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Chapter 1: "My knowledge comes from practical handling of explosives," added Gronning. "And my belief is that 4800 lbs of ANFO wouldn't have scuffed the paint on the building!"
The FBI also changed the size of the bomb numerous times. They originally claimed that it weighed 1,200 pounds, upgraded that figure to 2,000 pounds, then to 4,000 pounds, and finally, they issued a press release stating that the bomb weighed 4800 pounds.
"It appears the government keeps up-grading the size of the vehicle and the 'fertilizer' bomb to coincide with the damage," said retired FBI SAC (Senior Agent-in-Charge) Ted Gunderson.
The government also originally claimed the bomb cost less than $1,000 to build. Then just before the start of McVeigh's trial, that figure was upgraded to $5,000. Their rationale was based on the "discovery," almost two years after the fact, that the suspects had constructed their magic bomb with racing fuel, not diesel fuel, which is far less expensive.
Footnote* from Chapter 1, page 13, of the printed version of OCBPT its English version :
Other people who were working in office buildings at the time reported that sparks flew out from their computers just before the blast. The manager of the Journal Record parking garage, two blocks from the Murrah Building, reported that the electronic computers in at least half a dozen cars had malfunctioned as a result of the blast.
Originally posted by Alfie1
Originally posted by LaBTop
reply to post by -PLB-
Right side : Error margin +/- 1 sec max. for visual of video/photo (by NIST)
Left side : Arrival of signals at LDEO : 17 sec.
Left side : Delay Error margin +/- 1-2 sec (by LDEO)
That's a maximum combined uncertainty of 2 seconds.
LaBTop, I have to continue to take issue with you over how you treat the above tolerances. If the seismic signals took 17 seconds +/- 2 seconds from the WTC to LDEO then surely that means the travel times could have been anything from 15 to 19 seconds; a range of 4 seconds. Similarly, your other error margin of +/- 1 second on the vide/photo means a possible range of 2 seconds. So if you add them together you get a maximum combined uncertainty of 6 seconds, not 2. This is vital when you are only arguing about a handful of seconds anyway.
Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by LaBTop
Well the Hoffman I found is the one that talks about 9/11, so, I do not see how I made an error of the person.
Also regarding Terry, why are you ignoring his first account, which is verified as it was said by him, and instead rely on a second version that was "told" years later, which is nearly unrecognizable to his first account, on the phone, which itself is also highly suspect? Also its by CIT. You call that credible?
Once again, you use uncorroborated and incorrect sources to fulfill your pet "theory" and ignore everything else that is counter to your own ideas. Only to you its old and stale as you try and try to ignore and bury his correct account, since it debunks your version. No surprise. Maybe you can explain how Terry has forgotten everything he has done in his initial account, only to be remember years later and totally different? He was very clear in his account of being out from between the two wings. This means he was no longer in between the wings. I can see that your grasp of the English language is lacking in verbal nuances. Also, you fail to explain where exactly did he run uphill, when the only "uphill" around the Pentagon is a slight rise, but he would have to run 100ft towards Wing 1 on the Annex to get a slight 6-7 ft height advantage. Hell I'll just re-link to what I stated earlier regarding that:
But that is Off Topic, so let us stay On Topic..