P. Diddy proclaims "black power" on national TV. Was it racist?

reply to post by ollncasino


who says that I am not "white"? hmm?

Your son is of mixed race? Good, I would hope that your views haven't polluted his mind as of yet. That's the problem in this country, the previous generation and their hatred has poisoned those that have come after them.

My posts get deleted because there is biased moderating on here, and certain people get upset when you tell it like it is about this fringe right wing forum that allows members to freely spout nonsense from the bowels of hatred.

Originally posted by illuminatislave
reply to post by R3velutionR3quired

 

who said that you shouldn't be proud of who you are?

But trying to twist a term that stands for black empowerment, not discrimination, into the same category as a term that stands for hatred and discrimination, is beyond ignorant, and I will call it as such.

You fail to see black supremacy in disguise sir?

en.wikipedia.org...

United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors

Main article: United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors

The United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors was founded by Dwight York who is considered to be "one of the most successful — and least known — black supremacist leaders in America". The Nuwaubians believe in black people's superiority to white people, that white people are "devils," devoid of both heart and soul, that the color of white people is the result of leprosy and genetic inferiority, and that the ancestors of white people are the sexual partners of dogs and jackals.[15]


Among the different species of Apeman you have the black-haired Lar. This is where you get the word ‘lord,’ or master from. The Lares, plural for Lar, were recognized for their intelligence. These Lares were the head monkeys or spiritual monkeys, well known. This is where the word ‘monks’ comes from. Certain beings used the species known as the Baboon (part hyena, jackal and monkey) together with Orangutans for breeding. This resulted in your Behaymaw (called the beast of the field) type of carnivorous man called Mankind, one of the many species of Caucasians.[16][17]

White people are said in one myth to have been originally created as a race of killers to serve black people as a slave army.


The Caucasian has not been chosen to lead the world. They lack true emotions in their creation. We never intended them to be peaceful. They were bred to be killers, with low reproduction levels and a short life span. What you call Negroid was to live 1,000 years each and the other humans 120 years. But the warrior seed of Caucasians only 60 years. They were only created to fight other invading races, to protect the God race Negroids. But they went insane, lost control when they were left unattended. They were never to taste blood. They did, and their true nature came out.… Because their reproduction levels were cut short, their sexual organs were made the smallest so that the female of their race will want to breed with Negroids to breed themselves out of existence after 6,000 years. It took 600 years to breed them, part man and part beast.[18]


you support this?

reply to post by R3velutionR3quired


What does this have to do with what I said? And also, where did black supremacy come from? It just didn't spawn out of thin air.


And I do not hate any "race" or ethnicity, I will never stoop to your level. But I will call out ignorance when I see it and you and your ilk in this thread have spouted plenty of it, good sir!!

Alliances with white supremacist groups

Due to some commonly held separatist ideologies, some black supremacist organizations have found limited common cause with white supremacist or extremist organizations.

In 1961 and 1962 George Lincoln Rockwell, the leader of the American Nazi Party, was invited to speak by Elijah Muhammad at a Nation of Islam rally.[35] In 1965, after breaking with the Nation of Islam and denouncing its separatist doctrine, Malcolm X told his followers that the Nation of Islam under Elijah Muhammad had made agreements with the American Nazi Party and the Ku Klux Klan that "were not in the interests of Negros."[36] In 1985 Louis Farrakhan invited white supremacist Tom Metzger, leader of the White Aryan Resistance (a neo-Nazi white power group), to attend a NOI gathering. The Washington Times reports Metzger's words of praise: "They speak out against the Jews and the oppressors in Washington. ... They are the black counterpart to us."


So in turn how is p diddy saying black power any different from eminem saying white power?

go and hide in a hole

reply to post by R3velutionR3quired


Straw man argument, typical behavior from a racist.

Where do you find evidence of me supporting ignorance like the moorish nation? I do not support hate groups sir, but I will not sit and watch people spout racist rhetoric without rocking their fragile little boat.

Look up the term "black empowerment" specifically in regards to the downtrodden black community, and you will find the meaning of terms like "black power",

White power and its meaning do not come close to that.

Originally posted by R3velutionR3quired
go and hide in a hole

Ah, you've lost your cool. Good. It must be hard to look when someone is holding a mirror up to your face.

Release the bonds of hatred that keep your fragile mind trapped good sir, and one day you may see the sun.

Originally posted by illuminatislave
Your son is of mixed race? Good, I would hope that your views haven't polluted his mind as of yet. That's the problem in this country, the previous generation and their hatred has poisoned those that have come after them.

Have you thought of seeking professional help?

Originally posted by illuminatislave
My posts get deleted because there is biased moderating on here, and certain people get upset when you tell it like it is about this fringe right wing forum that allows members to freely spout nonsense from the bowels of hatred.

No, it would be a fair guess that you get your posts deleted because you are obnoxious and see racists everywhere.

Get help before you start shooting white people from a tower.

reply to post by ollncasino


Why would I shoot white people? I'm not you, I don't hate people because of their skin color. Would I shoot my own mother? No, I would not.

If you call me kicking you in your teeth for being a spewer of hate and ignorance as obnoxious, good.

Originally posted by illuminatislave
reply to post by R3velutionR3quired

 

Straw man argument, typical behavior from a racist.

Where do you find evidence of me supporting ignorance like the moorish nation? I do not support hate groups sir, but I will not sit and watch people spout racist rhetoric without rocking their fragile little boat.

Look up the term "black empowerment" specifically in regards to the downtrodden black community, and you will find the meaning of terms like "black power",

White power and its meaning do not come close to that.

edit on 27-2-2012 by illuminatislave because: (no reason given)

I have not made one actual racist comment, my family is actually half muslim, i have mixed blood myself i have a bit of french and scottish in me. I am not racist in anyway all you have proved is that seeking difference in a term requires difference in a people which is wrong and is reason for supremacy groups. My point is you stand for everything i hate which is difference i belive everyone should have the same rights, but we shouldnt differ ouselves we should encompass one world religion on ehtic and one goal otherwise we end up with this.


Black power is a term that encompass extremist groups, but not all people who are proud of thier own race.
It is acceptable for a man or woman of colour to say the term "black power".

White power is a term that encompass extremist groups, but not all people who are proud of thier own race.
It is however unacceptable for any man with white skin to say the term "white power".

reply to post by R3velutionR3quired


"In “Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?” And Other Conversations About Race, Dr. Tatum provides us with a new way of thinking and talking about race through the lens of racial identity. She explains that all of us have a racial identity and must strive to affirm it.

For people of color, the development of a constructive racial identity requires being able to recognize and reject the bombardment of negative stereotypes and to embrace a history of resistance and empowerment rather than passive victimization.

For Whites, the challenge is to engage in a process of racial identity development which leads to an awareness of White privilege and a determination to actively work against injustice—and this requires the strength to reject a system that awards them, and to reclaim the legacy of White allies.

Part 1
Defining Racism
Racism cannot be defined by prejudice alone. Prejudice is a preconceived judgement or opinion, usually based on limited information and is one of the inescapable consequences of living in a racist society. ...

Racism is a system of advantage based on race. It is a system involving cultural messages and institutional policies and practices as well as the beliefs and actions of individuals. Others define racism as “prejudice plus power”. When racial prejudice is combined with social power- access to social, cultural, and economic resources and decision-making – leads to the institutionalization of racist policies and practices.

Dr. Tatum prefers the definition of “racism is a system of advantage based on race. This creates uncomfortable feelings for those who have internalized the myth that racism is a particular form of prejudice. With this new definition we as a society have to come to terms with the idea of “white privilege” and power.

Dr. Tatum explains that for most whites, the idea of white privilege has never entered their mind. They have never considered the benefits of being white.

In my view, reserving the term racist only for behaviors committed by Whites in the context of a White-dominated society is a way of acknowledging the ever present power differential afforded Whites by the culture and institutions that make up the system of advantage and continue to reinforce notions of White superiority.”

Her point her is that people of color can be prejudice but by the definition from above cannot be racist. She makes an analogy of the word sexist, reserving it only for men. Although women can and do have gender-based biases.

Originally posted by femalepharoe

For people of color, the development of a constructive racial identity requires being able to recognize and reject the bombardment of negative stereotypes and to embrace a history of resistance and empowerment rather than passive victimization.

I think an apology for the use of racist language is called for. You are no longer allowed to call black people coloured. Apparently.

ITV forced to apologise after reporter at PM's football racism summit calls black players 'coloured'

Daily Mail

ITV report calls black players 'coloured'

www.mirrorfootball.co.uk... 0.html

Ex-Scotland footballer Alan Hansen apologises for 'coloured players' comment

news.stv.tv...

I know it is hard to keep up with what words are PC acceptable this week and which are not, but calling black people 'coloured' is no longer allowed, apparently.

I know that you have only been racially offensive inadvertently, but please, try to be more sensitive to the plight of black people who have to face the stigma and open racism of being called coloured.

reply to post by ollncasino


first off..I'm black, and I studied Dr. Tatums research extensively in the Historically Black College I graduated from.

second. it states "people of color"
not

coulored.

the term "people of color" is used quite extensively in academic writing regarding race relations.

put your claws back in,

I will allow it because you...meant well. but i would advise you read more to be better acquainted with the terminology.

reply to post by ollncasino


Yet a coloured british mp on 60k a year made a racist comment about whites lol, and shes okay if she were white we all know she would have been sacked.

This all started for me because my freind was robbed and attacked by a coloured man, who as he was running yelled "honkey" my friend shouted "insert n word here lol" and a police literally walked up. put him in the cells, he has a criminal record for racial abuse and they never caught the thief.

I even went to the station to pleade for him, guess what lol usless.

reply to post by R3velutionR3quired


ollncasino..i think you may have been waiting for this guy.

reply to post by femalepharoe


"White privilege" is a cop out. It is an excuse that does nothing but arise anger and resentment toward whites from other groups. It is a form of reverse racism. I am white and I, or any member of my family, have never been awarded anything for being white. We all got what we have through hard work, sweat and tears.

If white privilege is correct than why was I denied assistance while only bringing in $200 dollars a month on unemployment? I have two children to support and I have bills. I qualified for $17 A month for food stamps. I know other whites in the same predicament. And minorities with no children and more income than I have qualify for much more. They even qualify for medical, the main reason I sought out assistance and I was denied. And you say that there is "white privilege"? If anything, the white male has it harder than anyone now a days. Maybe it's because whites know that if they can't afford to raise a child they are less apt to have a child, not make more and expect govmnt handouts. Hell, minorities are given bonus points on certain tests and exams to make up for a lack of their race or ethnicity in the job field/schooling. Maybe if said peoples were to go to a job interview wearing their clothes properly and speak grammatically correct there wouldn't be such a hard time for them to find jobs. Instead, it is blamed on white privilege.

You should be ashamed of yourself and so should everyone else that believes in "white privilege". IF it exists, I've never seen it in my almost 32 years of existence and believe me, I've been around the block more than a few times.

White privilege is BS. It is a means to make other races hate whites even more.

ETA: all the whites i know earned what they got and where they are. I know of many people of different races that graduated school, got into college or landed a good job in a high position all because of the color of their skin, not by the content of their character. The couloureds that fall into that category far outweigh the whites and if you think about that it should be jaw dropping considering whites supposedly make up the majority in the U.S.

I am appalled at this "white privileged" talk. Almost nothing makes my blood boil more.

Originally posted by femalepharoe
reply to post by R3velutionR3quired

 

ollncasino..i think you may have been waiting for this guy.

This guy, are stereotyping me

reply to post by kimish


Listen whatever you do dont tell anyone about, the jewels and diamonds handed to us throughout the generations oh and the millions of pounds we get at 18 just for being white. Then theres the magical castles powered by white skinflakes which carry us on some magical adventure to nowhere.


I have a right to be proud, my family fought vikings, romans and francs, for centuries then we helped overthrow nazism, and i cannout be proud that im a celtic man.

reply to post by kimish


i stopped reading at your first paragraph . I'm sorry

no one has the right not to "be angry". that's privealage talking. ala:
"You are making me feel bad, and think about things I don't want to!! SHUT UP!"

and if you think in your 32 years of being white (a white male?) you have not benefitted (in america?) than your block is squarely located in the zip code of fantasyville.