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Originally posted by Alfie1
Originally posted by olliemc84
My uncle lives in Newburgh, NY, and lives very close to Stewart ANGB. He pretty much knows the ins and outs of the flightpaths coming in and out of the airport. On 9/11 he saw two airliners flying in what his words was "an extremely low altitude" considering they weren't landing at Stewart. He saw BOTH jets screaming down the Hudson River.
Two planes hit the WTC building. A cruise missile hit the Pentagon, and IMHO flight 93 was intended to crash somewhere in the middle of Pennsylvania. Nothing like a harrowing story of a group of civilians fighting the big bad terrorists for the good of the country.
And IF 93 had an intended target, it was probably either a) building #7 or b) Indian Point Energy Center.
If your uncle saw two airliners together he wasn't seeing the WTC flights.
Originally posted by daaskapital
A whole range of things could factor into his use of language.
1- He wanted to provide his full name, so whoever picked up the phone knew who it was immediately.
2- He was in a highly stressful situation, his brain could have been anywhere.
There are many many more
Originally posted by Tholidor
Case in point: As Air Traffic Controllers we were trained to end every call on the landline/intercom with our two letter "operating initials" (usually first and last initial of our names). This was for ID purposes should the communication tapes need to be reviewed after an incident. It took almost six months (and a LOT of kidding from friends and family) after leaving the job for me to stop ending every phone call with "WB".
Originally posted by Tholidor
While there are many things about that day which cast serious doubt on the "official story", I don't really see the Mark Bingham call as being one of them.
Telephone protocols quickly become habitual over time. In this case, it has been stated that Mr. Bingham was in an occupation wherein he initiated and recieved many phone calls per day. In a business setting, it quickly becomes second nature to identify yourself by both first and last name when using the phone. Even under normal circumstances this learned behavior quickly becomes automatic. Under stress this hard-wired procedure is almost impossible to avoid no matter who you are calling.
Case in point: As Air Traffic Controllers we were trained to end every call on the landline/intercom with our two letter "operating initials" (usually first and last initial of our names). This was for ID purposes should the communication tapes need to be reviewed after an incident. It took almost six months (and a LOT of kidding from friends and family) after leaving the job for me to stop ending every phone call with "WB".
It really does not matter where Mr. Binghams mom was when she received the call, as it has been stated that the call was made to HER mobile phone.
Again, there were so many suspicious occurances on 9/11 that it is hard to list them but the Bingham phone call doesn't seem to be one of them in my opinion.edit on 2-3-2012 by Tholidor because: (no reason given)edit on 2-3-2012 by Tholidor because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Human_Alien
If 5000 other questionable events weren't linked to that day (prior and post too) then there wouldn't be that much attention drawn to this. But as a parent and having parents, there is no logical excuse or explanation for this in my mind.
That day..... in all likelihood..... did not go down the way we were told.
It really does not matter where Mr. Binghams mom was when she received the call, as it has been stated that the call was made to HER mobile phone.