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Originally posted by OldCurmudgeon
so where are all the missing documents, why is it so darn difficult to produce a copy of the original birthday certificate as the Hawiian authorities themselves have stated it is in fact 'there' in a bound book...
Originally posted by pcrobotwolf
reply to post by LErickson
wow I give you the link and you act like you didnt get it in the other thread but comment here what a tool
Originally posted by OldCurmudgeon
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by OldCurmudgeon
[rolls eyes]
What if Reagan wasn't born in the US?
What a stupid question...
The ACTUAL fact is sir that the issue has been settled many many times because the law is CLEAR... if you are born in the US you are a natural born citizen...
Read up on Jus soli... that's the basis... it's not in any way controversial...
en.wikipedia.org...
The geographer Jared Diamond has calculated that if the application of jus soli since 1850 were abolished, 60% of Americans and 80% of Argentinians would lose their citizenship, and 25% of British and French.
edit on 10-3-2012 by captainnotsoobvious because: (no reason given)
Laughs at eye rolling.... lol
And yes, I agree, you are correct IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, and again to the point, IF, IF, IF, IF, IF President Obama was born in Hawaii is the IF here... to this point, there is obviously 'probable cause' per investigative information to believe he may not have been.
And the decision has never been 'clear' by any stretch of the imagination, and will NEVER be until SCOTUS rules on it... so the debate is as to the place of Mr. Obama's birth... and this is quite questionable.
I agree too that the idiocy of the suit filed in your previous link is just that... idiocy and was thrown out on the idocy and lack of legal basis... but again, there is no clear cut decision as to date regarding even your point as there have been NO irrefutable legal proof presented regarding the actual birthplace of Barak Obama, our President. AND, regardless of all the boo hah about what is fair and what isn't, we all left the fifth grade play ground long ago and live in the real world where Law rules.... so where are all the missing documents, why is it so darn difficult to produce a copy of the original birthday certificate as the Hawiian authorities themselves have stated it is in fact 'there' in a bound book... I can go to the county of my birth here in the US, walk in and get an actual copy of the document and if necessary, get a local judge to produce a court document authenticating the original.
And if you're going to say, Mr. Obama should not have to do that, then I say, BS... although President, Barak Obama is afforded no more freedoms under the constitution of the US than I and in fact, his reluctance and insistence to not produce the proof it in itself makes him suspicious and conspicious to conspiracy theory. He should grow a pair and get this behind us.
Oops... almost forgot... and given the fact there are many very notable legal academics across the country, one of whom I mentioned earlier which stated that the law is not even conclusive and fact that someone born outside the US to two parents who are US citizens (and President Obama was not) is in fact considered to be 'natural born'.edit on 10-3-2012 by OldCurmudgeon because: (no reason given)edit on 10-3-2012 by OldCurmudgeon because: correct typing errors
Arpaio asserts that his investigators discovered, during a 6 month long investigation which is ongoing, not only was the "Long Form" likely a digitally created forgery, but the presidents Selective Service Card (Draft Card), allegedly filed in 1980, was also a forgery. These documents are what Barack Hussein Obama relies upon to prove his constitutional eligibility to the office of President of the United States.
Forged documents are being used to qualify a President of the United States for the office he holds. Or is usurped the more accurate term?
The silence from the main stream media in the US is deafening. It almost seems as if the press is terrified to even think the question, let alone ask it: Is the President a criminal? The press in Arpaio's audience were certainly asking him to state precisely that, yet nowhere has the question been asked of the White House by the press. Instead the American Press is aggressively protecting the presumed President of the United States, pushing the fraud upon both America and the world, supporting a man who may well have usurped the office.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
Not sure how much of a case can be built when the whole investigation has been turned into a book that is available on Amazon.
No serious investigator would sell his investigations before using it to charge the person he is investigating...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by juristbooks
reply to post by anon72
Some of the replies to this are great. Free-thinking people are so refreshing. Personally, I believe Obama was born in Kenya from an American mother and a Kenyan (African) father. he was not born on US soil nor a military base. Days later the mother travels to Hawaii and fakes his birth there.
As regards this whole issue, most people are right, it doesn't really matter. Corruption is too deep and he will be out of office soon. Maybe then a deep investigation will prove he is all African.
As regards his family. If all the rest are Muslim and he was trained and brought up as Muslim, why should anyone believe he is not in fact - Muslim ?
But, nothing will happen until he is out of office, and we need to find out which power-brokers schemed to get their lacky puppet into office. Indict & Convict them [all ] for treason and apply Braveheart justice !
Originally posted by juristbooks
reply to post by anon72
Some of the replies to this are great. Free-thinking people are so refreshing.
Personally, I believe Obama was born in Kenya from an American mother and a Kenyan (African) father. he was not born on US soil nor a military base. Days later the mother travels to Hawaii and fakes his birth there.
Originally posted by Brandon88
reply to post by Skewed
He should be removed from office and anything he has done should be null and void.
Originally posted by drgrantdiz
Originally posted by Brandon88
reply to post by Skewed
He should be removed from office and anything he has done should be null and void.
i think this would be easier said then done, even if he were removed from office it would be hard to undo the lasting financial effects of obamacare and of course the stimulous. Really we can't avoid the repercussions of obama's actions even if we were able to remove him from office.
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Originally posted by drgrantdiz
Originally posted by Brandon88
reply to post by Skewed
He should be removed from office and anything he has done should be null and void.
i think this would be easier said then done, even if he were removed from office it would be hard to undo the lasting financial effects of obamacare and of course the stimulous. Really we can't avoid the repercussions of obama's actions even if we were able to remove him from office.
Yes, damn that pesky stimulus, which made the depression so less bad than it might have been and which was started off by the nasty Democrat George W Bush!