or more when Jesus was born.

reply to post by Nammu




look, on one level there are extremists in all religions, but in modern day Britain there isn't really a comparable with Christianity- unless you jump in a tardis several hundred years to Britain of the 16th century