Originally posted by shorty
If i was old enough to vote my vote would go to the Respect coalition.

Like i said in a different thread,
RESPECT are a joke to me, George Galloway had links to Saddam (who was a enemy of the UK state) and Galloway has the cheek to call Blair traitor . If it was up to me (sorry for the harsh statement) but i would have Galloway hanged up in public

Originally posted by shorty
Blair has ties to Skull and Bones.

How?
Skull and Bones is a univeristy secret society in the states and sorry, but Blair never was educate in the states. Majority of the US presidents and other officals are skull and Bones members

I've already checked the site, i can't find their policys.

I did find a interesting section though

The New Left in Europe

Speakers include:

Fausto Bertinotti, General Secretary Rifondazione Comunista, Italy

George Galloway, Respect MP

Olivier Besancenot, Ligue Communiste Revolutionnaire presidential candidate and postal worker, France

Victoria Brittain, journalist, playwright and Respect candidate in the European elections

Suzanne Kim, Wahlalternative Arbeit und Soziale Gerechtigkeit (WASG), Germany

John Rees, Respect National Secretary

In that list there is one communist and one revolutionary communist ..... not the type of people you want to be accosiated with if you want to be a main party

How?
Skull and Bones is a univeristy secret society in the states and sorry, but Blair never was educate in the states. Majority of the US presidents and other officals are skull and Bones members

Blair's been following Bush for a while Bush as well as Kerry both were part of Skull and Bones. In which case if he is following Blair and face it he is so therefore he has ties to skull and bones and is also following there agendas just like Bush is or Kerry will. I hear he has been to bilderbergs meeting as well. New Labour, Torres, UKIP and Respect all corrupt i would probably go as far as to say that not a single party isn't corrupt in some way.

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Originally posted by UK Wizard
In that list there is one communist and one revolutionary communist ..... not the type of people you want to be accosiated with if you want to be a main party

thats a very good point,
in this age you dont want to be seen to be accosiated with commies

I missed the cold war by about 30 years i dont no ahole lot about it. I do know communsim fell and now very few people know what it is. So not many people care if Respect talk to a couple of commies

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Originally posted by shorty
I missed the cold war by about 30 years i dont no ahole lot about it. I do know communsim fell and now very few people know what it is. So not many people care if Respect talk to a couple of commies

I learnt about the Cold War in history at school, i wasn't around either

Communism is a greatly flawed political idealogy, it doesn't promote new ideas, productive workers or saving. (there are more things there just examples)

Originally posted by shorty
Controlled anarchy yes ill call it that, i am all for controlled anarchy.

You can't have controlled anarchy.... anarchy stands for self rule, nobody else can control you. The very idealogy behind anarchy is flawed.

The way you are speaking is that you want limited de-centralised Government, not anarchy.

Originally posted by UK Wizard

Originally posted by shorty
Controlled anarchy yes ill call it that, i am all for controlled anarchy.

You can't have controlled anarchy.... anarchy stands for self rule, nobody else can control you. The very idealogy behind anarchy is flawed.

The way you are speaking is that you want limited de-centralised Government, not anarchy.

Ok i will give you my idea of controlled anarchy. You would still have to abide by the law but for instance graffiti could be encouraged. You can express yourself providing that does not involve killing a whole load of people. What on Earth is limited de-centralised Government

[Edited on 5-10-2004 by shorty]

Originally posted by shorty
Ok i will give you my idea of controlled anarchy. You would still have to abide by the law but for instance graffiti could be encouraged. You can express yourself providing that does not involve killing a whole load of people. What on Earth is limited de-centralised Government

[Edited on 5-10-2004 by shorty]

Thats still not controlled anarchy because if you control anarchy its not anarchy (if that makes sense) Anarchy is about no law or control, so the very idea of controlled anarchy is flawed and cannot work.

Buy a really high flat.

Good point, i guess a de-centralized gov would be the next best thing.

Originally posted by UK Wizard
So i'd be welcome to spray paint over your house ??????

*spray paints UK Wizard house*

Touch of red should do the trick

Anarachy doesnt make sense to me because at the end of the day, we need some sort of government and control. Its like when you grow up and start doing what you like, no more parental controls but sometimes you wish for the control back in your life.

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by shorty
Ok i will give you my idea of controlled anarchy. You would still have to abide by the law but for instance graffiti could be encouraged. You can express yourself providing that does not involve killing a whole load of people. What on Earth is limited de-centralised Government

[Edited on 5-10-2004 by shorty]

Thats still not controlled anarchy because if you control anarchy its not anarchy (if that makes sense) Anarchy is about no law or control, so the very idea of controlled anarchy is flawed and cannot work.

I knew someone would bring that up but in my IMHO is about a freedom to express yourself what i would class as controlled anarchy is just that anarchy without brakeing a new set of laws.