P. Diddy proclaims "black power" on national TV. Was it racist?

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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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I do. Black chicks dig me. I have no idea why, maybe it's how I carry myself, it's not the bulge, I can assure you of that!
. People comment about it all the time when I go out. No lie. My last two Girlfriends were black. And for the record, I am not a racist but I do use the word 'n-word' freely. And that word applies to all races. And for me, someone has to earn that name. Like MLK, I care about the content of ones character, not skin color. And since G-d is the only one righteous enough to judge, I judge no one.

Regardless, threads like this do more harm than good. I will man up and say that I shouldn't have said things that I said in the way I said them. The point of all of this is, we are all different. The races that is. And until we can get rid of the PC BS that says we are all the same, we will not get out of this ugly trench. If we all come together and recognize those differences we all will be able to understand one another much better. Not knowing, or being uneducated about our differences does more harm then good. We hate out of fear of the unknown, it is human nature for most of us, while a few other are intrigued. We must all be intrigued, recognize and embrace these differences in order for us all to be more harmonious. The PC crew and their hypocritical views are dividing us... we are helping them accomplish their mission. SMH.

femalepharoe, I appologize to you for things I said in previous posts. I am sorry.
ETA: melanin is found in every part of the body, so yes, white people have melanin too. They don't have alot in their skin but like I just stated, melanin is everywhere.
Cheers.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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I see it like this Diddy is a modern urbanite elite along with many others who have risen out of the poverish situations. As an urbanite you develope the oppressor feelings of being controlled/POWERLESS or pushed behind due to observing your growth environment you grow up in being negative based more then positive. So he comes from a background that made him feel oppressed and has now risen to a level of POWER where he feels he can make a difference more then he may already have among many. With that some urbanites feel the need to keep the energy going related to recognition of the past attempts of possible parties that once existed as a way of showing respect and that YES they have overcome the struggles past parties struggled with. This 1 believes is where he makes his Black Power comment bases from. He is showing he FEELS as a negro he has overcame the struggle and places his hand high to signal to others his overcoming strength and to encourage others to continue striving.

Were it gets raci @ and 1 can understand is the lack of compassion for others who may be observing Diddy and how they may feel about his comment. It also has to be kept in mind that if a caucasian male was to say white power with his hand stretched out it would be taken as a racist remark by the negro community. So in some ways yes it can be taken as a race related slur or remark in other ways he is saying negros you can become powerful too (depending on how well you can maneuver thru the financial traps) and how much hard work you put in.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Which ever side your on this is one giant fence dividing black or white propaganda, we all need to get high and get some group loving on if you catch my drift
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Are we there yet...?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by femalepharoe
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because i can tell you honestly want to know, I will attempt to answer.
Keep in mind that there have been several name changes because black people were called whatever whites wanted to up until very recently. Thus we had no identity other than what was giving us.

this is pulled from wiki feel free to check it out:


"In this same period, a smaller number of people favored Afro-American, a common shortening (as is 'Anglo-American'). However, after the decline in popularity of the 'Afro' hairstyle in the late 1970s, the term fell out of use

In the 1980s the term African American was advanced on the model of, for example, German-American or Irish-American to give descendents of American slaves and other American blacks who lived through the slavery-era a heritage and a cultural base.

Thus linking a people to a continent as oppose to an abstract color.Others believe the term black is inaccurate because African Americans have a variety of skin tones.[citation needed] Surveys show that the majority of Black Americans have no preference for "African American" or "Black," although they have a slight preference for "Black" in personal settings and "African American" in more formal settings."


I see the term "black" as on the same level as irish-americans who just say they're irish, or italians who do the same. I think that we, as a people, have such a hard time defining what name to use because we have not defined ourselves; sure, we can look to external actions as the reason why, but, again, I focus on the internal as the real cause. How many time have all of us been told to just be yourself? the reason black america is in trouble, why we discriminate against our own based on education, skin tone and hair(!), why we shoot and kill each other so much, why we are our own greatest enemies is because we have not discovered who we are as a people in america. However that happened, the fact is that BLACK AMERICA HAS NO IDEA WHO IT IS, OR WHO IT WANTS TO BE.
I don't need a black history month. I can read our history anytime. I don't need a kwanzaa. I know who I am, I know what I want from life, and I know how to get it. Collectively, that's what we need. If you're rooted in knowing who and what you are, then no one can really call you out your name with any effect; No one can make you smoke or sell that narcotic; they can't stop you from studying and getting good grades, no matter how much they scream that getting good grades is "trying to be white". when you DON'T know, then you'll fall for all kinds of bull#. again, I don't know how to get black america to that point, but, IMHO, what I've outlined is the core problem.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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I starred that.

It's true, self identity is the core of the problem. We can pick up a history book any time and read about the significant contributions of blacks in America through out history. Like anyone else, we can place our own identity squarely in our hands ; regardless of what labels are placed and propagated from ignorance or malice.

Which is one of the reasons black power and pride is so important and should not be seen as a threat. Unless black people moving up the socio economic..is threating to you.

Getting good grades being considered "white" is a recent phenomenom. Many of our historically black innovators and leaders learned to excel under the greatest threats to life and family. Why did they excel? Not simply because they wanted to patent a peanut machine or a cotton press ; because being black meant something and the accomplishments meant something to a people in the face of oppresion.

Truly , black history month may not be needed for you ; but for me and a vast amount of any culture of child growing up in America it is pivotal. We teach what we know, its bias but true. Do you expect non black individuals - some from other countries - to sit their children down and educate them on WHO Frederick Douglas was and WHY he was important?

Let's be realistic.

Your well articulated post, reminded me of a city in tulsa Oklahoma - it was called 'black wall street":

"The area was home to several prominent black businessmen, many of them multimillionaires. Greenwood boasted a variety of thriving businesses that were very successful up until the Tulsa Race Riot. Not only did African Americans want to contribute to the success of their own shops, but also the racial segregation laws prevented them from shopping anywhere other than Greenwood


The buildings on Greenwood Avenue housed the offices of almost all of Tulsa’s black lawyers, realtors, doctors, and other professionals . In Tulsa at the time of the riot, there were fifteen well-known African American physicians, one of whom, Dr. A. C. Jackson, was considered the “most able Negro surgeon in America” by one of the Mayo brothers"

*This is 1910 , and it was a thriving city of black lawyer , doctors and world renown surgeons . The town was built because these people could not practice elsewhere and , indeed, served a needed role in black society

What happened to this town??

"One of the nation's worst acts of racial violence, the Tulsa Race Riot, occurred there on June 1, 1921, when 35 square blocks of homes and businesses were torched by mobs of angry whites.

Aerial fire bombing of black residential neighborhoods was reported."

*They torched the town to the ground and the US bombed it. The actual country and which we live ; an act of terrorism

*Why don't we know about this in general?

The events of the riot were omitted from local and state history; "The Tulsa race riot of 1921 was rarely mentioned in history books, classrooms or even in private.


Now lets fastforward to today. As Mr. Nemo detailed, a black man can't get a job in his city as a firemen even if he's qualified.

My point is; we can't have our cake and eat it too.

We can't say that there is no such thing as white privelege and that everyone is on an equal playing field , and then scoff at the reality that it isn't (detailed in black and white numbers).

We can't degrade black people who are seeking an identity for themselves, and then get mad when they do not wish to completely assimilate. NOT into a white culture ; but into a culture that would render you invisible.

Have you tried to buy any "flesh" colored band aids recently?

There is no identity withouth pride. Pride in who you are and what you come from.

Black power/pride is needeed now more than ever.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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Of course it's not racist. It's not a double standard at all. As a white male, I am quite sure that if I were to go on tv and shout "white power"...that no black man would have a problem with that,...right? Just like women who are older being called "Cougars" when they go out and molest younger, more impressionable, victims of their infinite vanity (such as a young male who is wayward or lost), when in actuality they are victimizers and deviant opportunists of the ignorant and innocent. Of course, if an older guy does this to a younger female.....he is called a "Creeper" by women who do the same thing and demonized as the aforementioned. Nah, these insecure, self impressed heathens are not sexist or racist, they pretty much are the standard....... of what the world once abhorred.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Feel I need to add this to remind people of why Sean Combs is who he is to this today... Listen..
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Ok, maybe this is better version:
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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With out a hint of racism i have white pride. If a man is proud hes, proud definition of skin colour is bad, like the things your ancestors, went through was obviously inherintly wrong, look at the nation of islam now who claim "black power" and are trying to persecute jews.

The time for joining the collective mainstream is now, has been for about ten years, black power and white power both in respect hate jews, not the meaning of saying it. Becuase i belive my point is i dont mean white power in the way, neo nazi skinheads do. I would like to be a man of class, no skinhead and tattoos here thank you, and in respect the same is of you when you say black power.

My point is and i hope some one will read this and star it, for agreeing because you have been inherintly one sided in your view. And in respect that does show your passion, but the movements behind the chants are wrong.


Unfortunatly pop culture makes these things appealing to kids, along with rappers claiming they commited crimes, anyone with commen sense knows if wayne commited any real offences he would be in prison. Not spend a two bit joke term inside for probably pr campaign.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by R3velutionR3quired
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Unfortunatly pop culture makes these things appealing to kids, along with rappers claiming they commited crimes, anyone with commen sense knows if wayne commited any real offences he would be in prison. Not spend a two bit joke term inside for probably pr campaign.



Don't be so sure about that. Check out the thread on here about the Wu-tang. Just because they aren't in prison doesn't mean that they haven't committed what they rhyme about.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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hire black people for jobs with the same level of expertise , if not more, and that will help with the assimilating into the mainstream - I'm sure.

play the game fair and everyone can get some playing time. Get it??



Also, asking for stars and flags is crass.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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The comment was racial, not racitst. Just like saying "My fellow white people, we need to wear sunscreen, we like our redneck music".



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Some levity, let's share a laugh?




posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:20 PM
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I'm still standing by what I said. It seems people still hold on to the guilt unknowingly. The sooner you realize that the sins of the past do not effect you, the sooner you can call P. Diddy out on being a racist SOB.

I'm not all about it though, but there is a point that you need to draw a line. The white people in America have been letting blacks get away with being racist for too long. I'm probably coming off as a racist myself, but the point behind what I'm saying is that the sooner white people get over their guilt, as I've said before, the sooner we can finally work past racism and labels.

I'm a strong believer that the whole African American, Mexican American, Italian American, etc. crap is just wrong. These things do not exist. Drop the racial crap. You're from America, you're American. You're from Africa, you're African. You're from Mexico, You're Mexican. If you really want racial identity, that's how it should be. But I say screw all that and we just focus on everyone being HUMAN.

I want the media to call out P. Diddy and talk about how he's being a racist. It's more than just the statement of "black power." Revolt TV? The revolution will be aired? What revolution? Oh, yeah, black power, when you see it, put a fist in the air. Sounds like he's reviving the Black Panthers. You know, their version of the KKK. Completely irrational racists.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:33 PM
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Racial Tension = $

Religious Tension = $

International Tension = $$

Global Panic = $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Personally, I think any any slogan or organization that identifies itself by race is by nature, racist. United negro college fund, black entertainment television, la raza etc. I am not saying this to be racist, but its kind of strange that African Americans decry racism, which is treating someone different because you perceive them as "the other", but then almost every occasion, you see black people identifying with organizations and groups that celebrate being "black". I think its a case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too. If youthink its not racist, how does, united white college fund, white entertainment television, and European Americans club sound?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:05 PM
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Even psychologists will tell you that holding on to resentment is unhealthy and breeds hate.

Just a reminder, this is 2012. Not 1812 or 1952 but, it is 2012.

My ancestors were raped, tortured and made slaves, yes slaves, by the Mongols. It is 2012 so I don't even think about it, all that horrendous stuff is now water under the bridge. If you don't know how bad Atilla the Hun and crew were, I suggest you do some research on that dude. I have never once bitched about it or demanded extra privileges for it. Thank you.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by openminded2011. If youthink its not racist, how does, united white college fund, white entertainment television, and European Americans club sound?


You guys have The White House... That tops all of the above...

And dont say "we half a half black president in it"



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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You do know WHY it is the white house don't you? Did history class stop teaching that one? If we paint it blue, would that make you feel better?





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