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Advice on Creating a Tulpa?

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posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Just google Goflowolfog for a fun servitor.

Also, look into grant Morrison.

Have a look at his Disinfocon lecture on chaos magick




posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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lol

i see you've chosen to take the op under your wing
and assume responsibility for him.

very well
we'll leave it all in your hands then.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
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lol

i see you've chosen to take the op under your wing
and assume responsibility for him.

very well
we'll leave it all in your hands then.


Given you pointed the op in the direction of a fictional story, maybe it's for the best then.
lol!



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by miniatus
reply to post by Praetorius
 
And of the mind that Tulpa's and Golems don't actually exist.. so I personally have no problem feeling silly by conducting a failed experiment.. wouldn't be the first time =)

I tend to swing the other way, and though this sort of thing appeals to my nature, I backed out of dabbling a long time ago. Chance coincidence or no, I broke a promise to the tarot when I was young and got some scary and more-than-slightly prophetic results so I have been quite stringent in adhering to my "no opening doors" policy.

Be well, friend.
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posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Well, maybe "killed" is too strong a word, but who knows what he would create? Probably something he won't be able to control and that could turn against him. As you said, better safe than sorry.
Anyway, in order to create something you have to believe in it without the smallest of doubts, and since the OP is going to try it just to prove it's BS, he won't be able to create anything at all.

Generally agreed.


Now, that's an interesting theory. This thought crosses my mind sometimes, but I never really think too much about it. Who knows?

Only the wise admit they truly know nothing.
Take care.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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You a dabbler?

What are your thoughts on Enochian magick? Back when I was into this sort of thing, I had started looking into it a bit. I'd imagine is a bit too formal and ritualized for your taste with your mention of Chaos magick, but I'd be interested in your thoughts.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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fiction? Lol
that's relative,
as you should well know

as a chaoist you should know very well that the mind is not singular but multiple
or about the lurking threat of the demon Choronzon
never mind creating vehicles for unsuppressed ids

but hey, instead of giving baby a book of matches
you've also given him a stick of dynamite to play with.

hope you've the sense to have hidden a protective sigil in your avy.
in case op's unchained id comes visiting

by using it as a window.

but hey not judging,
just telling you how things are now,

you have assumed responsibility for the op.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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You are an admitted skeptic, so you probably don't use meditation to strengthen your concentration; which is the key to creating anything through magic. Basically, your skepticism makes you impotent. Stick to being a skeptic...it's easier.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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It doesn't matter if you believe or not. Contrary to popular belief, beliefs have no power whatsoever. If anything the concept of belief is a lie perpetrated on the masses to render them powerless. What matters is attention. Everything requires your attention to exist. If you can funnel enough attention into your Tulpa, it will become real.

Belief is confused with archetypes or schemata. Base you tulpa on archetypes that are well defined to you personally, something you are intimately familiar with. A well defined archetype is like a robust code of a programming language. A poorly developed code will run into more situations it's not equipped to deal with than a robust code. A well defined archetype is key to controlling your Tulpa.

Charging your Tulpa with emotion will serve to make it stronger.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Every story that I have read about the creation of a tulpa ended poorly for the creator.

I would advise against tulpa making.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by miniatus
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And of the mind that Tulpa's and Golems don't actually exist.. so I personally have no problem feeling silly by conducting a failed experiment.. wouldn't be the first time =)


Don't be so arrogant. Tulpa's develop more and more on their own until they acquire a rather devious personality and turn your life into a nightmare.

I've read about them before. Monks in Tibit learn how to create them, usually taking months and months of focused concentration... but I'm sure that modern psychotronic machines could amplify the mental creation process.

Either way, it's extremely dangerous and stupid. This isn't something for normal people to meddle with. Unless you happen to be a shaman who is an expert in conjuring and dispelling spiritual power, don't do it.

And yes, I'm serious. There is some screwed up stuff out there, and this is one of them. This isn't like jerking around with a ouiji board by candlelight- this is full immersion into something beyond conventional psychological and physical process and will probably result in you going insane and worse (but of course, you won't think that you're insane but you'll be the only person experiencing what you've sown).



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 08:53 AM
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OK... I have read most of the sources provided and even though it seems dangerous I am very very interested in this.
Quoting source: creepypasta.wikia.com... - WOW

Seems like at some point he tapped into himself...but then lost his control.

I am actually freaked out how familiar this all sounds to me..



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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anyone ever seen 'fight club' with brad pitt??? this sounds very familiar with that storyline!



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Lucifer84
OK... I have read most of the sources provided and even though it seems dangerous I am very very interested in this.
Quoting source: creepypasta.wikia.com... - WOW

Seems like at some point he tapped into himself...but then lost his control.

I am actually freaked out how familiar this all sounds to me..


When you say that you're "actually freaked out" at the familiarity of this story...what do you mean?
Does it seem to resonate with some unlearned memory, or do you think you've experienced something similar?
Curious for my own reasons.
Thanks!



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by benjamin2012
anyone ever seen 'fight club' with brad pitt??? this sounds very familiar with that storyline!

Agreed.
I had never heard of "tulpa" prior to this thread - but after reading through the replies and some external sources, "Fight Club" was one of the first flashes across my mind.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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What you are saying reminds me of one of the stories in one of Carlos Castaneda's books where he (Carlos) and Don Juan both see something on the distant desert landscape...that appears to be alive. They can't make out what it is...and at about the time they think it is a living being, it stops moving, and becomes a branch (or something).
And Don Juan informs Carlos that he (Carlos) had come quite close to "manifesting" (don't recall the terminology) something (whether it be a man, being, or whatever - I don't recall) through some form of attention.
Is this the same as you are referring to...or are you coming from a different direction/angle?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by benjamin2012
anyone ever seen 'fight club' with brad pitt??? this sounds very familiar with that storyline!


No it doesn't. "Fight Club" was only about one guy with multiple personalities.

A Tulpa is a whole separate entity that a person creates through their mind. As one example showed, after time, the tulpa "evolved" from just a featureless monk that was only noticable to the creator, to a devious monk that was even casually observed by other people at random times.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Read about the Scole Experiment. There's a nice book "Witnessing the Impossible" There should be some tips in there on creating "something " from nothing. I wouldn't try it myself but whatever floats yer boat.

The True and Complete Story of THE SCOLE EXPERIMENT




Witnessing the Impossible traces every session of the 'Scole Experimental Group' over the years, from its foundation and the beginning of The Scole Experiment in 1993 to its very sudden and unexpected ending in November 1998. In all, it follows over 1,000 continuous hours of mediumship and objective Physical Phenomena. The book represents the only true and complete eyewitness account of this unique and pioneering experiment, which pushed the boundaries of psychic research further than ever before at that time, consequently changing the face of physical mediumship and its resulting phenomena for all time. An absolute Must for all serious students of Psychic Research, and of immense interest to the whole of mankind



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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I practice Enochian Magick, and this really isn't along the same lines. Enochian magick is intended to bring you into the Aethers, communicate with Angels, and essentially work your way up the Aethers to become closer to god, or enlightened. No, conjuring of physical beings to do your bidding.... Simply, another way to acquire knowledge. The same principles were used by Crowley to channel darker forces and move down the ladder of lights as outlined in the " Necronomicon " Which I've read but never practiced as portions of the plates are missing, and the book is slightly scrambled as well as translated from it's original tongue. Simply, put I'm not going to play with anything that's been diluted as much as the bible.

I personally have never conjured any physical thoughts, and I found Enochian magick to be more along the lines of transcendental meditation, Astral projection and Remote viewing than conjuration, I tend to avoid any conjuration or high ritual magick for the same reasons as you. I'm Marked, by something and it's a part of me as much as I am a part of it and though my intentions may be positive something dark always seeps in. In my younger days I opened a door at a previous residence that is still open, and I suffered severely for it. It's actually why I moved, my advice to the OP is do not attempt this. Careless Ignorance, leads to careless mistakes, and one must ground and protect yourself even if you are simply researching/reading Magick. I've come to practice the LBRP, and Kabbalistic cross even when I read a new book because of the things I've had happen Just reading something. Magick is very real, even if you are skeptical, and I agree you must believe in what you are doing to succeed in your intention. How ever, just because you don't believe in something does not mean you will not get results.... Please be wary, and I strongly suggest you practice some kind of protection when you set out on your experiment. At the very least, ask what ever higher power you believe in for protection, ask for angels, guardians or guides to watch over you, and at the VERY LEAST look up and perform the LBRP with absolute confidence and positivity in your heart. Please, when you're messing with something that can be soo powerful and harbor unknown consequences for you, your loved ones or anyone near by the utmost cautions must be taken.

I'm not going to say with great power comes great responsibility, because I don't want to give you the illusion this is a source of easy power, but just know that old story of that little fairy begging peter to believe. If you believe in something you give it power, and even though it starts off powerless all it takes is a glimpse to give it the power of the whole universe. In this case singularity is true, it all starts with 1. Please stay safe, and don't take any of our words lightly OP. I beg you, don't do it, and if you must Prepare, prepare, prepare. You're dealing with a technique many spend their whole lives preparing for.

edit on 2/28/2012 by Ilyich because: fixed a typo



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by WanDash
reply to post by The Cusp
 


What you are saying reminds me of one of the stories in one of Carlos Castaneda's books where he (Carlos) and Don Juan both see something on the distant desert landscape...that appears to be alive. They can't make out what it is...and at about the time they think it is a living being, it stops moving, and becomes a branch (or something).
And Don Juan informs Carlos that he (Carlos) had come quite close to "manifesting" (don't recall the terminology) something (whether it be a man, being, or whatever - I don't recall) through some form of attention.
Is this the same as you are referring to...or are you coming from a different direction/angle?


Hmmm... hard to say. I'm basing what I wrote on my knowledge of dream control, and how it applies equally well to the waking world. In my opinion, all magic is a form of dream control. But, it was Castaneda's books that got me started with dreaming and caused me to have my first lucid dream. I'm actually in the process of rereading all his books now, but I find it extremely difficult. Castaneda is such a dumb ass, it's tiresome reading about him being so stubborn. I do think there is lots of great knowledge in those books, it's just not you get Don Juan's wisdom filtered through Castaneda's idiocy.


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