reply to post by GenRadek on page 10 its bottom part.
Read the NIST report, and you will find the description of the massively reinforced triple and DOUBLE maintenance floors in each of the Twin Towers.
And they had damn thick steel re-bar reinforced concrete floors too.
Not the type of thin concrete that were spread on the other floors their truss plates, those were only a few cm thick. With much thinner re-bars in
the concrete layer.
And just enter WTC in the picture search of Google and you will find myriads of photos from the core column construction of the Twin Towers. I can
imagine a gravitational collapse of damaged floors gliding around that core until the intact floors stop them.
But not that massive core falling into itself. ALL the way down through all those columns and floors, totally undamaged by a plane or raging fires.
Cold, strong huge and thick metal that had always uphold all the floors above them.
Like I said, the damaged floors I can imagine partially collapse on top of the intact ones, when no outside force were in play. What we saw however,
was a clear demo.
~~Maybe you can show me where the WTCs had steel reinforced concrete columns in their design.~~
The old trick to lay words in my keyboard I never typed in my life. The 47 massive steel core columns for each tower with their cross beams connecting
all these columns on every floor, are magnitudes stronger than the Windsor tower`s core. They were all fire retarding spray painted. Concrete
encapsulated would have even been better, but that would have made the design not possible.
~~did NOT have massive concrete technical floors like Windsor's.~~
Your mistake, not mine. It had, more of them, and they were double ones.
~~Also, The buckling and collapses began within 2 1/2 hours of fire ignition,`~~
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS TOOK MANY HOURS AT The Windsor.
That were a few exterior columns which started to buckle. The real collapse happened much later and was spread over hours, not 13 seconds like at the
~~Man oh man, LaBTop, you have serious gaps in your memory and research, not to mention critical thinking. WTC 1 and 2 were impacted, had severe
damage done AND it had uncontrolled fires that spread over multiple floors. It is no wonder they fell faster than an undamaged structure with a far
slower fire spread.~~
The WTC fires went mostly up. And died then down when the furniture was gone. The jet fuel was already long consumed or burned at impact. Smoke
shortly before both impacts was dark, meaning oxygen starved dying down fires. Fires at the impacted floors were already nearly out again. That
fireman should not have reported that only two pockets of fire could be managed with two water lines. It made the planners nervous, since a burned out
top is not so logical to bring down with explosives. Someone flipped the master switch prematurely.
The Windsor fires spread through the whole tower, they went through the original set on fire floor its gaps, and in the end reached nearly the ground
~~we jump from one item to the next and back, when cornered on one. ~~
Dear man, I feel not at the least cornered at all, especially since none of you have even slightly made me nervous while bringing some serious counter
research to the plate.
The only things all of yopu can offer, are insults from page one on, and not a sign of respect and good arguments. Most of them are outright lies. But
we are used to this kind of sloppy debating by you folks.
~~Cutter charges hidden in water containers. ~~
Well, you really never heard of that? The well known wall breaching units, never heard or saw them? They clearly used a big one to make that entry
hole in the C-ring of the Pentagon.
Search ATS with ``LaBTop wall breaching unit`` and thou shalt be enlightened.
One of the added effects is muffling of the explosion sound.
And a cutter charge is a thin rod of copper with a layer of HE in it. Ignited with a remotely triggered electrically charged thingy. Do you perhaps
think that a cutter charge will not ignite when I hang it in a water container? It will, and the more water is on one side, the more the explosive
power will go to the opposite side. Spouting a fountain of water direction the other side where most of the water was : hey, look, a SQUIB.
~~Now again, are you even remotely aware of how a thermobaric weapon works? Also are you aware that thermobaric weapons are practically USELESS when
used underwater, or surrounded by water? Do you know why? But far be it for me to poke holes in your fantas... I mean, theory. ~~
You overdone it. I didn't talk about ThB`s used inside water containers, I talked about conventional cutter charges in water, and it really does not
need to be that much water, it only needs to slow down the explosion on one side, so that all the power goes the other way, study the wall breaching