Iran's Grand Ayatollahs - 'Earth Belongs to Muslims and the End is Near

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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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The ayatollahs sound remarkably similar to Rick Santorum.
Can we just ship them all off to the moon already? I hear there's an old base there. They will just have to make do on 20 thousand year old cans of tuna.




posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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I do not see it in that scenario. I think the world would be populated by more Muslims and yes finally by all Muslims.The thing is they are allowed 4 wives while you are allowed 1. So if each wife bears 5 children you will have 20 Muslims as compare to 5 for you. You do the maths. They cannot convert to other religions and Muslims are a brotherhood not a race. In this world today only the Chinese in mainland China as well as the "overseas" Chinese can say that they populate the world but they are just a race and they have not intention to dominate anything or change your way of life except to do business. On the other hand if Muslims get a foothold in your country slowly but surely in 3 decades they would want self autonomy Nukes are not a threat cos nobody is gonna use it but I think religion is more of a threat because it is borderless and just needs a influential religious head to start the ball rolling.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:05 AM
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When are we going to just start dealing only with the women of hese countries, let's just ignore the Muslim world repression of women and start reaching out to Muslim women on moving towards world peace .. I am not a Muslim or a women...



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:15 AM
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“The Quran is very clear that the inheritors of the Earth will be those of the righteous who represent the force of the truth against the force of the false,” Sobhani says


Well, I guess that removes the Iranian leaders from the equation. I don't think the thousands of Iranian people who were beaten, imprisoned, and tortured and killed in the streets not too long ago would consider their leaders "righteous" or 'truthful'. I also find it hilarious that the 'Ayatola" claims that they started, or were behind the "Arab Spring". The Iranian people themselves may have been - but the Iranian leaders are terrified of the "Arab Spring" - it scares the hell out of them - as was evidenced during the Iranian uprisings.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by slanteye
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I do not see it in that scenario. I think the world would be populated by more Muslims and yes finally by all Muslims.The thing is they are allowed 4 wives while you are allowed 1. So if each wife bears 5 children you will have 20 Muslims as compare to 5 for you. You do the maths. They cannot convert to other religions and Muslims are a brotherhood not a race. In this world today only the Chinese in mainland China as well as the "overseas" Chinese can say that they populate the world but they are just a race and they have not intention to dominate anything or change your way of life except to do business. On the other hand if Muslims get a foothold in your country slowly but surely in 3 decades they would want self autonomy Nukes are not a threat cos nobody is gonna use it but I think religion is more of a threat because it is borderless and just needs a influential religious head to start the ball rolling.
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Just because a muslim can have 5 wives doesn't mean they all do. Also, it states no where in the bible that Christians can only have a single wife. Those are states laws.

Can we please stop the ignorant warmongering? I'm really getting sick of the "I hate muslims America # YEA!" bullcrap.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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Watch this dude's videos. He tells it straight up with no Taqiyya.

People are too politically correct to understand what Islam is.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:32 AM
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Students at Tehran University 1971


Students at Tehran University 2004


What a difference 25 years of Islamic rule make.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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Religion is primitive. It is nothing more than a tool used to control people. The people that would do that to their own people are just as bad as all the people in this thread calling for a war to rid the world of Islam. You people are no better. We can put a man on the moon but we can't put down the bed time stories. How many more need to die in the name of "God" for you people to understand that it's #ing wrong?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:46 AM
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So much ignorance in a thread I wouldn't know where to start but here it goes:

The concept of 'savior' is not a main theme in Islamic teachings, there are some sayings of the Prophet that point to it but its not mentioned in the Quran, so a lot of Sunni Muslims take it with a grain of salt and don't bother themselves with it. Whereas Shiia Muslims place high emphasis on the concept because the majority of their teachings are based on the idea of Mahdi. They feel they are the protectors of the Mahdi line (genetically) and are there to prepare the world for his coming.

The Shiia do not represent the majority of Muslims on the planet because well, their teachings are kind of unbalanced and they believe in things that are very tightly knit with their personal agendas. For example they have a freerer understanding of taqiyya and feel they can use it whenever they please.

Whereas Sunni's only adhere to the teaching that one can only lie about being Muslim if one's life was in immediate threat because of it. It is simply permissible but not 'liked' or even 'advocated'. Such a thing would go against the concept of honesty in Islam. This among many, is the reason why Sunni's and Shiia do not get along.

The official story of the Mahdi is that his coming will trigger a wave of enlightenment that will make people believe in him. He is not reported to have forced anybody to believe in him. But ofcourse there are probably parts of the story I've never heard about since I'm Sunni and do not put much stock in the idea anyway.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
so what should we do about it? What do you suggest? Should we take these words seriously, because after all that's all it is just words, or just take it with a grain of salt, because it apparently sounds like more propaganda...

- Be aware that it is being said. Educate ourselves. Don't stick our heads in the sand on this.
- It can't be 'propaganda' if the people actually said it. They are PROUD of their words.


It is entirely possible for people to say something and believe and for it also to be propaganda.
There are plenty of people throughout history who have used their words which are fact as propaganda.

Ok so the Ayatollah has said he wants to usher in a world of islam , which is the view of himself and the other top boys in Iran , this doesnt represet the views of every muslim in the world .
Just the crazy religious zealots who control a country and its army under the power and threat of sharia law.

All im saying is hiphop is alive In Iran , and the underground scene is building , that way I know that the youths wont express the same rinse repeat opinions as their fathers , uncles , and grandfathers , or the Ayatollah's.
Look how islam has changed the lives of so many black americans , by showing them a way out of drugs and gang violence. They arent into sharia or anything crazy , they wouldnt want to start the genocide of millions just to see allah rule over all, because they know killing is wrong , just like evey other sane rational person on earth.

You may simply be showing us a post about what the ayatollah has said , however you are really only providing fuel for a fire that others wont want to put out.

Besides you havent really offered much in ways of your own views on how this should be dealt with?

I just think the more and more the world media covers religious nuts like this , the more you give them voice , the more weak people they can corrupt.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by TheAnswerTo1984
How many more need to die in the name of "God" for you people to understand that it's #ing wrong?


Its not about 'god'. It is about power.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:08 AM
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Fundamentalists are crazy. Islamic or otherwise... though Islamists seems to be more active of late.

Religion needs to be eradicated -- it serves only to warp the uneducated, impressionable and vulnerable mind. This, coupled with the propensity of people that fall into thus category for violence, it's a powder keg of a combination.

The negligible 'good' that comes from religious adherence is infinitesimal compared to the horrors that have been enacted in the name of these various belief systems.

If a person commits murder multiple times, on mutiple occasions, we do not continue to listen to their pleas and testimonies--we lock them up.

So, why should religion get a pass?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by Sablicious
Fundamentalists are crazy. Islamic or otherwise... though Islamists seems to be more active of late.

Religion needs to be eradicated -- it serves only to warp the uneducated, impressionable and vulnerable mind. This, coupled with the propensity of people that fall into thus category for violence, it's a powder keg of a combination.

The negligible 'good' that comes from religious adherence is infinitesimal compared to the horrors that have been enacted in the name of these various belief systems.

If a person commits murder multiple times, on mutiple occasions, we do not continue to listen to their pleas and testimonies--we lock them up.

So, why should religion get a pass?


The problem is you can't just ban religion. The people need to decide that it's no longer needed. It's like when you're a kid and like having a story read to you but then as you mature you understand that it was all fake and there's more important things to care about so you stop reading the bed time books. We as a species aren't at that point yet. Still primitive. Still children.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
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These Ayatollahs actually said those words.


Ok so what should we do about it? What do you suggest? Should we take these words seriously, because after all that's all it is just words, or just take it with a grain of salt, because it apparently sounds like more propaganda even though you said your just being the messenger concerning this matter.


Words can be a very dangerous thing..

These men have followers all over the world within the islamic community.

If these "leaders", incite their people to actually take action (and lets face it, the muslims who follow these clowns would blow themselves to bits if "told" to do so), the ones living in western countries will follow suit and go on the rampage.

They would be massacred for sure, but would kill 100'000's before they were hunted down and removed by the law and homeland guard.

The next war will be fought not just in the middle east, but in our homelands also. On the streets of our very own towms and suburbs, the islami extremists will follow their masters to the end withour regard for their own lives and a great many of them will be home grown 2nd & 3rd generation western citizens.

So ya, what these guys say should be taken seriousely because the people following them may live right next door to you..!!!

In my opinion, all the hype about FEMA camps around the place (going off topic a little here), could be that the western governments are aware of this potential problem. Anyone ever thaught that the Governments may actually be acting in our best interests and constructing these camps to acctually put the enemy in, should this scenario actually happen..!?!

Another thing... People keep compairing christians to muslims and saying christians are just as violent.

Well thats utter crap.!! I'm not a christian and I don't follow any religion at all and I'll also admit christians are't perfect angels..lol

But, I have never in my entire life seen a crowd of 100,000 christians on TV, waving AK47 in the air shooting and cheering and screming "death to all non-christians"...!! I have however seen 100's and I do mean 100's of similar scenes being acted out by muslims...

Go figure.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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That's the problem. You seen it on tv. It's called propaganda.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by forklift
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Let him believe in his fairy tales, one could say the same about extremist Christians and Zionists leaders believing in messiahs/anti-Christ/Satan/Babylon.

The good ol grand Ayatollah hasn't exactly hurt anyone, so don't see the problem here.

Now if you're trying to create propaganda that the West should bomb the living hell out of Iran because of what Ayatollah believes in than that's a different thing.

Any excuse to beat down a country that doesn't bow to the demands of Zionist bankers ehh?

Only if Gadaffi knew that him giving up his Nukes programe was signing his death certificate.







Don't worry in a few months or years this same type of posts will be said about the Chinese, and a few years later about some other group of people. It's a running gag type of thing. Every so many years the west picks a country or a group of people to vent their hypocritical biased selfhating anger towards.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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These Ayatollahs are the Iranian equivalent of America's Harold Camping.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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I really hope when the mayan clock clicks to the start of the new era that humanity has the sense NOT to believe in this mythology called religion, its been a curse for the last 2000 years, the cause of most wars and people claiming to be "chosen by god". They read an "end times" into their bedside reading and if natures not going to happen they will through war.
I think the Mayans were onto the fact humanity can only survive 5000 years before self destructing and we are right at that point now. This would explain many of the unexplained wonders Pyramids etc...and what have we who (stupidly imo) are the most intelligent being ever going to have left for other to discover in 3 or 4 thousand years time
....absolutely NOTHING, todays buildings will be dust in a few hundred years, if anything survives from our turn at living on earth it will be something created by the druids - todays society makes nothing substancial (hmmm come to think of it the Georgia guidestones might be the very thing).
Society is just like a computer game, play it for 5000 year "game", watch it fall apart through its own stupidity then hit the restart key.
Perhaps the Simulation theory is a lot closer to "reality" than we realise. (FFS dont think too seriously about this...its impossible to argue with!!)
www.simulation-argument.com...
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:17 AM
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he is not the ayatolla , he is a very naughty boy .



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:24 AM
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I have a solution to the problem of muslims desire to conquer the world: Neutron bomb. Israel can have Egypt, Arabian Peninsula, Syria, Lebanon, southern Turkey and South west Iraq. Greece can have the rest of Turkey while Sub Saharan Africans can move to North Africa to repopulate the region.

Iran, Eastern Iraq, Pakistan can go to India(as well as chunks of Indonesia), while Russia and China shares the recently depopulated ares of Central Asia(and China given a chunk of Indonesia as well).


End result= World Peace and never a risk of muslims conquering the world.





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