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Muslims: I'm becoming very tired of your violence

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posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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I'm tired of the humans that are bullying and hurting everyone else.

Why in the heck can't we all learn to just get along and play nice instead of trying to shove our religious beliefs down each others throats?

Why are we still allowing the few to incite fear into the masses via false flag operations in order to lay claim and pillage other country's resouces?

Why are we allowing the few power and money hungry, greedy to manipulate and rule the rest of us?

World peace - a world where nobody goes to bed hungry, cold, thirsty or without a bed, pillow, blanket and a safe room to sleep in?

No, it's not impossible - We have made it impossible by allowing the few to manipulate the many.

This could be a heaven on earth if we but would respect each other, our planet and the other inhabitants that share this third rock from a medium class yellow star at the edge of a small galaxy, one of many.






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posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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First of all, how do you know any of the reports are true, given that since the 1930s our Press has been full of lies? George Orwell, himself a fighter in the Spanish Civil War, stated that the British newspapers were inventing entire battles that had never occurred and completely ignoring some that had. By now the Press are professionals of deception.

Secondly, if it's true, why do you think the Muslims are being violent? Provoked much???



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by rottensociety
Secondly, if it's true, why do you think the Muslims are being violent? Provoked much???


Islam has been violent through out its full 1,300 year history.

Here is an interesting map of Islamic military expansion



Historically, Islam has never been short of volunteers for jihad.

Nowadays, jihad tends to be associated with suicide bombers, but historically and in the Koran it just means a war against the non-Muslim world to impose Islam.


edit on 29-2-2012 by ollncasino because: clarify



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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If you blew yourself up in the netherlands because i burned the bible then I would report your religion.

Muslims are rioting because their "holy" book was burned...Thus, islam is part of the story....

Seriously, can you not see this correlation?

-Chris



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by Christosterone
reply to post by kn0wh0w
 


If you blew yourself up in the netherlands because i burned the bible then I would report your religion.

Muslims are rioting because their "holy" book was burned...Thus, islam is part of the story....

Seriously, can you not see this correlation?

-Chris


I burn holy books as a hobby.

I think it stems from being kicked out of the Catholic church.

Nobody told me that heckling the sermon was frowned upon.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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reply to post by BellaSabre
 


They have their own countries, unfortunately TPTB plopped Israel down right in the middle of all of them, giving them a common enemy.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Well yes, there's that
............

There is also the well-advised idea of accepting what one cannot change.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Stop that.

You know how I hate having to agree with you!



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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7/7 widow 'collaborated with terrorists'

The widow of one of the July 7 bombers is being investigated for allegedly supplying money, weapons and fighters to an al-Qaeda terrorist cell in East Africa.


Kenyan authorities want to question a woman believed to be Samantha Lewthwaite, 28, who married Jermaine Lindsay, the suicide bomber who blew up an underground train at King’s Cross in 2005.

She is thought to be a key player in a terrorist cell involving two other Britons that was planning attacks on upmarket hotels and restaurants in Nairobi which were popular with tourists.

The Telegraph


Apparently, Miss Lewthwaite is the daughter of a British soldier.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by rottensociety
Secondly, if it's true, why do you think the Muslims are being violent? Provoked much???


Islam has been violent through out its full 1,300 year history.

Here is an interesting map of Islamic military expansion



Historically, Islam has never been short of volunteers for jihad.

Nowadays, jihad tends to be associated with suicide bombers, but historically and in the Koran it just means a war against the non-Muslim world to impose Islam.


edit on 29-2-2012 by ollncasino because: clarify


Yes. As opposed to those peace-loving Christians, right?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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Most Islamic violence of recent times has been very small wars between Muslim nations (with the exception of the sanguinary Iran/Iraq war) or acts of terror with very few victims. In terms of separate incidents, most of these have been of the "mobs running in the streets" variety.

Sharia law accounts for some very procrustean punishments but then Texas law is undoubtedly as vicious, at least as far as outright executions are concerned.

Muslims mainly suffer from bad PR. Their biggest problem, as far as I can see, is that they are "the other guy".

Would I like to live in a Muslim society? If I were a very rich male, into "enjoyment", it might be a nice life, but I don't think it would do me much good in the spiritual sense.

I haven't read the Koran beyond the first fifty or so pages, so I am no expert on its contents, but within the first fifty pages or so, there are indications, from a textual criticism point of view (I am an English major, by degree.) that Islam arose as a reaction or an answer to pressure on Arab society emanating from the Jewish community at the time the Koran was written. Islam appears to have been an attempt to forge communal solidarity as a response to an outside threat, ie., that posed by the Jews and their monotheistic religion.

The Arabs at the time had a polytheistic religion and were undoubtedly spirit propitiators of the sort one would find in any polytheistic religion anywhere in the world. For some reason, Mohammed seems to have bought the Jewish line on polytheism and to have determined that the Arabs needed their own monotheistic religion to counter the Jews, who were seen as a potent threat to Arabs.

He must have "sought guidance" on the subject and in his contemplations of the problem was noticed by Allah who sent an angel to dictate the Koran. The rest is history, bloody history, as they say.

I don't think Islam is more violent than any other religion, but its teachings are very prescriptive and specific and appear to give official religious approval of physical violence in certain situations.

The situation is probably analogous to American gun law. America is a violent society in which large numbers of violent crimes are committed, including many gun related murders. But guns don't kill people. People kill people. But up here in Canada we have people too, and they don't kill people at the rate they do in America. Our gun laws are much more restrictive.

Maybe Islam is the America of religions. All religions can be violent, but Islam gives the offical OK to be violent under certain circumstances in the Koran itself. Maybe that makes all the difference.

My two cents worth.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by TheLaughingGod
There seems to be exist some kind of "feel sorry for" scale in western society today, women, immigrants, homosexuals and all kinds of minorities are beyond critique, everything to supplant a homogeneous and well functioning society with groups of minorities harping for their piece of the pie, all the while disintegrating the family unit and giving government more control in our lives.


I'm sorry. You seem to have developed the misconception that I'm a fellow conservative. I'm not. The "family unit," can be a positive thing, but like so many other things, is entirely vulnerable to abuse, in any number of different ways.

The extent to which I agree with you here, is in the sense that I think the Left is basically dominated by minorities who are attempting to manipulate compassionate tendencies, into allowing them to create self-aggrandising situations for themselves. The gay and feminist movements are the two most guilty parties here. If we could get either (or preferably both) of them to sit down and shut the %^&# up for five minutes, then we might actually be able to get something genuinely useful done.

In my case, being Left-oriented means that I think it's wrong not to care at all about other people. That doesn't, however, mean that I am a wilfully unintelligent, naive, codependent, hysterically emotive enabler who thinks anyone who wants anything should automatically get it.


Before there was racism and misogynist views.. nowadays there's immigrant gangs roaming the streets, the rape statistics are through the roof, the crime rate is through the roof, young men and woman are confused about their gender, roles are being reversed, based on nothing but pseudoscientific ideas about gender neutrality, the idea that gender is nothing more than a social construct is being taught and encouraged by governments.


I don't believe that the Victorian era was a Golden Age, I'm sorry. People then were just as generally screwed in the head as they are now; the only real difference is that nobody admitted it.

Yes, feminism and homosexuality both need to be put back in their box to a certain extent, as mentioned. That doesn't mean, however, that I don't think they should go back to the condition they were in during that period. It simply means that I don't want them completely running the place. As far as I'm concerned, gender is neurologically and biochemically based. It isn't neutral at all; and to anyone who thinks it is, all I can say is that anyone who willingly listens to mainstream (read: feminist/gay/atheist/government controlled) science, deserves exactly what they are very predictably going to get.



I'm not harping on certain ethnicities here, I'm blaming culture.. I blame Islam, I blame our governments for their apologist stance, I blame liberal oikophobes for their constant appeasement,


I understand that being conservative generally also means being both white supremacist and a male chauvanist, and also thinking that both of those stances are actually a good thing. I don't agree, for two reasons.

a] As far as I'm concerned, the Anglo-Celtic (English, Irish, Scots) and Germanic ethnic groups, are the two most horrifically violent within humanity as a whole, with the Jews not trailing all that far behind; and I say that as a member of said ethnic group myself. This is not only supported by global history, but personal experience; I've known members of various other ethnic groups, but the only ones I've ever personally experienced violence from, are the two already mentioned.

Yes, the Arabs can be animals, but I don't care how many Allahu Akbars are screamed, or how often they impersonate Minecraft's Creepers at foreign embassies or tourist spots, the Arabs still don't hold a candle to Whitey. As far as history is concerned, again, the only racism that any Caucasian individual has the right to feel, is self-directed.

b] I am intimately acquainted with pathological male chauvanism; I know exactly where it leads. Hence, as a male myself, I have no interest in it whatsoever. That does not mean that I am going to submit to the rule of seperatist lesbians either, mind you; but both my father and George W. Bush taught me that the strict father is to be rejected with equal vehemence.


Here's the facts:

www.faithfreedom.org...

On average 53% wants to stone people who commit adultery.
On average 49% wants whippings / cutting off of hands for theft or robbery.
On average 48% wants to kill people for leaving Islam.

Stop spreading the lie that most muslims are moderate.. they're very extreme, in very large numbers.
They're still medieval.....


I admit I didn't know that. Although I will also say, that if you advocate chauvanism of either gender, you're not all that far from being medieval yourself.



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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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The only way to communicate with fools is to stoop to their level.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by petrus4

I'm trying not to, but it is honestly difficult to avoid wishing that Islam simply did not exist, to be honest. I can't help but feel as though the world would be much more peaceful, and a much better place in general, without it.



How bout we get rid of all religions?

If that were to happen, people would be F-ing in the streets.

it would be glorious.


What a world.


I think there is sufficient conjecture that their have been several advanced civilizations in the past (Romans, Minoan's, etc.) that were able to exist for several hundred years without having their societies based solely on religion before succumbing to natural disaster.
God's were defiantly a part of their societies, but they were not the foundations like in many eastern countries (Islam).
We could do without any of these organized religions. Let "man" worship on their own, in private, and let's not make laws that effect that particular society based on religious.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

I don't bother reading religious texts and bitching about them, you ignorant dick sucking faggot



Your previous posts have made it clear that you have not read the Koran.

Why attack so aggressively then when you are expressing an opinion based not on scholarship but rather ignorance?



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by milominderbinder

Yes. As opposed to those peace-loving Christians, right?



Both the majority of Muslims and the majority of Christians were and are peace loving people.

However, both the Muslim faith and the Christian faith have historically proven themselves to be imperialistically expansionist.

Christianity today however, militarily, is a spent force.

Islam on the other hand still has a virulent military wing. For instance,


At least 70 Germans have undergone paramilitary training in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and about a third have returned to Germany.

The Telegraph



British Muslims fighting alongside Taliban, commanders claim

UK soldiers in Afghanistan have killed British Muslims fighting alongside the Taliban, commanders claim.

The Telegraph



Taliban: 'Britain is our greatest source of funding'

The Telegraph



British Muslims recruited to fight for 'al-Qaeda' in Somalia

Up to 50 British “volunteers”, including white Christian converts and British-Somali men, have been recruited to fight for Al Shabaab, the al-Qaeda inspired Somali terrorist group.

Intelligence experts believe the British volunteers form the core of an international force of foreign fighters drawn from the United States, Canada, Europe and East Africa.

Th e Telegraph


According to the last article, a number of American Muslims are fighting for al-Qaeda in Somalia.






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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
reply to post by nenothtu
 


The only way to communicate with fools is to stoop to their level.


You seem to be thinking I was speaking to you - I was not. The post was addressed to your opponent asking mercy for YOU in your supreme ignorance. That's why his name was above yours with "reply to" between them.

You amuse me, and I'd hate to see that end.

If you bother to acutually follow the flow of that conversation, it turns out that what you have said here is that he is having to stoop to your intellectual level in order to drive a thought into your head. In that, it may be that I can agree with you for once.

It just so happen that I AM one of those ignorant rednecks to which you refer, and this particular "dumber than rocks" hillbilly is thoroughly prepared to match wits with you at any point you wish. In other words, I'm ready to rock whenever you are.




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posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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You have to be about 16 or 17. You know what, a bunch of us from the 60's tried that and all it did was screw up our lives.

Not to speak of the fact that there are entire villages in Africa where they tried the same thing and now there is no one in those villages older than 30 and younger than seventy. The villages are either very young or very old, everybody else [EVERYBODY ELSE] is dead.

It doesn't work sport!



posted on Mar, 2 2012 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by milominderbinder

Yes. As opposed to those peace-loving Christians, right?



Both the majority of Muslims and the majority of Christians were and are peace loving people.

However, both the Muslim faith and the Christian faith have historically proven themselves to be imperialistically expansionist.

Christianity today however, militarily, is a spent force.

Islam on the other hand still has a virulent military wing.


The situation in the Middle East is the greatest argument for separation of Church and State that anyone could ever put forth.

Imagine if the Westboro Baptist Church ever managed to gather themselves together a militia........



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