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A Fragment of the Starchild’s FOXP2 Gene is Recovered

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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:12 PM
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

And, the likelihood of an alien having this gene suggests a divine creator. Because it sure as hell isn't going to pop up on another planet doing the same job in the same way, on the same order.

So many forget to understand this. You are not going to find mutated human dna for aliens. You are going to find alien dna that is nothing like the human genome. The likelihood of another species being in any way genetically similar to us so as to merit the title "star child" is hilariously close to zero.

At best, all this shows is possible genetic engineering technology of an advanced human civilization eons ago.
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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:35 PM
Does the DNA match the DNA of a skull eating bug common in El Paso or Central Mexico? Inquiring minds want to know.Who were these funny headded people? The DNA may not be from the actual being that used the skull.
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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:35 PM
I saw a show about the StarChild's Skull, and they compared a Human Skull cavity size, with the StarChilds Cavity of its skull, using some sort of materal they poured it into the cavities, and The StarChild could hold much more material inside the cavity of the Skull, I guess it had a Huge brain.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:45 PM

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by Nicolas Flamel

Given the abnormalities of the "Starchild" has anyone considered the differences in the FOXP2 gene are the result of naturally occurring genetic mutations in FOXP2?
One could assume the mother of such a defective primate bathed in a pool of radioactive waste. The number of differences in the FOXP2 gene are so high that if they were defects the thing would never have been born in the first place, and it certainly would have come out looking much worse than that. It'd be like randomly jumbling the sequences and expecting it to come out alive. Just not going to happen.

There are more ways than just radiation that cause mutations. There are spontaneous mutations and induced mutations caused by chemicals or radiation.

Some mutations are so large that not just one gene is effected but entire chromosomes which are made up of many genes.

Abnormalities can range from a small mutation in a single gene to the addition or subtraction of an entire chromosome or set of chromosomes.

Causes of chromosome diseases: Chromosomal diseases arise from huge errors in the DNA that result from having extra chromosomes, large missing sequences, or other major errors. These are usually caused by a random physical error during reproduction and are not inherited diseases (i.e. both parents are usually free of the condition).

Down Syndrome involves having 3 chromosomes 21, instead of the just the usual 2 chromosomes. This involves many genes, not just one.

Cri-du-chat syndrome (cat's cry) has an entire arm of chromosome 5 missing, again involving a large number of genes.

FOXP2 is associated with speech and probably would not be fatal in and of itself. It doesn't look like the child survived long anyway.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:47 PM

Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by bottleslingguy

Wyhat I can't figure out is whether they produce all this BS for money or simply because they believe their faulty methods? I think it might evne be a combination. This Starchild thing is a real riot. I can't believe how many believe it. You're sucked in hook line and sinker. You're too clueless to help yourself.

When these phonies start linking up with credible people and methods then I'll start paying attention.
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I think that they all start out with noble causes, decorum and beliefs....

Greer, wilcox, Pye, ( Pye is not in the same league as the first two for pure craziness now)

Its all exciting at first, stuff to be tested , evidence to be trawled and people to interview, the masses start to pay attention .. they get big followings.. and then thier claims are debunked slowly and surely...

Now they love the people that follow them ( and revenue from Lectures, books , videos ) and after their initial claims are mostly refuted, start coming up with more and more outlandish claims... the money .. the followers they just can't give up thier status.... eventually you start taking pictures of moths and telling people they are evidence of you having regular contact with alien beings that sit on your shoulder whispering to you what a bad human race you are...

Power corrupts....

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:49 PM

Originally posted by PhoenixOD

With the Starchild Skull, the partial results obtained by our geneticist at the DNA lab we work with are every bit as reliable, and as compelling, as those from Max Planck. He uses the same analytical techniques, and his results are what theirs are—partial but compelling. And, like the geneticists at Max Planck, to put our geneticist’s results beyond all doubt, he has to complete them at least 30 times over, to the same extraordinary level of certainty.

Who is this geneticist and where is this lab? This all seems a bit vague. Why would anyone believe stuff that isnt backed up by an official report produced by a named scientist from a named credible laboratory?

This isnt news...its a blog.

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A forensics expert at Quantico perhaps... who doesn't want or need exposure would be a good guess.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:57 PM

So funny how when I woke up yesterday I thought about starchild out of nowhere, and now I see this!

Thanks for this post!

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:57 PM
Obviously a lens flare.
(on the genome)

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 01:02 PM
This is very exciting to find out the Starchild skull is not human.. Even if it's not extraterrestrial in origin it's still very exciting IMHO.. We may have a new species on our hands.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 01:16 PM

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by maryhinge
reply to post by bottleslingguy

i always wondered why some would not do
the tests when they heard the name starchild
now we know why if true i do hope so

Show me proof an independent lab turned down their normal fee and refused to test this DNA.

It's just a question of funding; Ancient DNA is difficult and therefore time consuming to extract. Also it's an unkown species so regular primers don't work on it, making it a very difficult process. There is no question that it can be done but they don't have the money yet.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 01:18 PM
Obama provides birth certificate - nobody on ATS believe it's real.

Some guy on the internet claims he has alien DNA with no proof provided - Everyone on ATS believes it.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 01:21 PM
I keep reading "why wouldn't they want to say who they are or what lab did the tests" and "why isn't this making news" and "there's not enough evidence:"

Do you guys remember that article a couple of days ago (I skimmed it, can't remember much- sorry) But it was about a lady with a weird name (I believe she was in the science field) and the article was about how they don't talk about extraterrestrial life because it's classified? So any talk of it is off limits?

Does anyone remember this article? I wish I could remember the title.

Could that be the reason?
Am I reaching?

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 01:31 PM
found it.

Extraterrestrial Life is a censored subject says Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe!

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 01:39 PM
I find it humoring moist times that people quickly assume it has to be alien. I don't reject the possibility but nothing exists to verify that. We are essentially all aliens by those terms. I can easily accept that there were other species similar or close to how we evolved. It's not that big of a deal. If this truly is genuine science then that's a cool thing. If not then it leaves something to our imaginations.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:03 PM
reply to post by sealing

obviously a chinese lantern
(on the genome) oh wait...

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:14 PM
I would think the bigger named genetic facilities ur looking for would/could easily be silenced. Or they probably wouldn't say they found anything THAT genetically foreign in fear of hurting their reputation. The vast majority of people reading that would instantly go for the little green men term and probably not take it seriously at all.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
And once again Pye presents no actual lab report, no name of the facility where the testing was done, and no direct quotes from an actual scientist to verify what he says. I'll wait until someone with a stronger background in genetics takes a look at this as Pye has misunderstood and misrepresented results every step of the way.

First thing I looked for as well. Of course it's not present. The "Donation" button is still there though. Same old, same old.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:54 PM
Peer reviewed science or it didn't happen. Some blog that lacks the name of the lab, its location, and a published report in a peer reviewed journal, is certainly not enough to convince me of anything. Sorry.

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:06 PM
reply to post by TheStev

Yes, where is the proof? Are you telling me some geneticist proved this skeleton is of extraterrestrial descent, and he didn't want the credit?

posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:22 PM

And, the likelihood of an alien having this gene suggests a divine creator. Because it sure as hell isn't going to pop up on another planet doing the same job in the same way, on the same order.
reply to post by Gorman91

Do we even know any other successful chemical combinations for DNA other than the ones here on Earth?

Perhaps there is little variation in DNA coding?

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