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A Fragment of the Starchild’s FOXP2 Gene is Recovered

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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Yes it is important to stress the fact we don't know whether or not this data is really legitimate, because I don't want to get all excited over something that turns out to be a hoax. When he presents a detailed lab report with the name(s) of the scientists that conducted the analysis I will be a bit more convinced, but at this point it doesn't appear he has offered any such report.


Ok i follow...
But how is it that what you say
says its NOT earth originated?
Well, I guess it doesn't say with 100% certainty that the thing is of an extraterrestrial origin, but I would say if the data is correct there's a good 95% chance this thing is not completely terrestrial in nature. It's not extremely old, and it appears to resemble a primate. The degree to which it differs genetically compared to other Earth primates, including ourselves, is just beyond any rational answer as I see it. The only way I can really see how to explain why it is so different from Earth primates is that it isn't from Earth.
edit on 1-3-2012 by ChaoticOrder because: I meant "not extremely old"




posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Have they compared the "starchild" DNA to allegedly "known" bigfoot/Sasquatch DNA? Maybe its a bigfoot/human hybrid. Would be interesting to know, IMHO.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Wasnt the DNA already tested by reputable institutions twice and determined human?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:02 AM
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Welcome to the world of pseudoscience. Their motto: "Never let common sense and contrary evidence get in the way of perpetuating a myth (especially if you can make money with it!)." The starchild is a case of Hydrocephalic skull. An awful and rare affliction, but not alien in origin........






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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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Finally we'll realize that we weren't the first!

Just because our current ecosystem can't explain this thing doesn't mean it's extraterrestrial. It might just mean that our current ecosystem is extraterrestrial. There are infinite possibilities.

However, I need to see some reports, reviews and other credibility building practices before I subscribe to this "evidence". It could just as easily (actually easier) be fake.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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There was an explosion of retractions of from published studies last year, mostly due to fraud.

The escalation of expectations of results and the want to be proven right as quickly as possible isn't necessarily a good combination.

I want to see published results. Last guy on this board who actually published his "star people" results, when I pinged it against a y-dna database it essentially proven that if he's from Mars my family must be from across the Universe. His result matches out of Europe literally went on for pages.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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Sounds like Genesis 6 nonsense happening again. Daniel said it would happen when "they" mingled themselves with the "seed of man".

If "they" are mingling with the seed of men, that means "they" are not humans.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
And once again Pye presents no actual lab report, no name of the facility where the testing was done, and no direct quotes from an actual scientist to verify what he says. I'll wait until someone with a stronger background in genetics takes a look at this as Pye has misunderstood and misrepresented results every step of the way.





Unfortunately, the whole starchild "testing" has been that way.

Very similar to Rael Cult in the 90's claiming to have cloned humans in international waters.
No tests,proof,or picture.





posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Hydrocephaly is often suggested as the cause of the unusual parietal bossing (bulging of the bones at the rear sides of the skull) in the Starchild Skull. It is a condition where an abnormal accumulation of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in the cranium causes an increase in internal pressure that pushes outward against the skull, giving it an unusual "inflated" shape. A 2004 study led by Dr. Ted Robinson concluded that the Starchild Skull morphology is not the result of Hydrocephaly. Hydrocephaly indiscriminately expands the skull starting at the softest areas--the unfused sutures. The Starchild Skull's sutures were open and healthy at the time of death, meaning that if any internal pressure was present in the cranium it would have expanded first at the suture lines. But the expansion in the Starchild Skull, while symmetrical, is present only in the solid bone plates of the parietals. In fact, there is a pronounced dent at the sagittal suture--as impossible in a Hydrocephalic as it is to blow up a round balloon while leaving a dent down the middle. In addition, Hydrocephaly does not cause natural flattening of the occipital, shallowing and realignment of the eye sockets, compression of the bone, or any of the other abnormal features present in the Starchild Skull.


Source

Starchild Skull side view X-Ray


Hydrocephalic side view X-Ray








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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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I've enjoyed Loyd Pye's videos and think that mainstream education would do well to follow along.

But I doubt that would happen anytime soon. Especially love his passion on his pyramid videos. Especially talking about the obelisk in Egypt.

He surely is on to something big with the starchild when you hear what he has to say on the physical side of that skeleton and how it is different that the human skeleton by viewing the extreme differences. It is no wonder as to the dna differences between the human and the possible alien. But those tests cost big money and he needs support from the wealthy that want to stand for truth and innovation of the human existence. We can learn more about ourselves when we study these incredible concepts that could very well turn into realities and help change the world as we now know it.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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I don't see what the big deal is, it's just a dead Nephilim. The Bible talks about them existing before and after the flood, sorry to disappoint those that think it is from another planet.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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Given the abnormalities of the "Starchild" has anyone considered the differences in the FOXP2 gene are the result of naturally occurring genetic mutations in FOXP2?


In humans, mutations of FOXP2 cause a severe speech and language disorder.


en.wikipedia.org...

The child probably had more than one genetic defect.


There are a large number of genetic syndromes and metabolic disorders associated with megalencephaly; thus, a careful neurologic and physical exam is required in all children presenting with megalencephaly.


www.medlink.com...
www.peds.ufl.edu...



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Miccey
So can you guys enlighten me
to WHY this WOULDNT be
EARTH originated...

Even IF its NOT human, what
makes it NON terrestrial....


the mtdna is human and has all the characteristics of being human. the Ndna is proving to be further away from being human than a frog. To me that says the dna has been manipulated the same way we would do today for a woman who has mitochondrial disease. In other words it was done artificially and supposedly humans couldn't do this kind of thing 900 years ago so what does that leave us with? maybe a species that understood genetics a thousand years ago?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Obviously it's an alien monkey dog.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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how reliable is this website?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Its DNA is not Earthly, as all Earth creatures have very similar DNA, almost 98% the same in many cases. The Starchild skull is sooo far off this norm and that is why it is called starchild, it just couldnt be from this planet period.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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or maybe manbearpig

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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Sources advertising their own views are not sources for proving those views.


Please try again.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Sorry but after, spending time learning the software at the Blast website used, for cross linking DNA evidence. I have to call hoax on this FIND for a few reasons, however, if someone can debunk my findings feel free to do so. The first thing that made me question if this was a hoax or not; was that the "Query ID Numbers" at the OP's link are different. The website used in the picture defines query as: (query -The input sequence (or other type of search term) to which all of the entries in a database are to be compared.) If you put in the Query ID Numbers from those posted; you get options to exclude organisms in your results...IE you can exclude Human or anything else and adjust other parameters. Use the link: blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
Inputting the Query ID Number listed from the Source link lclj45729 You can see these options to change or leave out whatever organism you want for yourself.

I even tried using Both L's and upper case i's since they look the same. But, you don't even need to enter numbers to see that you can change the fields and results to tailor what you are looking for. Since the Source site for this post; does not contain full screens of the data for the search Query, so it can be duplicated or shown what they input in those fields to get their results, then I have to call hoax. Since others have stated that the source for this story has been known to hoax; then that leaves even more doubt about the validity of any DNA testing.

My apologies for those that have been waiting on some actual results from this skull, I didn't mean to ruin things...but there are some in search of truth and truth is the profit, whereas some that fabricate the truth so they can profit. People that create elaborate hoaxes are preying on people and it isn't right, P.T. Barnum may have said a sucker is born every minute; but he failed to mention people also get wiser by the minute as well.

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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Given the abnormalities of the "Starchild" has anyone considered the differences in the FOXP2 gene are the result of naturally occurring genetic mutations in FOXP2?
One could assume the mother of such a defective primate bathed in a pool of radioactive waste. The number of differences in the FOXP2 gene are so high that if they were defects the thing would never have been born in the first place, and it certainly would have come out looking much worse than that. It'd be like randomly jumbling the sequences and expecting it to come out alive. Just not going to happen.





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