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Originally posted by CaptainNemo
NATO arms a bunch of Al Qeada radicals with high power rifles, RPGs, and SAMS.
Who is the real terrorist?
I can't even fathom the magnitude of the effect intervening in Syria would have, it's just saddening. Millions of innocent people are going to lose their lives. Russia and China are already warning the West not to attack, but i'll be damned if they listen. This really gives more fuel to the conspiratory aspect of the world and TPTB. This isn't a bunch of morons controlling the worlds largest armies. This is a systematic undermining of sovereignty...These are men that appear hellbent on the destruction of the world...These are peoples who delight in seeing a country ravaged by racist genocide. To top it all off the these same people control the media, so it's like it never happened. What type of Orwellian nightmare am I trapped in?
These types of things really narrow the light at the end of the tunnel
Hundreds of people have been killed since last week in clashes between rival tribes over control of territory in Libya. Libya's ruling National Transitional Council has not been able to pull the country together since a U.S. military and NATO led operation help to topple the dictator Muammar Gaddafi last October. Violence broke out late last week in the remote city of Al Kufra and has continued since. The challenge --policing the country's thinly populated desert.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by casenately
Funny, when I followed CounterPsyOps link to its alleged source, this is what it really said:
Hundreds of people have been killed since last week in clashes between rival tribes over control of territory in Libya. Libya's ruling National Transitional Council has not been able to pull the country together since a U.S. military and NATO led operation help to topple the dictator Muammar Gaddafi last October. Violence broke out late last week in the remote city of Al Kufra and has continued since. The challenge --policing the country's thinly populated desert.
www.federalnewsradio.com...
Doesn't anyone try to verify anything any more?
Originally posted by CaptainNemo
reply to post by alienorgy
Indeed.
Who wrote such a sad sad masterpiece?
How does it all end?
Around Kufra fighting continues: in the picture, a pickup of the Nato-mercenaries has been destroyed. (photo by AlgeriaIsp)
Clashes between the Zwai and the Toubu tribes, in the town of Kufra, broke out (this is the third day of fighting) and at least 18 people were killed over the first two days.
Shells of mortars, fired by the barbarians of the CNT on residential neighborhoods, have done much damage and death among the population in the last hours . The number of civilian casualties is increasing.
An Humanitarian Intervention by NATO is in progress?
Yes, with bombs and air strikes to bring peace…eternal.
Kufra’s green fighters from Toubu tribe, have killed an important Nato-mercenary, Ahmed Akermiche, by the fire from a sniper.
A member of the Toubu tribe told to a reporter, by telephone, that five of his comrades had been killed today, but another member of his clan said there were only injuries reported in the fighting.
He said his people is surrounded by members of the Zwai tribe.
Kufra is under siege from all sides. The Zwai tribe is shelling the village everywhere with heavy weapons.
Libya’s ruling National Transitional Council (NTC) is backing the Zwai tribe by sending weapons and fighters to their help, which was also confirmed by a source from the Zwai tribe.
The Nato-puppet government have sent reinforcements to Zwai. Its plan is to exterminate the Toubu tribe. A massacre is ongoing, in which Libyan NTC is participating.
A ‘Crime Against Humanity’ and a ‘Crime of War’ is taking place under the eyes of “humanitarian democracies”, which are the mask to wear, to let the usurocracy lobby keep the nations and the people in a perpetual global slavery.
A source from the Zwai tribe said that a plane, carrying weapons and fighters, landed at Kufra airport last night to help its members and NTC mercenaries against the loyalist tribes of Toubu in Kufra.
Last report from the Government (23/02/2012): there will be no peace for the beasts of NTC-NATO-Qaeda, colonialist invasion just know hell…
-Kufra: mercenary Libyan NATO, the so-called “rebel”, have been lost in the Chadian territory in the area of the Aozou Strip, and under the threat of weapons seized to men, women and children, leaving them to languish and die in the desert of the Sahara. Military forces from Chad have responded massively with the dispatch of special teams and helicopters, pursuing the rebels in Libya from makes more than 700 kilometres: around 100 rats were killed by the military forces of Chad and more than 300 were taken prisoners
(All supporters of Libya Green and Green Resistance: the so-called “rebel” are actually only cowards, killers and social parasites, the criminals of the worst kind, where all they do is kill, rape and robbery, having no desire to work and find easier and more profitable criminal acts described as “rebel” is a spread of false ideological by EE.)US-NATO-Zion propaganda, and has a great offense and discredit the true revolutionaries and noble:. (we call all the followers of Libya Green and green resistance never to use this name to define these “Libyans” How are only the Yankees of mercenaries and traitors paid by the Zion-NTC… when they receive the money…).
The Aouzou Kufra border area was fought between Libya and Chad in the early 1970s, with a real war between Libya and Chad, which ended with a statement of the International Court of Justice in 1994, with a majority in favor of the sovereignty of Chad over the Aouzou Strip.
So far, the relationship between Libya and Chad were fully standardized.
Now, rats have reopened the argument of Libya, trying to expel the inhabitants, mostly black, living in the area of the Aouzou Strip, near the Tibesti Mountains.
The population of this area, such as the inhabitants of Kufra, mostly black, are not Muslim and follow an African spirituality independent worship a Creator God in the spiritual tradition in parts of sub-Saharan Africa.
Now the NATO Council – Al – Al – Qaeda-mercenaries who want to impose its bloody false Islam on these populations. NATO-mercenaries have no respect for black people and believe that blacks should be conquered or exterminated.
Under the Government of Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi brother, these people were respected and could move freely of Kufra in Libya, Sudan, Niger, Chad, Mali, Algeria and the Sahara without a passport.
Resistance fighters Greens have entered the Kufra and Aouzou with 425 vehicles, the transportation of water, flour, meat, sugar, vegetables and medicines for the injured and in pain due to the persecution of gangs of criminals NTC and mercenaries from various nature NATO.
In recent days, in the border with Libya, the area also was heavily bombarded by foreign aircraft, because despite what it said media, NATO forces are still in Libya to support the rats.
Muammar, Libya, Allah wa Bas
-Army loyal to the Jamahiriya Libyan is reoriented and advances victorious for the cleaning of Libya, from observers and mercenaries of the NTC – NATO
The burial of the “rebel” beasts in the Kufra: A video of the motorcade of the rebels fighting the tribes of Toubou Kofra fighters
Also in Kufra, two NTC-NATO battalion commanders killed by combatants Toubou
Following clashes between the combatants of the tribes and the Toubou of NATO, in the town of Kufra, mercenaries two NTC “Salah Eddine” battalion commanders were neutralized. What are “Adel Mohamed Elsilini” and “Ahmed Abdelmouneîm Elsbihi” of Benghazi.
Kufra: The number 1 of the NTC, Mustafa Abdeljalil, said the television channel of the NTC, “Kanate Libya”, that the Kufra events were sponsored by Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi supporters from outside and from within. The tribes were requested by a high fire. The response of the tribes: as soon as all the rats are going to be returned to its sewers, tribes leave themselves to defend itself: not before.
OTAN ATACA AOZOU - KUFRAH
Viernes, 24 de Febrero de 2012 16:53
(TO ALL THE GREEN LIBYA & GREEN RESISTANCE SUPPORTERS: in reality these so-called “rebels” are just cowards, cutthroats and social parasites, criminals of the worst kind, where the only thing they do is kill, rape and steal, having no desire to work and finding it easier and profitable criminal acts . Calling them “rebels” is a false-ideologic spread by USA-Nato-Zion propaganda, and takes great offense and discredit the true and noble revolutionaries: we call on all supporters of Green Libya and Green Resistance to never use this name to define these ‘Libyans’ how are justYankee-mercenaries and traitors paid by the Zion-NTC…when they receive the money…).
Clashes between the Zwai and the Toubu tribes, in the town of Kufra, broke out (this is the third day of fighting) and at least 18 people were killed over the first two days.
Shells of mortars, fired by the barbarians of the CNT on residential neighborhoods, have done much damage and death among the population in the last hours . The number of civilian casualties is increasing.
An Humanitarian Intervention by NATO is in progress?
Yes, with bombs and air strikes to bring peace…eternal.
Kufra’s green fighters from Toubu tribe, have killed an important Nato-mercenary, Ahmed Akermiche, by the fire from a sniper.
A member of the Toubu tribe told to a reporter, by telephone, that five of his comrades had been killed today, but another member of his clan said there were only injuries reported in the fighting.
He said his people is surrounded by members of the Zwai tribe.
Kufra is under siege from all sides. The Zwai tribe is shelling the village everywhere with heavy weapons.
Libya’s ruling National Transitional Council (NTC) is backing the Zwai tribe by sending weapons and fighters to their help, which was also confirmed by a source from the Zwai tribe.
The Nato-puppet government have sent reinforcements to Zwai. Its plan is to exterminate the Toubu tribe. A massacre is ongoing, in which Libyan NTC is participating.
A ‘Crime Against Humanity’ and a ‘Crime of War’ is taking place under the eyes of “humanitarian democracies”, which are the mask to wear, to let the usurocracy lobby keep the nations and the people in a perpetual global slavery.
A source from the Zwai tribe said that a plane, carrying weapons and fighters, landed at Kufra airport last night to help its members and NTC mercenaries against the loyalist tribes of Toubu in Kufra
Kufra: NATO jets attacked some of the Gaddafi forces that were surrounding the city, no exact figures yet. Report via Almanara #libya #feb17
On 12 and 13 February, 17 people were killed and 22 wounded in tribal fighting between the Tobu and Zuwayya tribes in Kufra. Nine were from the Zuwayya and eight were from the Tobu. Initially, only small-arms fire was used in the clashes when they started, but on the second day the situation escalated with RPGs and anti-aircraft guns being used. According to the Zuwayya, the fighting started when a young man from their tribe was killed three days before by three Tobu members. A head of the local NTC militia reported that the Zuwayya man was a smuggler and was killed after he opened fire on a Tobu militia, which was charged with combating illegal trafficking, killing five of the militiamen.[5] The Tobu, on their part, stated that they were being attacked by the Zuwayya, who were supported by the NTC, with the intention of exterminating them. The Tobu claimed discrimination by the Zuwayya, due to them being dark-skinned, on an even higher level than during the Gaddafi-era.[6] Farhat Abdel Karim Bu Hareg, the coordinator of social affairs in the local Kufra governement said that they will have to declare independance of the region if the NTC does not act against attacks by mercenaries, referring to Tobu fighters.[1]
On 14 February, clashes continued around Kufra, with the NTC sending reinforcement to help the Zuwayya tribe. Tobu spokesman said that they were besieged and were being heavily shelled by the Zuwayya, and added that it was an attempt to exterminate the Tobu tribe with government participation. An NTC spokesman stated that it was a low-level fight between revolutionaries and weapons smugglers backed by foreign elements. A Tobu member claimed five of his comrades were killed in the new round of fighting, while another stated that there were no deaths, only injuries.[8] The fighting continued, and on 15 and 16 February, another 15 Zuwayya were killed and 45 wounded. The Tobu reported that since the started of the clashes 55 of their members had been killed and 117 wounded, with the wounded not being able to be evacuated via the airport due to it being controlled by the Zuwayya.[9]
On 18 February, more clashes in Kufra left another two people dead. At this point, it was reported that the military sent reinforcements to the region, in an attempt to stop the tribal fighting.[10]
On 21 February, a Red crescent worker reported that 50 civilians were killed in the past 24 hours in Kufra due to mortar and rockets being fired on residential area.[4] A spokeman of the Zuwayya tribe said that three people were killed and 25 injured.[11]
The leader of the Tobu tribe Issa Abdelmajid, stated that 113 Tobu were killed (including six children) and 241 wounded in 10 days of fighting. For their part, the Zuwayya said 23 of their tribesmen were killed and 53 wounded.[12][2]
On 22 February, four people were killed and 10 injured in renewed fighting.[13] NTC leader Abdul Jalil said that Gaddafi loyalists were seeding sedition in Kufra but did not elaborate.[14]
On 23 February, the Libyan National Army was dispatched to Kufra to enforce the peace. Army commandos have taken control of airport, city and whole region according to Zuwayya tribial sources inside the city and both tribes used the renewed peace for evacuation of wounded to Tripoli.[15]
On 24 February, fighting resumed in Kufra, injuring several people, according to both tribes which each claimed that the other were responsible for the renewed fighting. A security official from the Zuwayya tribe said that the army had not done anything.[7] ICRC medic confirmed that fighting de-escalated but situation remained tense. ICRC also evacuated 28 wounded patients from both tribes to Tripoli hospital.[16]
On 25 February, United Nations team started providing relief supplies. Georg Charpentier, an UN Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator in Libya and chief of UNSMIL mission, confirmed that a ceasefire between the tribes was holding with the Libyan army contingent in place to prevent further clashes.[17] NTC chairman Jalil urged both tribes to make peace. [18]
If the US/NATO supported NTC successfully defeats the pro Gadaffi forces which seems increasingly likely, the real struggle begins as the NTC is composed of some unsavory characters, former Gadaffi cohorts and Libyan exile businessmen that want, along with the NATO/US alliance. to privatize Libya's oil industry as well as US stooges like Mahmoud Shammam. Goldman Sachs stole one billion of the Libyan people's money, these are the characters the Libyan people are up against as we all are.
(Reuters) - Ousted Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's spokesman said on Thursday that NATO air strikes and shelling of Sirte by interim government forces on Wednesday and Thursday had killed 151 people.
Spokesman Moussa Ibrahim, in a satellite phone call to Reuters in Tunis, also said the city's main hospital had run out of medical supplies and power.
His claims could not immediately be verified as Sirte, Gaddafi's hometown, is largely cut off from communication and is besieged on three fronts by ruling National Transitional Council (NTC) forces.
A NATO official told Reuters that it had attacked Sirte over the last 48 hours, but that the most significant target was a Gaddafi command center.
"The compound was clearly a military target since (Gaddafi) forces were using it to coordinate and support operations against civilians," the official said.
At the time of that strike, NATO had no indication there were any civilians in the area and Ibrahim's claims of civilian deaths were "unsubstantiated," he said.
"Between yesterday and this morning, 151 civilians were killed inside their homes as the Grad rockets and other explosives fell upon their heads," Ibrahim said.
"The city hospital stopped functioning altogether last night. Patients died simply because nothing can be done to help them."
A familiar figure in Tripoli while Gaddafi was in power, Ibrahim spoke on Thursday from an undisclosed location.
He made similar claims last week when he said that NATO raids on Sirte had hit a residential building and a hotel, killing 354 people.
A spokesman at the time said NATO was aware of the allegations but that such claims were often unfounded.
"ROCKETS AND BOMBS"
Sirte is one of only two major towns still under the control of pro-Gaddafi forces after the NTC took over most of another stronghold, Sabha, on Wednesday.
Ibrahim called on the United Nations, the European Union, the Arab League, foreign media and rights groups to try to get into the center of Sirte.
"We hold them directly responsible to expose the crimes committed against a whole city with the vigor and energy they had when they believed they were helping the cities of Misrata and Zawiyah from Libyan armed forces," he said, referring to a devastating Gaddafi bombardment of those cities during the war.
NATO says its air strikes in Libya since March have not killed large numbers of civilians.
Ibrahim also attacked the raising of Libya's new flag at the United Nations on Tuesday.
"Look at Palestine -- more than 60 years legitimate struggle for a state and still nobody wants to hear the case of the Palestinian people to have a seat at the U.N.," Ibrahim said.
"Yet some armed gangs, supported by NATO, get their flag raised at the U.N. before they're in even in control of the whole country. The Libyan people didn't vote for that flag. It's all through violence and rockets and bombs."
(Additional reporting by David Brunnstrom in Brussels; Editing by Roger Atwood)
just some more lies from my part.
that is a cop out and you know it. What about the rest?
NATO's Secret War on Syria
by Stephen Lendman
In January, Michel Chossudovsky reported British media confirming UK/CIA/MI6 operatives in Syria training anti-Assad Western-backed insurgents. They're also supplying them with arms, ammunition, and equipment.
"These reports confirm unequivocally (they're illegally) interfer(ing) in the affairs of a sovereign state. This is not a popular uprising. The insurrection as well as the killings of civilians were sponsored by the Western powers from the outset."
More on this below. Events replicate the Libya model a year earlier.
In February 2011, US/UK/French special forces and intelligence operatives actively began helping anti-Gaddafi NATO-backed militants. An armed insurgency followed, including bombing weeks later.
A year later, BBC confirmed it, saying:
"....British special forces were deployed on the ground in order to help the UK'S allies - the Libyan 'revolutionaries' often called the National Transitional Council or NTC."
Knowledgeable sources said "they did a tremendous job" conquering Libya. "The existence of E Squadron is well known within the special forces community but has not hitherto been discussed publicly. It was formed five years ago to work closely with the intelligence service MI6, and is mainly involved in missions where maximum discretion is required, say Whitehall insiders."
"It is understood that just under 250 UK special forces soldiers have been in Libya since before the launch of air strikes to enforce the no-fly zone against Gaddafi's forces."
Another hundred or more were on standby. They were comprised of Special Forces Support Group (SFSG) paratroupers drawn from the SAS (Special Air Service) and SBS (Special Boat Service). They were resupplied from Cyprus. Moreover, 800 Royal Marines were "on five days notice" to deploy to the Mediterranean.
Last March, six squadron members were caught red-handed. Dropped in by helicopter, they were dressed in black, well-armed with weapons, explosives, maps and false passports. Britain claimed they arrived to protect diplomats and monitor events in Benghazi, not military operations.
An official Ministry of Defense statement said, "We neither confirm nor deny the story and we do not comment on the special forces."
The Libyan model's being replicated in Syria, so far short of bombing. Expect it if current tactics don't achieve regime change.
On February 9, Russia Today (RT.com) reported:
"British and Qatari troops are directing rebel ammunition deliveries and tactics in the bloody battle for Homs," according to the Mossad-connected DEBKAfile.
If initiated, regional allies will be involved, including Turkey, Gulf states, and perhaps Israel. Last August, Ria Novosti headlined, "NATO plans campaign in Syria, tightens noose around Iran - Rogozin," saying:
Russia's NATO envoy Dmitry Rogozin said NATO's planning to oust Assad and establish a beachhead for attacking Iran. Izvestia quoted him saying:
Planning for a military campaign "is well underway. It could be a logical conclusion of those military and propaganda operations, which have been carried out by certain Western countries against North Africa."