The ATS Conspiracy: Are controversial threads allowed to remain to drive traffic?, page 1


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Topic started on 26-2-2012 @ 06:13 AM by bknapple32
Subject is pretty self explanatory. It seems to me and a few others (quietly) that ATS, whether it be the mods, upper level staff, or both have been allowing the kind of threads that seem to be based on hunches, theories without much fact, or sometimes outright lies to go on and on. Why would this be? Why, if something is darn near proven to be HIGHLY HIGHLY speculative, does it not go to skunk works or "Highly speculative" sections. Im not calling for outright deletion of these threads. Obviously there will be those of you who disagree that a thread is speculative. But there is also some of you who will believe anything posted on here these days. ( and to be fair some of us who cry hoax at every turn) But why don't they go where ATS classifies where they should belong. If something doesn't have proof, its speculative. Simple.

Its not a secret that when threads get moved to places like skunk works, they usually die off in a matter of a couple days. But when they remain in the bigger more frequented forums on ATS, they can go for pages amongst pages.. Such as this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...

For instance, this thread www.abovetopsecret.com... has been proven to be a hoax. Now Im not going to get into a debate over Obama's birth. But the thread facts have been proven false. Not the concept,( I get some of you will never believe Obama was born in the US) but the specific facts in that thread are a hoax. Yet it remains.

The possible answer? To drive up internet traffic, and thus sell ad revenue perhaps? Controversial topics give us all something to remember to argue about. And where else to fight than on the ATS website. Thus we log on here, driving up internet traffic and in turn ATS can sell ad space at a higher dollar to sellers. And I (business wise) see nothing wrong with that. ATS is a business and they gotta make their bottom line. NO problem whatsoever with that. Heck, I work at corporate for one of the biggest advertisers on this site. I just personally find it a little peculiar that a site that asks us to deny ignorance might be playing us for ignorant fools .

I only bring this up to perhaps start a discussion about this and see if others feel this conspiracy may be true. I know I'll get flamed by die hard ATS supporters. Im an ATS supporter as well, I tell all my friends to sign up here. But that doesn't mean we have to be blind and not ask questions... I just hope this doesn't get moved into a lesser used forum on here to stuff this question away from the majority of the site's users. And Mods feel free to join in. I don't need you guys to defend your actions about specific threads you move. Rather I'd love your opinions as if you weren't mods.. if that makes sense..
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reply posted on 26-2-2012 @ 06:26 AM by bknapple32
reply to post by blupblup



Well Im hoping they see this as more of a conspiracy about ats itself than a rant. Im not complaining per say. I just think theyre up to something more besides denying ignorance. And im not making any suggestions because I dont care if they change their policies or not. I hope they arent hypocritical and take this down because it questions the status quo and authority


reply posted on 26-2-2012 @ 06:28 AM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by StrangeWayz



That's the point: debunked, but "controversial" threads stay unmodded and "active" for long periods of time.

Other threads, and many seemingly innocent comments, get "modded" within minutes.

Put it like this, ignorant but hot topics are allowed to stay out of the Hoax forum, and the only reason seems to be that they are "popular".

Deny (unpopular) ignorance.


reply posted on 26-2-2012 @ 06:39 AM by StrangeWayz
reply to post by bknapple32



Yeah I see your point, but what bothers me more is when decent threads with really interesting theories don't get half the attention they deserve, If I see a hoax thread and its been debunked I wont even comment on it because I'm a bit of a lurker and if its already been said there is no point repeating it. I just find another thread...
I guess this wont be featured on ATS recap, but the Obama thread probably will though!


reply posted on 26-2-2012 @ 07:15 AM by bknapple32
Originally posted by StrangeWayz
reply to
post by bknapple32



Yeah I see your point, but what bothers me more is when decent threads with really interesting theories don't get half the attention they deserve, If I see a hoax thread and its been debunked I wont even comment on it because I'm a bit of a lurker and if its already been said there is no point repeating it. I just find another thread...
I guess this wont be featured on ATS recap, but the Obama thread probably will though!


Im just wondering if this gets thrown into a useless forum on here with no traffic to stuff this thread away as well. Simply for challenging the status quo and implying a conspiracy on the creators of a conspiracy theory website.



reply posted on 26-2-2012 @ 07:25 AM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Monkeygod333



The idea is to deny ignorance. Not embrace popular ignorance. For web stats.


reply posted on 26-2-2012 @ 08:03 AM by mainidh
Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to
post by blupblup



Well Im hoping they see this as more of a conspiracy about ats itself than a rant. Im not complaining per say. I just think theyre up to something more besides denying ignorance. And im not making any suggestions because I dont care if they change their policies or not. I hope they arent hypocritical and take this down because it questions the status quo and authority


Any well established house needs walls. Or you end up with a tent, and in a tent, any wind can blow it away.

So you need rules, you need guides, you need monsters who can delete the termites and move the snakes, and you need a structure.

May as well just pop off to GLP if restriction is a worry, none there.. Oh unless you tickle wotsisname with a hammer.

BANNAMMERED!! Your IP is bad.. Stop stalking me.. god he's funny that way.. lol


reply posted on 26-2-2012 @ 08:08 AM by mainidh
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to
post by Monkeygod333



The idea is to deny ignorance. Not embrace popular ignorance. For web stats.


God forbid someone pays for all of this.

Including your obvious distrust for them paying for it.. ATS should be free, like beer. Now 50 years ago, it was.. it was called a Special Interest Group, and you could meet in a park.

I guess we could do that now... anyone making guy fawkes masks? How much ar.. Oh no, there we go again... Oops!
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