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Israel ruined Iran's nuke plans

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posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Earlier, it came to light that Israel might have already destroyed Iranian nuclear sites and that preparations for a military attack on Tehran are well under way. It's from millions of emails allegedly hacked from the US intelligence think-tank Stratfor, and revealed by WikiLeaks




This is sort of a confusing, basically the US Shadow CIA company STRATFOR stated Israel already destroyed Nuclear Sites?




posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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National security is in full effect, yes?
The gov't does take immediate actions when a threat to National security is out in the open, correct?
There practically is no force on the planet outside the reach of the US military.

Yet, a guy in a cave in Afghanistan and 19 inept extremists penetrated the world's best defense system.
Also, a guy in the public spotlight can publish whatever he wants that slanders & demonizes the US gov't & military and no one can seem to stop him.

Alrighty then.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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I doubt if it's true because it's coming from Wikifreaks. If it is then yall better hold on the ride is about to get bumpy.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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I take everything from Russia Today with a pinch of salt, but it is quite an interesting story and makes sense that all the war talk is a diversion to what's happening in Europe. We have been down this road before with Iran. I seem to remember us being on the verge of bombing them on more than 2 occasions in the last decade.

will keep an eye out on this one.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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What about the two explosions that happened in Iran last November?

I believe the first explosion was around November 12th, where apparently 36 members of the IRGC were killed in what was said to possibly be a weapons transfer gone wrong.

Then around November 28th, another explosion took place that got a lot of attention, but an explanation as to what really happened never followed.

I couldn't tell by the video how recent the information was coming from Wikileaks, but I personally thought that both of these explosions could have been Israel already at work and Iran not wanting to publicize it due to a lack of ability to respond.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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I take everything from Russia Today with a pinch of salt


Smart thinking. They do seem to tell more of the story than the established mainstream news sources, but sometimes they really drop a neutron bomb on their credibility....




posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Oh come on....(in my best Will Arnet voice)

If this were true, I'm sure Iran would keep it a secret because they wouldn't want to make Israel look like the bad guys for blowing up their peaceful nuclear energy seeking program.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Short of somehow contaminating fissile material with some other material to cause unwanted decay products, or misleading scientists to mishandle re-processing of reactor waste it is very hard to see how, yet during WW2 the US operated a private company known as The Pond in Hungary using bankers and members of the Philips company to pursue intrigues against Nazi Germany. One way it would work is if they infiltrated those imported experts whom Iran depends upon.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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I seem to remember us being on the verge of bombing them on more than 2 occasions in the last decade.


That's because every oh, 5 or 6 years, Israel makes another claim that Iran is gonna kill every Jew on earth.

"Israel ruined Iran's nuke plans"

Indeed, by killing various scientists and releasing a very dangerous virus, Israel has indeed ruined Iran's nuclear plans, those plans being to build peaceful nuclear reactors, and enrich uranium to 20% purity for MEDICAL ISOTOPE uses. Which, I might add, the IAEA just re-affirmed.

Don't worry, someone will wag the holocaust in no time and we'll all be antisemites.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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Yet, a guy in a cave in Afghanistan and 19 inept extremists penetrated the world's best defense system. Also, a guy in the public spotlight can publish whatever he wants that slanders & demonizes the US gov't & military and no one can seem to stop him.


I know right? They can track some random shooter to the Alex Jones comment section, but they can't stop a jackass blasting confidential material all over the internet?

They can take down sites, without a warrant that are streaming the superbowl, or selling counterfit hilfigger clothes, but they can't stop a site that's releasing classified information!

Come... the....heck....on



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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"Israel, Kurdish fighters destroyed Iran nuclear facility, email released by WikiLeaks claims"

www.haaretz.com...


The mega-leaks website, WikiLeaks, has partnered with the hackers cooperative Anonymous, to publish internal emails of the American strategic intelligence company Stratfor. In one of the hacked emails, Stratfor officials discuss information obtained from one of their sources who reports that Israeli commandos, in cooperation with Kurdish fighters, have destroyed Iranian nuclear installations.

WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, will hold a press conference today in London where he plans to reveal new details from the Stratfor emails, including details on the company's dealings with the American government and major corporations, and its network of paid sources.




In one of the emails from November 2011, Startfor officials discuss the explosion at an Iranian missile base near Tehran and quote a source who "was asked what he thought of reports that the Israelis were preparing a military offensive against Iran. Response: I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago."



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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I find it strange that certain countrys can assinate people and cause explosions. Yet no one seems to mind. How ever if it was Iranians murdering israelis. Then we would all be at war with the anti semites. The world would be up in arms if it was anyone else.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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I wonder if they are talking about the Stuxnet virus attack.

Maybe the virus did more damage then Iran would ever want to to talk about. I could see Iran wanting to keep quite about say there centrifuge equipment going out of control and coming apart and spreading highly radioactive uranium and making the tunnel they were in lethal to human life



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Yet, a guy in a cave in Afghanistan and 19 inept extremists penetrated the world's best defense system.


Depending on who you talk to, that was Israel's Mossad that did that. But Laden took credit for it, so he's the one that ended up taking the drink.

I don't know who really did it and i don't much care because it's not going to bring those thousands back to life.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
"Israel, Kurdish fighters destroyed Iran nuclear facility, email released by WikiLeaks claims"

www.haaretz.com...


The mega-leaks website, WikiLeaks, has partnered with the hackers cooperative Anonymous, to publish internal emails of the American strategic intelligence company Stratfor. In one of the hacked emails, Stratfor officials discuss information obtained from one of their sources who reports that Israeli commandos, in cooperation with Kurdish fighters, have destroyed Iranian nuclear installations.

WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, will hold a press conference today in London where he plans to reveal new details from the Stratfor emails, including details on the company's dealings with the American government and major corporations, and its network of paid sources.




In one of the emails from November 2011, Startfor officials discuss the explosion at an Iranian missile base near Tehran and quote a source who "was asked what he thought of reports that the Israelis were preparing a military offensive against Iran. Response: I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago."




Nowadays there's so many people running to and fro telling lies with deception and subterfuge flying all over the place, i can't help but wonder if someone is wagging the dog on this one. Not a one of our MSM news networks is uncensored.

I'm going to take the stance in this matter to believe none of what i hear and only half of what i see.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
What about the two explosions that happened in Iran last November?

I believe the first explosion was around November 12th, where apparently 36 members of the IRGC were killed in what was said to possibly be a weapons transfer gone wrong.

Then around November 28th, another explosion took place that got a lot of attention, but an explanation as to what really happened never followed.

I couldn't tell by the video how recent the information was coming from Wikileaks, but I personally thought that both of these explosions could have been Israel already at work and Iran not wanting to publicize it due to a lack of ability to respond.


This did cross my mind when i read about those explosions. Israel worships at the church of pre-emptive strike, i wouldn't put it passed them to take action and then enforce a media blackout to keep it on the downlow.

After the things i saw on Fox News when Yom Kippur and Rosh Hoshana were advertised on Fox and no one complained last fall, i figured they were owned by the zionist Israel regime. You so much as put anything on the news or TV about Jesus (excepting Saturday Night Live's program making fun of Jesus) it gets banned and removed.

Makes you wonder who the good guys really are in all this, or if there really are any "good guys" period. I firmly believe there are none. Everyone is lying.



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
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I take everything from Russia Today with a pinch of salt


Smart thinking. They do seem to tell more of the story than the established mainstream news sources, but sometimes they really drop a neutron bomb on their credibility....



LMAO.

I don't even know where to begin



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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Here is a link to the relevant emails.
http://__._/gifiles/docs/185945_re-alpha-s3-g3-israel-iran-barak-hails-munitions-blast-in.html



On 11/7/11 7:54 AM,
Benjamin Preisler wrote:
Code: IL701
Publication: for background
Attribution: none
Source Description - Confirmed Israeli Intelligence
Agent Source reliability: Still testing
Item credibility: untested
Source handler: Fred

Source was asked what he thought of reports that the Israelis were preparing a military offensive against Iran. Response: I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago. The current "let's bomb Iran" campaign was ordered by the EU leaders to divert the public attention from their at home financial problems. It plays also well for the US since Pakistan, Russia and N. Korea are mentioned in the report. The result of this campaign will be massive attacks on Gaza and strikes on Hezbollah in both Lebanon and Syria.

From: "Chris Farnham" To: "Alpha List" Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:22:52 PM Subject: Re: [alpha] S3/G3* ISRAEL/IRAN - Barak hails munitions blast in Iran I think the info that Fred sent in previously needs to be looked quite seriously here. The insight seems like quite a stretch however it has been put out there for some reason or another and is now playing in to what we are seeing.

Insight below:

Source below was asked to clarify his remarks that the nuclear infrastructure had been destroyed. Source response: Israeli commandos in collaboration with Kurd forces destroyed few underground facilities mainly used for the Iranian defense and nuclear research projects. Despite the reports in the media and against any public knowledge, the promoter of a massive Israeli attack on Syria is the axis India-Russia-Turkey-Saudi Arabia. The axis US-Germany-France-China is against such an attack from obvious reasons. Not many people know that Russia is one of Israel's largest military partners and India is Israel's largest client.

http://__._/gifiles/docs/185945_re-alpha-s3-g3-israel-iran-barak-hails-munitions-blast-in.html

Whatever one thinks of the hacked emails, they are quite an interesting read. Unfortunately the “sources” in those emails are usually not named, but hey, at least the story is funny. A global intelligence company is acting so dumb, that they don't even use minimal standards to secure their own data. At least the mails contain lots of cloak and dagger operations and unconventionell analysis.

Perhaps it is just me, but I find some of those “hacked” emails read like the fantasies from people who have read too many Tom Clancy novels. I am reluctant to swallow these stories hook, line and sinker. They smell to me like some kind of conspiracy popcorn. Easy to swallow, fast to digest and afterwards the stomach is still empty and your head is left confused.

So the "source" is allegedley an Israeli intelligence agent of uncertain reliability. A agent who claims that EU leaders use boogeyman Iran to divert public attention. I didn't know, that EU leaders have so much influence on US Neocons, Israeli-lobby organizations like AIPAC and on Israeli politicians. If this story is true, the "EU-leaders" must be able to completly control their actions. This might also mean, that for decades EU-leaders needed the diverson of public attention. After all the fearmongering against a nuclear armed Iran didn't start yesterday.
edit on 27-2-2012 by Drunkenshrew because: grammar



posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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And next up ....

The news flash that a coup d'état has taken place !!

Just like the last two or three in Iran.

The CIA/MI6/Mossad cartel is always hard at work.

It's always been about appeasing the populations.

In the meantime, the money flow continues unabated.





posted on Feb, 27 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined

Then around November 28th, another explosion took place that got a lot of attention, but an explanation as to what really happened never followed.


I believe that one was in a weapons factory where a supposed long range weapons facility was testing new missiles to carry a heavy payload.. A few generals were killed.



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