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Originally posted by sykonot
I say we all buy orange jumpsuits and just run around DC all day. You know buying ice cream and stuff. I mean we are all terrorists now according to them. They insist on wasting time passing "laws" that really do nothing for anyone but them. To further separate the civilian from the officer. Divide and conquer. America has been going down this road for some time. We were never able to stop it, we allowed a two-party system and that is what we now have. The only issue is the two-party system is now one party and it serves it own purposes and then pretends to hate one another to divide the opinions of the people. Repubs and Dems have no control over this country people. We do.
SUMMARY AS OF:
11/17/2011--Reported to Senate amended. (There are 3 other summaries)
Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011 - Amends the federal criminal code to revise the prohibition against entering restricted federal buildings or grounds to impose criminal penalties on anyone who knowingly enters any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority. Defines "restricted buildings or grounds" as a posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area of: (1) the White House or its grounds or the Vice President's official residence or its grounds, (2) a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting, or (3) a building or grounds so restricted due to a special event of national significance.
They're essentially cornering the masses into a be ignored, or go to war domestically, kind of deal. At least that's how some of these dumb #s think, im sure of it.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
I was almost to flag and star this until I read the Bill.
SUMMARY AS OF:
11/17/2011--Reported to Senate amended. (There are 3 other summaries)
Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011 - Amends the federal criminal code to revise the prohibition against entering restricted federal buildings or grounds to impose criminal penalties on anyone who knowingly enters any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority. Defines "restricted buildings or grounds" as a posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area of: (1) the White House or its grounds or the Vice President's official residence or its grounds, (2) a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting, or (3) a building or grounds so restricted due to a special event of national significance.
The summary is accurate.
This is about people who trespass illegally. This has nothing to do with true protest. This will only affect people who are engaging in criminal activity pretending it's protest. The basis of this thread is not true.
Folks, read these things before you take peoples word for what's in them.
As to Secret Service Protection for candidates for President, SO? They need it. The world is full of dangerous nut jobs and while campaigning they are sitting ducks. Of course they need protection.
Glitter Bombing Some of us mature when we grow out of childhood, some don't.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Yep..not seeing the issue with this actually
Actually, I am somewhat shocked this wasn't already in law
Incidently, glitter bombing would not actually fall under this as it does not impede the politician from doing his business.
Standing in the street so a politician cannot go to an event, yes...chaining yourself to a door, yes..glitterbombing, no.
I don't think this is needed mind you..but I don't see this as the end of protesting..just the end of some potential asshats crossing the line and stopping people from doing their job through force.
I read this thread and became quite angry actually..went to go see this evil hidden language that is going to ban us from politicians...read it twice actually, making sure I wasn't missing something..
ATS...stop crying freaking wolf...one day something serious may come down the pipe and we will have been told such bull over and over by you lot that it will pass relatively unaware.
Your senators should hang up on you
Frankly, this should be a law for not just politicians, but everyone.
Originally posted by gandhi
Ok...Nows the time to get really pissed.
I never, ever, for all the tin in the world, thought this day would come. NEVER. I would have called every single one of you out.
I'm dumbfounded.
Originally posted by Damrod
Instead of jumping up and down like my head was on fire, I popped off emails to both of my Senators...and asked them to vote it down....but it appears it has already passed the Senate according the the House web page...I suppose we need to be emailing the POTUS and try to get him to veto it.
Originally posted by MyMindIsMyOwn
Thank you for providing those additional links, they have proved very useful for me in order to attempt a half way intelligent response....
However in reading both section 1752 of the code and HR 347 as it was passed I cannot help but think that this is meaningless. It's just another long draw of blood by an already bloated parasite on the citizenry of the US. The meat and potatoes of both are exactly the same, the 'spirit' of the law here appears unchanged in my opinion. So what was there to clarify? What was there to correct? Am I missing something here??