Islam will take over Europe

Originally posted by wingsfan
europe is for EUROPEANS!!!!!!!! not the whole world!!!! this bullsquak only, ONLY, is being pushed upon western countries and nowhere else. wake up libtards.

keep supporting multi-culturalism till you and yours are vanquished from the gene pool in your native lands. is ANY country that subscribes to this tripe actually better for it?? england, france, and germany will be totally lost within 10-20 years.

sharia=diarrhea

are you suggesting i ignore people i have known most of my life? middle eastern,african,
chinese and carribean to name a few or is your last line the tell?
there are bad eggs within all races and cultures so don't attempt to bend perceptions
in others less educated in these matters. mindsets like yours brought on krystalnacht.
best wishes and communication terminated.
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reply to post by jNormal


Islam IS taking over the west with our politicians backing them 100%. Look at Oslo, Norway. Girls cannot go freely in the streets at night in fear of being raped. (We're currently having HUGE issues with rape here, all by non-Western immigrants. Google/Youtube it: Muslim rape in Oslo)

I'm raised in the United States. I've had friends of all colors and creeds and never thought twice about it. But then I came to Norway, it opened my eyes. "We're all not the same" was the first thing I learned. I was a liberal, I didn't believe in borders. After just two short years here in Norway my views changed completely.

Time and time again Islamic leaders in Norway have proclaimed, "Norway will be a Muslim country!". Roves of Islamic youths go around beating up Norwegians because they're not Muslims. They attack Norwegian women for not being Muslim. I welcome anyone to come over to Norway, I'll personally take you around, let you speak with the people who've been harmed in one fashion or another by Islam. You'll also get to see it with your own two eyes.

All we need to do is to go to the "wrong part of Oslo" at night.

Also, to those barking about their "first amendment rights" - You do realize that AboveTopSecret.com is a PRIVATE website right? And as such, you're allowed to say what they allow you to say. This forum is private property, much like a house. And as a guest in that persons house, they can ask you to leave as the first amendment doesn't apply on private property as it does on an open street corner. Just an FYI.

Originally posted by jNormal

Originally posted by TrueInstinct

Originally posted by jNormal

Thats what the EDL are doing, they're the biggest anti-Islam movement ever and they are becoming rather popular in the US. However it's a shame they are labelled racist, bigot, zionist football hooligans.

What they do not realize that it is the Zionists who have created this situation.
It is pretty obvious that they want to exterminate the white race.
We have bowed to their wishes in every way. We attempt to love and understand these people.
We give in to their wishes. Foot baths have been put in airports for them. We take down our Xmas decorations. We don't say Merry Christmas.
We call each other "racists".
I wonder when we will stop raising pigs that offend them so much.

Certainly they knew we were a ham eating country, so why would they want to come here?

reply to post by jNormal


Call me whatever you would like, but i know im not the only one who thinks this. Islam is one of the most, if not THE MOST barbaric excuse for a religion in the entire world. It serves no purpose, the radicals far out weigh the good level headed believers. The way they spread there half ass stone ages beliefs is just sickening, how they have Europe in a stranglehold is sad. If something like this happens in America, better believe that the 2nd amendment will be used to the fullest. I claim no religion, and my personal view on religion itself is very very low, but on Islam..I truly am disgusted.
Islam ruins everything, for everyone, everywhere PERIOD.
There is only one way to deal with cancer, and keep it from spreading,
Eradicate it.

reply to post by BellaSabre

Why are you suggesting that all Muslim women be raped, then be put to death because of it, and that this odious plan is carried forth until they as a people cease to exist?

"Genocide much."

Is it not genocide to tell the whole world or host countries that you either convert or have your throat cut? Answer me this question? When it does come down to this, whatever means necessary, is a viable weapon to use against those who are already using it in Norway as another poster already has told us. Know your enemy. These people are mistaking kindness for stupidity. No, I do not approve of raping anyone! But, when push comes to shove all weapons will be utilized.

This is the respect they show to their host country America which they chose to immigrate to. This is their thank you.

While I agree that Islam poses a threat to the west, I think the government poses a far greater threat.

Originally posted by TrueInstinct

Originally posted by jNormal
I also believe theres a very blatant 2 tier system in Britain. One rule for us and another for them (Muslims). The british court are afraid of punishing a Muslim because they will be called racist. The two tier system and government is getting awful now.
I'm not saying multi-culturalism has failed, not at all, us Britons have managed to mix with Sikhs, Jews, Homosexuals, Blacks etc... It's just the Muslims and Islam that have failed to integrate.

These are words coming from a 16 year old boy, I'm actually afraid to think of mine and future generations living under an Islamic state.

There's no way Britain would become an Islamic state without a fight. If it gets bad, people will wake up and realise what's happening.

With what weapons?

Originally posted by Auricom
reply to post by jNormal

 

Islam IS taking over the west with our politicians backing them 100%. Look at Oslo, Norway. Girls cannot go freely in the streets at night in fear of being raped. (We're currently having HUGE issues with rape here, all by non-Western immigrants. Google/Youtube it: Muslim rape in Oslo)

I'm raised in the United States. I've had friends of all colors and creeds and never thought twice about it. But then I came to Norway, it opened my eyes. "We're all not the same" was the first thing I learned. I was a liberal, I didn't believe in borders. After just two short years here in Norway my views changed completely.

Time and time again Islamic leaders in Norway have proclaimed, "Norway will be a Muslim country!". Roves of Islamic youths go around beating up Norwegians because they're not Muslims. They attack Norwegian women for not being Muslim. I welcome anyone to come over to Norway, I'll personally take you around, let you speak with the people who've been harmed in one fashion or another by Islam. You'll also get to see it with your own two eyes.

All we need to do is to go to the "wrong part of Oslo" at night.

Also, to those barking about their "first amendment rights" - You do realize that AboveTopSecret.com is a PRIVATE website right? And as such, you're allowed to say what they allow you to say. This forum is private property, much like a house. And as a guest in that persons house, they can ask you to leave as the first amendment doesn't apply on private property as it does on an open street corner. Just an FYI.

That is why tolerance is the gravest sin against a society. People have a fundamental right to defend their right to self determination.

I'm Pro Palestinian and "Pro Iranian" when it comes to their sovereignty and safety against the Zionists and Israel.

With that said...Islam is taking over major populated areas through Immigration in Europe and Indigenous white cultures are suffering the most.

FACT

reply to post by jNormal


Heres what I think.

I think you came here and posted to provoke a particular reaction, born out of fear mongering, paranoia and ignorance.

About time someone admits that our truth is the right path, Islam taking over the world would mean the biggest peace since centuries. I doubt it will happen because to many people are against peace. But one day when the Mahdi and Jesus will return, that day there will be no unbelievers.

What the hell! This kind of bull crap extremeist biggoted thread makes me wish the good old days of ATS were back.

Christianity has been trying to take over the world for ever! Pot kettle black much?

Half the stuff i've read on this thread, similar stuff was said about the jews not so long ago.

Maybe Muslims want to move to western countries to get AWAY from barbaric laws, extremist views and sexism against women. Then they land into countries filled with racist biggoted right wingers that are really no different from the extremists anywhere else in the world.

Or they are born here and told they are not 'from' here, ostracised and made to listen to stinking viewpoints of intolerant people.

Sorry, but 3-6% of the entire population isn't 'taking over'.

I couldn't agree more. Unfortunatly I've had the displeasure of walkin through there a few times and its, for want of a better word, scary! You get glared at as if your the outsider. Sharia4uk stickers everywhere. I refuse to allow my girlfriend to walk through there at any time. The teenage lads and old men alike jeer and snarl and hiss at women, its sickening. The sheer volume of them hanging around street corners and shops I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for them to snatch a young lady off the street!

That being said however, I whole heartedly oppose the EDL and BNP. They are run by a bunch of racist thugs and accept any old idiots just to swell there numbers. The un educated under achievers of the white populous in this country use it to portray there 'anger' and blame there lack of skills and failure at life on 'immigrants'. Watch This Is England (the film). That's exactly what's happening again. I agree something needs to be done against the obvious imposing of islam on the country but the fight back can not be lead by these male chickens!

Don't get me wrong. I am NOT racist. My girlfriend is chinese. Some of my best friends are of all differant races and faiths and they feel how I do. This is a issue that needs serious debate in parliment. Encouraging people to sign an e petition would be the best start. I'm on my mobile on a train at the moment but when I get on my laptop I shall edit in some links.

CR4V3N

well, here in France, Islam is taking over. There is no doubt in my mind. I came here a hippy raised california liberal, who had spent all my childhood either in an all mexican school, then mostly black, and just hadn't learned to distinguish anyone from anyone else.
I am now racist. Took me a few years, before I stopped admonishing anyone who looked at an arab suspiciously and realized there was reason- real reason. Few years later we left an urban area where we had been harrassed, our kids beaten, our house bombed twice, by the local muslims from the free housing project down the street. We moved up in the mountains, with lots of land, where we can see someone coming from miles away.

I get so tired of going into detailed description of the situation here, people seem to have no idea, and they don't believe me anyway. I get accused of being a fanatic, or a stoner. So I won't bother. I'll just say- let's watch what happens in the next few years. Christianity took over as the main religion in the west through these very means, and it just might be the way things go- maybe it is karmic? I don't know. But I am willing to bet my grandaughter will be wearing a veil by the time she is an adult. I can only hope that as with Christianity, as it disperses and diffuses, it calms down to a less brutal, destructive and severe form.
With time, Christians slowed down on burning "witches" and heretics, stopped demanding self flagelation and sacrifice, and became less forceful. I'll probably not see that evolution. But at this point, I no longer see their taking over as escapable.

Why didnt you use the search function? You would have found billions of threads similar to this one - with the same fear mongering agenda where you could post your populistic opinion. Are they only paying by the number of threads today?

Islam will never take over Europe, it's impossible. I see loads of muslims, third generation descendents, accept european/christian values. For an example, more and more muslim kids wish to celebrate christmas because all their classmates do it. And that's just one example of many.

As for the fact that there are muslims in the UK, get over it. You cant expect to colonise/enslave them and exploit their resources without any consequences. You cant bomb their countries into oblivion and expect not to see any refugees.

Biggest threat to western culture is greed and materialism, not Islam or any other religion.

reply to post by jNormal


I have to say although I respect your opinion, I disagree. I look to places where Islam has been in history and only see a contribution enriching the nation they lived in. Even in Spain where Muslim moors were there in the form of conquerors, and see only the lasting positive contributions made.

I have always been a little suspicious of immigration fear. I look at England and see a country in need of diversity. That has always been the hallmark of the UK, with its former empire enriching it on a deep cultural level.

The tensions created there and elsewhere are mostly artificial in nature and engineered so as to create animosity amongst the common man.

I see no thirst for world conquest by immigration. I see that argument as silly. They cannot invade a country without a military, and less so with a civilian population that usually is not even financially independent from the system they share. They need to work and incorporate themselves in order to survive.

Immigration is no threat militarily. It can be argued that they are a drain on society and the such, but since they work where possible and tend to try and live peaceful lives on the whole it is almost incomprehensible to say they are "conquering" the world through immigration.

The force of world conquest I do see is a western one. I have to say I am a little ashamed of being a member of said society.

I would argue that if we were not destabilizing their own lands they would not have the need to immigrate to far of lands in order to secure the wealth we divert to our nations.

They would take advantage of their own resources and enjoy the peace we enjoy in our countries in their own nations. This mass immigration we see of many poorer people is directly linked to our presence in all parts of the world militarily.

If your issue is truly their immigration into your land, then perhaps the source of that immigration would concern you as well. I think that the destabilization of their countries for greater wealth at upper echelon of your society is of no service to you personally or socially, so the immigration being a negative attribute to your situation is of lesser disservice to your nation than the effect that military presence globally has being the source of that and other woes.

reply to post by jNormal


Ahem...the past decade you mean?

Originally posted by BarmyBilly
Islam won't take over Europe, because i'm still alive and with an iron fist we will rid Europe of Islam once more!

I would not be too sure, why is it muslim rapes and robberies go un-reported in the UK main stream media? do some research, like jihad watch, rantburg, and atlas shrugs, if the mods don't delete this, that is.

Originally posted by BIHOTZ
reply to post by jNormal

 

Immigration is no threat militarily. It can be argued that they are a drain on society and the such, but since they work where possible and tend to try and live peaceful lives on the whole it is almost incomprehensible to say they are "conquering" the world through immigration.

It sounds as if the situation is very different in the UK. So I will tell you that in France at least (and some of the northern countries, I have been told by friends there) are experiencing that it IS very possible for a peoples to take over without military.

Because they practice polygamy, they are reproducing at an enormous rate- much faster than the french. The percentage of the population that is Muslim is 50% in some cities... and rising.
They are VOTERS.

They also are not integrating, as it sounds some Brits are claiming is happening- that is not the case here. Islamic extremism is rising here, taking the place of their grandparents peaceful Islam which got along with their french environment fine in the past- their grandchildren have no such desire or even comprehension of laicism, or secularism. They also have well learned that they can do whatever they want, and not respect any of the national laws, because any attempt by the authorities to respond ot them as they would any white person doing the same thing is answered with massive destruction in the cities by that population, and cries from the socialists of racism.
We have many friends who are police and gendarmes, and they have orders not to arrest arabs, and to turn the other way no matter what they are up to. They can commit crimes in full daylight and the police have orders to turn around and walk away!-because they cannot afford the massive destruction it would bring about.

This is how you take over a country without the use of military. You reproduce like rabbits and do it slowly. Until you are the majority- because that is who wins in a democracy.

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I think your excuse of us being at war in muslim countrys is bollocks. EDIT: I muddled your post with someone else and I realise this statement is not valid towards you. But directed at those who support this theory.

The 2001 UK census found that 51% of Muslim living in the UK were born here
It also states that the Muslim community is 1.5 million in number
There are 350,000 Muslim households (source: MCB)
Roughly half of the Muslims in the UK are between the ages of 25–35 (source: Census) 

11 years on I'm sure the figure is higher than 51%

2009 report estimates upto 85 operating sharia countrys.
www.bbc.co.uk...

So, more people are born in the country than come here and clearly more and more are supporting the use of sharia councils.

www.dailymail.co.uk... ocial-moral-implications.html

Now, how is this above acceptable? If I went to any muslim country in the world, lived in a western community and then declared our community could drink, smoke, party, have sex with whoever we liked and adhere to our own courts we set up ourselves we'd be kicked out so fast if we were not already killed. And before you say I would have offended them and there faith and its only right. Then this oppresive law they want all in the uk to adhere to cannot be supported because this is offending me and my beliefs. Unless you live in an area of the UK where you can see the direct results of what we are discussing then don't start throwing around comments about fear mongering, blah blah. This is a real issue that needs to be addressed as I previously stated. Has sod all to do with racism and fear mongering and is not a direct result of immigration as the links show so your argument is fundermentaly flawed.